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Vietnam veteran robbed, killed on his way to deposit VFW money
chicago tribune ^ | November 20, 2009 | Jeremy Gorner and Wendy Normandy

Posted on 11/21/2009 7:07:12 AM PST by KeyLargo

Vietnam veteran robbed, killed on his way to deposit VFW money

William Burtner had helped raise money for WWII vets' trip to Washington

Army veteran William Burtner survived Vietnam and dedicated his life to helping other veterans.

On Monday, Burtner was about to enter a bank in Midlothian to deposit money that the south suburb's Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 2580 had raised during a benefit.

He never made it inside.

Burtner, 65, was assaulted and robbed outside the bank. He died Wednesday night in Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn.

An autopsy Thursday concluded Burtner died of hypertensive cardiovascular disease and fractured ribs from the assault, the Cook County medical examiner's office said. It ruled the death a homicide.

Burtner was about to deposit proceeds from a VFW benefit last weekend for Chicago area World War II veterans so they could visit a war memorial in Washington, said Katherine Foss, a family friend...........

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: honorflights; illinois; murder; obamasupporters; obamavoters; robbery; veterans; vfw

VFW IL Post 2580 Veterans of Foreign Wars Department Illinois Midlothian Memorial Post

Bill Burtner, a 65-year-old Southwest Side resident and commander of Midlothian VFW Post 2580, died Wednesday after being beaten and robbed on Monday.

1 posted on 11/21/2009 7:07:14 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Jerry Brown, 27, of the 1100 block of West 104th Place in Chicago, has been charged with robbery in connection with the incident and may face more serious charges now that the victim has died, police said. They said a second man remains at large.

Brown was arrested shortly after he and another man fled from a Ford Mustang, believed to be the getaway vehicle, after it crashed not far from the bank, police said.

November 18, 2009 (Midlothian, Ill.) (WLS) — The head of the VFW in southwest suburban Midlothian has died from injuries suffered in a robbery.

Bill Burtner, 65, was attacked outside of a bank on Monday. Police are still looking for one of the suspects.

Burtner was a retired postal worker but not finished working. Though he had cancer, friends said he continually helped others.

“Whatever Bill did, he did it to make the community better, and not just for the veterans but he did work for the community,” said Ruben Pesina.

Burtner was the commander of VFW Post 25-80 in Midlothian. He led the post about seven years.

“No job was beneath him...he would mop the floor, if he had to, or go out and talk to the parents of soldiers, if he needed to, it didn’t matter. He was always there for him,” said George Doeden, VFW Friend.

On Saturday, the post raised more than $2,000 to help World War II Vets visit D.C.

Monday morning, relatives say Burtner came to this Midlothian bank to deposit the money when a robber attacked him from behind.

The medical examiner says Burtner’s ribs were broken, triggering heart complications. He died Wednesday night.

One suspect, 27-year-old Jerry L. Brown, of Chicago, is in custody and now facing robbery charges.

Midlothian Police say this is still an open investigation and they are still looking for a second suspect.

“I think justice has to be served,” said Pesina.

Back at the post, the sign outside is a tribute to Burtner - it reads “You will be missed.”

“Right now the whole post is hurting but we will have some reorganizing to do, pick up and keep Bill’s spirit alive,” said Doeden.

Video report:

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7129009


2 posted on 11/21/2009 7:12:30 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Give me a torch and knife and I’ll make these goblins wish they had never even considered hurting this man.

It is past time for all men in America to arm themselves. Especially the elderly.


3 posted on 11/21/2009 7:15:59 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

Given this is Chicago, no doubt they will arrive at the conclusion that the vet committed suicide.


4 posted on 11/21/2009 7:19:06 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Spike Knotts

Veteran robbed and killed
(01:45) 11/20/2009 at 03:19am

News video:

http://www.wgntv.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=24596c04-728c-4fda-87a8-35eb7dd75530&src=front


5 posted on 11/21/2009 7:20:50 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Spike Knotts
It is past time for all men in America to arm themselves. Especially the elderly.

Yup! As you speak! The BS is over.

6 posted on 11/21/2009 7:21:02 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Carley

More like he taunted the ‘disadvantaged youths’ with his obvious wealth and prosperity...god rest his soul...


7 posted on 11/21/2009 7:28:00 AM PST by databoss (Netanyahu will play Obama like a fiddle....)
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To: KeyLargo
A hero's life snuffed out for $2000 by some low-life piece of human scum who will probably have more compassion shown to him by a jury than he showed to Mr. Burtner.

Today, I plan on sending a donation to the VFW post to try to help make up for the money that was stolen so the families can still make the trip that Mr. Burtner was working to see come to fruition.

Thank you for your service Mr. Burtner. May you rest in peace.

8 posted on 11/21/2009 7:36:55 AM PST by American Infidel (It's pronounced 'ASK' not 'AXE'. It's a 3 letter word. How difficult can it be?)
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To: KeyLargo
Obvious hate crime, victim was a white elderly veteran and the perp was a younger black with a criminal record. Paging Rev. Jesse to the white courtesy phone please.

Sarcasm aside, thanks to all vets for their service and may Bill be reunited with his buddies who have gone on ahead. God Bless and rest in honored glory!

9 posted on 11/21/2009 7:38:39 AM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: SES1066
Paging Rev. Jesse to the white courtesy phone please.

Oops, make that the dark tan courtesy phone.

10 posted on 11/21/2009 7:40:59 AM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: databoss

Wish there was a way to donate to that VFW post so the vets could get their trip.


11 posted on 11/21/2009 7:42:05 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: KeyLargo

The ABC News report finally showed a picture of Jerry L. Brown, one of the perps in the attack.

Gee. What a surprise.

Rest in peace, Cmdr. Burtner. Your ongoing service to our country and your community was rewarded from seeds planted in the mid 1960s, when the new Great Society was going end poverty and related urban crime like this.

And now we reap a bitter harvest, and watch good men, like Bill Burtner, die. Is this the America we want?

And where are the leftie social engineers, wiping the blood from their hands and apologizing for dragging this country down the rat hole?

I’m not holding my breath.


12 posted on 11/21/2009 7:42:19 AM PST by Tigerized (Exactly what part of "shall not be infringed" DON'T you understand?!)
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To: Carley

I think it is time to head for the jail, bring a rope and demand instant justice. I would think a band of vets should be conversant with using force to reach their goal if needed.

I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore should be their cry. I think that happens a few times nationally and there would be an end to this type crap.

For the record, my great uncle who received a silver star for service near Bastogne was killed in a mugging in the 80s. They never found the scum.


13 posted on 11/21/2009 7:47:26 AM PST by Mouton
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To: American Infidel

That is a fantastic idea. Let’s see if we can get it rolling.

If anyone reading this has any pull with the VFW...it would be awesome if they could set up a specific donation link for the members of VFW.

I just sent the following email to Mr. Jerry Newberry, who is listed as the national hq contact. If anyone has a better contact or can do it themselves, please do so. I’m in for the first 100 bucks, and I wish I could do more.

“Sir,

It is with great sadness that I read of the robbery and murder of the Commander of VFW post 25-80, Mr. Bill Burtner.

The news stories I have read mention that the post lost the 2,000 dollars they had raised to help WWII Vets visit Washington D.C. It makes no mention of whether the money was recovered.

I read through the VFW’s main site, and found your donation page. However, I was wondering if it was possible to donate directly to 25-80, so that the Illinois Vets may continue their trip. If you were to place a link to donate straight to them on your main site, I have little doubt that the good citizens of America would quickly replace what was so wrongly taken from them. I personally will donate the first $100 towards their trip. I would be happy to do what little I could to attract attention to their cause.

Please let me know what you think of this matter.”

Anyone who would like to donate, please email them and let them know you’d like to replace the lost money for the Vet’s D.C. trip. Don’t let these thugs steal their Commander AND their trip. Our WWII vets have precious little time left.


14 posted on 11/21/2009 7:53:22 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

Oops...my second sentence should read...

“...would be awesome if they could set up a specific donation link for the members of VFW Post 25-80.”

Sorry about that.


15 posted on 11/21/2009 7:54:34 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Mouton

Oh, there is a sad lack of humanity in these predators.

I want to scream when I hear the root causes excuse for these savage crimes.

So sorry for your loss. I am sure it still hurts.


16 posted on 11/21/2009 8:09:33 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: KeyLargo

Some people walk tall and give their whole lives, others crawl in the their own filth just take. Even in death he shone brighter then those who took him down.


17 posted on 11/21/2009 8:26:08 AM PST by dog breath
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To: Spike Knotts
I literally just came back from dropping a check in the mail.

The snail mail address is:

Post 2580 Midlothian Memorial Post
14817 S Pulaski Rd
Midlothian, IL 60445
United States

18 posted on 11/21/2009 8:44:50 AM PST by American Infidel (It's pronounced 'ASK' not 'AXE'. It's a 3 letter word. How difficult can it be?)
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To: dog breath

God bless this vet’s family.
There has GOT to be a reckoning at some point soon for the murderous animals who did this. This evil has to be stopped.

P.S.

Please prepare your families for the coming unrest. It’s only going to take one natural disaster, terrorist attack or sun flare for the whole country to be plunged into anarchy. The big guy gave us Katrina as a warning bell to prepare.


19 posted on 11/21/2009 8:51:11 AM PST by Rocketwolf68 (Bring back the crusades)
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To: Tigerized

Was it the former California governor?

/sarc

They had scum like this kid 100 years ago—not as many due to them fearing society’s retribution if they did this stuff.

They were a lot smarter about handling stuff like this to deter the other depraved imbecilic trash who might want to try it.


20 posted on 11/21/2009 9:36:06 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland ("See what you made me do?" Major Malik Hasan)
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To: American Infidel

Thank you very much.


21 posted on 11/21/2009 3:44:09 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

Torch and knife? Nah, tie ‘em to a car and drag ‘em. This veteran served his country in a time of war and he’s beaten to death in the street by two pieces of human tissue whose fathers should have left them as a stains on the bed-sheet. God Bless his soul.


22 posted on 11/21/2009 4:19:51 PM PST by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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To: KeyLargo

RIP...


23 posted on 11/24/2009 8:11:41 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Carley

More black-on-white crime. It’s an epidemic in this country. This guy was 65, he had cancer and had been undergoing chemo, so he was no doubt in a weakened state. These thugs probably could have just taken the money box from him and ran, but they had to give him a beat-down. We see this over and over and over again. We just saw another conviction for it in the Anne Pressly case in Little Rock. Blacks are not satisfied to rob and rape anymore. Nearly all black-on-white crime involves a horrific beat-down. There was a case the other day of a black guy beating down a 101 yr. old white woman in a purse-snatch robbery.

Here’s video on this VFW case: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7129009

There is a media black-out on these stories, so they’re hard to find or else it’s hard to find out the race of the perpetrator without doing some research. They’re happening in multiple cities and towns every day.


24 posted on 11/24/2009 8:30:52 PM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: Rocketwolf68

It’s gotten worse since zero was elected. Blacks think they’re in charge now and that they have carte blanche to do whatever they want to whites.

The only way to stop these lower-than-animals is to shoot them dead. They are getting worse, not better. The media is their accomplice, as is the defense bar and a huge slew of NGOs and politicians.


25 posted on 11/24/2009 8:39:29 PM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
...money that the south suburb's Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 2580 had raised during a benefit... for Chicago area World War II veterans so they could visit a war memorial in Washington...
The suspects -- probably wearing Obama t-shirts -- crashed the car they'd used for the alleged getaway.
26 posted on 11/24/2009 8:43:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SES1066
Obvious hate crime, victim was a white elderly veteran and the perp was a younger black with a criminal record.

But it is reparations for social justice (/sarcasm)

27 posted on 11/24/2009 8:47:34 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (The DemocRat Party = Enemies of Freedom.)
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To: KeyLargo

Black guy, no doubt. They think they can do anything and get away with it not that Obongo the half black usurper is squatting in the WH.


28 posted on 11/24/2009 9:02:22 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: KeyLargo

Chicago is a cesspool.


29 posted on 11/24/2009 9:02:47 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SunkenCiv

30 posted on 11/24/2009 9:09:35 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: bustinchops

I think that there is something to that theory. Obama told his “followers” to “get-in-their-face”.

I have heard plenty of quotes in various media that, “We’re in charge now”.


31 posted on 11/24/2009 10:30:16 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: KeyLargo

Time for the “Rainbow Brigade” in Chicago to condemn this and donate some of their “shakedown” money to the VFW and this man’s family for services.


32 posted on 11/24/2009 10:31:59 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: KeyLargo

May the Lord’s Vengeance fall upon those murderers.


33 posted on 11/24/2009 10:51:39 PM PST by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!!)
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To: machogirl
You mean you haven't seen these t-shirts being paraded around:?

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34 posted on 11/24/2009 11:39:50 PM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: machogirl

Yeah. Instead of seeing the election of a black (half black, really) man as a the unifying event that whites saw it as, blacks have taken the same low road they’ve traveled as a group for the last forty years. They decided that it was a statement of racial superiority, even though the dumbest black voter in this country cannot avoid the truth that whites elected zero, not blacks, because there aren’t enough of them to overcome the white vote should whites decide to vote as a racial bloc the way that blacks do.

This last year has been a moment in time that will never come again, and zero blew it. Had he reached for excellence and equality, celebrated America, taken a positive view instead of choosing corruption and cynicism, he would be a great man. Instead, he has shown the evil face of corruption, deceit, racism, and broad, historically anti-American policies, ideologies and a framework for utter destruction of this country as we know it and as it was founded.

He is a menace to society in every respect, yet blacks celebrate him because of his skin color and only his skin color. Like other black pols, he used them for their race-based votes and then did nothing for them or anybody else except the unions and related commie subversives who are now running rampant throughout the country.


35 posted on 11/25/2009 3:16:53 AM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: streetpreacher

nope


36 posted on 11/25/2009 10:09:11 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: bustinchops

al sharpton is right on one point. barry has never had the segregated-black experience. he has lived a privileged life and is trying, like many of his generation, the older generation and the younger generation, to act as if it is still 1968.

i’m jobless, not by desire. where is my “white privilege”?

phooey!


37 posted on 11/25/2009 10:19:31 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: SES1066
Paging Rev. Jesse to the white courtesy phone please.

You silly...don't you know that he would never answer a "white" courtesy phone....

38 posted on 11/25/2009 10:33:18 AM PST by Mopp4
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To: Mopp4
You silly...don't you know that he would never answer a "white" courtesy phone....

Ah, but grasshopper, you didn't read the very next message (#10) where I corrected it my own self to "dark tan".

Paging Rev. Jesse to the white courtesy phone please.
Oops, make that the dark tan courtesy phone.

39 posted on 11/25/2009 10:51:07 AM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: SES1066
Ah, but grasshopper, you didn't read the very next message (#10) where I corrected it my own self to "dark tan"

LOL...allow me to stand corrected...you are wiser than first observed....

:-)

40 posted on 11/25/2009 11:35:57 AM PST by Mopp4
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