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Miley Cyrus tour bus overturns in Va., killing 1
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/20/09 | Dena Potter - ap

Posted on 11/20/2009 12:55:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge

DINWIDDIE, Va. – The driver of a Miley Cyrus tour bus was killed Friday when the bus overturned, but the 16-year-old "Hannah Montana" star wasn't on board, Virginia State Police said.

Sgt. Thomas Molnar said the bus ran off the left side of Interstate 85, struck an embankment and overturned. The accident occurred around 8:15 a.m. in Dinwiddie County, about 40 miles south of Richmond. Speed and weather weren't considered factors.

The driver, William G. Douglas, 53, of Austin, Texas, died at the scene, police said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: mileycyrus; overturns; tourbus; virginia
One of nine members of Cyrus' production crew who were riding in the bus was injured and treated at a local hospital.
1 posted on 11/20/2009 12:56:01 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

long 2 lanes and just guardrails and trees on either side of this stretch of road. No place to pull over for a very long stretch.


2 posted on 11/20/2009 1:06:43 PM PST by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well as long as Hannah Montana wasn’t onboard i guess it’s OK then.


3 posted on 11/20/2009 1:17:06 PM PST by mowowie
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To: frithguild; All
This excerpt from the article is a good clue to what happened:

About two dozen members of the tour, some still wearing pajama bottoms, began transferring backpacks and laptops from the wrecked bus into two other buses parked outside a restaurant. They declined to speak to reporters.

The accident apparently happened at 0815. I looks to me like this driver was driving through the night with his passengers and fell asleep at the wheel, causing the accident. A similar accident happened to a church bus near Memphis, TN a few years ago with many fatalities.

I've had a few incidents in my life when I've almost fallen asleep at the wheel. Although none resulted in an accident, I've learned from those experiences how easily any could have. I deal with this in three ways: 1) I try not to drive under circumstances where it looks like I might fall asleep at the wheel, 2) I keep a bottle of NoDoz in my glove compartment and take a couple of tablets when I think I might have occasion to fall asleep at the wheel and, more important, 3) if I feel it happening, I get off the road at the safest possible point, park, pull the keys out of the ignition, push my seat back, and get the sleep I need before getting back on the road.

4 posted on 11/20/2009 1:21:25 PM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper
3) if I feel it happening, I get off the road at the safest possible point, park, pull the keys out of the ignition, push my seat back, and get the sleep I need before getting back on the road.

this is what i've done a couple of times... i once tried to force myself to stay awake as i was driving from San Francisco to the South Bay on Hwy. 101--it's only an hour away... i was hallucinating... started seeing all kinds of weird stuff on the sides of the road... my friend noticed and took over the driving... one other time i was coming home from Santa Cruz on Hwy. 17... again, i tried forcing myself to keep my eyes open... and again i began hallucinating about where i was... pulled over at a coffee shop... now i just automatically pull over... has not happened much in the last twenty years... i try to make sure i get enough sleep if have to drive...

5 posted on 11/20/2009 1:30:50 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: libstripper

Years ago I worked for a well known touring rock band. We had a bus driver who was notorious for nodding out at the wheel. I had to keep a volunteer up front to watch him until I could get a replacement driver flown in. Pretty scary stuff. When you get in your bunk for sleep you are at the mercy of the driver. Back then almost all drove double shifts. There were no log books and no enforceble sanctions.


6 posted on 11/20/2009 1:31:15 PM PST by mono
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To: libstripper; Corin Stormhands
The accident apparently happened at 0815. I looks to me like this driver was driving through the night with his passengers and fell asleep at the wheel, causing the accident. A similar accident happened to a church bus near Memphis, TN a few years ago with many fatalities.

Too bad Tim Kaine closed the rest areas. Maybe the driver could have gotten a nap.

7 posted on 11/20/2009 1:33:55 PM PST by nina0113
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To: latina4dubya; mono

That’s why I took the all night bus from TN to DC and back for Michelle Blackmun’s demonstration a couple of weeks ago. The charter company did a good job; they had a night driver and a day driver.

Latina, as far as halucinating is concerned, I’ve got an even better sleep deprivation story. In 1981, while I was living in Milwaukee, WI, I participated in a 158 mile sailing race that was a round trip from Muskegon, MI to Racine, WI and back across Lake Michigan. I made a navigation error on the way back that caused me to be out a total of 41 hours on NODoz for two nights. On the second night out the wind died, there was a fog, and, although I knew it wasn’t true, I absolutely believed I was sailing down an alley some place in Chicago, where I was born. Single handed sailors often have experiences like that.


8 posted on 11/20/2009 1:40:56 PM PST by libstripper
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To: nina0113

True. However, there’s always my emergency solution: get off any where ther’s a large, lighted parking lot and use it. A sleep deprivation situation like that is definitely a matter of life and eath.


9 posted on 11/20/2009 1:44:00 PM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Too many stories to tell! Once though, was smart enough to pull over for a few minutes. Driving two vehicles and radioed over to the other one that I needed to stop and rest. He pulled alongside me and I slept for a bit.

He wakes me up over the radio: “Hey - wakeup!”

I jerk my head up and slam on the brakes. Looking around with my heart in my stomach - oh, that’s right - I had pulled over!


10 posted on 11/20/2009 1:47:45 PM PST by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: 21twelve

i was sleeping in my car once during a lunch break at work. i must have been dreaming about driving or something because i woke up gasping for air, grabbed the wheel and slammed on the brakes. my heart was pounding!


11 posted on 11/20/2009 1:51:38 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: 21twelve

That’s why I always pull the keys out of the ignition when I pull over for some uplanned sleep. I’m afraid that if I leave them in the ignition, I might have some half dream that would cause me to half awake, start the vehicle, put in in gear and have a collison while I was mostly asleep.


12 posted on 11/20/2009 1:52:10 PM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

I’ve dozed off at the wheel only once years ago. Hubby was asleep and I was very sleepy. I turned on the radio for noise...no good. I rolled down the window for fresh air, but my eyes were practically crossing from trying to keep them open.

I was on a straight stretch outside Amarillo and I wanted to make it there before I stopped. One minute I was awake and driving on my side of the road. The next I was dozing and heading for the ditch on the other side of the road. I’m just thankful that I woke up before I reached it, and that there was no other traffic at that particular time at that time of the morning.

It scared me so badly that it woke me up. I couldn’t have gone to sleep for a while, even if I’d wanted to sleep!


13 posted on 11/20/2009 1:54:14 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: NormsRevenge

She or her long legged pappy were not on board is my first guess.


14 posted on 11/20/2009 1:54:42 PM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Prayers up for the driver and his family and friends, and for the injured.


15 posted on 11/20/2009 1:58:53 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: mono
Years ago I worked for a well known touring rock band.

First thing that came to my mind was Cliff Burton.

16 posted on 11/20/2009 2:00:18 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: LucyJo

That nearly parallels an experience I had. One moment I’m driving down a straight, featureless I-10 in NM heading toward El Paso, next thing I know I get jostled awake because the car is tilted in an unnatural way and heading into the median. Good thing for me the stretch of median just had some low scrub brush. A few miles earlier the median had had small trees and cactus growing.

I was wired awake after that experience.


17 posted on 11/20/2009 2:12:27 PM PST by Crolis ("Nemo me impune lacessit!" - "No one provokes me with impunity!")
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To: libstripper

That’s scary stuff! Glad you didn’t get hurt. Stay Safe! Anyone, if able should get tested for sleep apnea if they fall asleep at the wheel randomly. (If the result of long trips-—please take safety precautions)


18 posted on 11/20/2009 2:20:15 PM PST by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Crolis

I was thinking that I wouldn’t have wanted to experience that while driving anything larger than the personal vehicle that I was driving, and certainly not being responsible for the lives of a number of other people as well.

It gives you pause for thought that I could have been responsible for killing my husband, or myself, or both.

I think there is something to what you said about “featureless”. The monotony is almost hypnotic, especially when there is no traffic to cause distraction. If you are tired and sleepy anyway, you can fall asleep before you know it.


19 posted on 11/20/2009 2:33:03 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: NormsRevenge

I would have expected this to happen to a Willie Nelson tour bus long before a Miley Cyrus one.


20 posted on 11/20/2009 2:34:51 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: LucyJo
"Hubby was asleep and I was very sleepy. I turned on the radio for noise...no good. I rolled down the window for fresh air, but my eyes were practically crossing from trying to keep them open.

I was alone in the car driving back from the airport in the dark early am when that happened to me. I was on the Freeway going 70 mph and literally did everything I could to stay awake.

I couldn't pull off on the isolated freeway...Thank God I made it home. I was terrified.

sw

21 posted on 11/20/2009 2:42:06 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dinwiddie is the place where Sheridan forced Pickett out of position and was the opening battle for the end of the siege of Richmond which fell a few days later.

Not that this relates to Mily Cyrus in any way, just a bit of useless trivia.


22 posted on 11/20/2009 2:50:46 PM PST by Rebelbase (End Jihad: Weaponize Pork.)
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To: libstripper

What about slugging Mountain Dew? I had a glass of that once and I didn’t sleep for half the night. Nearly made me crazy.


23 posted on 11/20/2009 2:52:38 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: LucyJo

True. Straight, featureless road. No traffic, that low humming of the tires on the pavement, early morning (6-7am). Passenger sleeping next to you.

I tried everything. Music, rolling down the windows, even eating snacks. It happened so fast.

To this day I am extra cautious when it comes to long drives. I will trade endurance for safety and call it quits much earlier now.

On a related note, the new Mercedes E-class has a feature where the car will sense your driving style and develop a baseline. If you start to drift in your lane, or deviate from that when you get tired, the car will warn you and light up a little icon on the dash (it’s a coffee cup) suggesting you pull over and get some rest/refreshment.


24 posted on 11/20/2009 2:58:01 PM PST by Crolis ("Nemo me impune lacessit!" - "No one provokes me with impunity!")
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To: spectre

I know what you mean. I had even tried slapping my face.
But, seeing the vehicle heading for the ditch surely got my attention.


25 posted on 11/20/2009 3:03:15 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: Crolis
Passenger sleeping next to you is ASKING for it.

Something about someone else asleep just relaxes you and makes you sleepy. Like how a yawn is contagious.

Wake them up and say “If the thought of me falling asleep behind the wheel doesn't keep you awake, why should it keep me awake?”

Let them ponder that one awhile.

26 posted on 11/20/2009 3:06:56 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: NormsRevenge
But Michael Jackson is still dead, right?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

27 posted on 11/20/2009 3:15:52 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Crolis

Same here. Those extra few miles can be made up, if need be, after I’ve rested.

That is a good feature on the Mercedes E; but, I knew long before it happened that I needed to rest. I was just determined to make it into Amarillo before I did. Thankfully, I’m not quite so stubborn (ignorant) anymore when it comes to taking safety precautions.


28 posted on 11/20/2009 3:16:39 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: Niuhuru

If it works for you. For a drive I shouldn’t take, I’ll slug seveal NoDoz down with a Mountain Dew.

I have another funny sailing story from my days in Milwaukee. On the way back from northern Lake Michigan one summer I found I had to leave my boat for a week in
Sheboygan, about 50 miles north of Milwaukee. The next weekend I took the bus up to Sheboygan, had dinner at the Sheboygan Yacht Club, and decided to take my boat down to Milwaukee that night. To stay awake I took three NoDoz. Then I set out down the Sheboyban River only to discover that an essenmtial drawbridge was closed, blocking me from getting out onto the lake. I returned to the YC and hopelessly tried to get even a little sleep that night before 0600 the next morning when the bridge would open. BUMMER!!


29 posted on 11/20/2009 4:11:11 PM PST by libstripper
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To: nina0113

You know, I get your point.

But there are still places on I-85 where the driver could have stopped. Plus, since this was a tour bus, it’s likely they were driving to reach another event.


30 posted on 11/20/2009 10:13:29 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Nanowrimo count: 35,122)
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