Skip to comments.Live Thread: Senate Debate and Cloture Vote on Motion to Proceed to Debate ObamaCare
Posted on 11/21/2009 9:43:50 AM PST by kristinn
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I'm off to buy more ammo...
Can Joe Lieberman stop this or is this a done deal..Also, is Blanche Lincoln on the take too or is she our last hope
They need the debate time so they can finalize any bribery and/or any blackmailing that’s going on...
Ever read 1984?
Sarah also tweeted these messages today:
Thot I’d stick w tour news on Twitter but can’t help digress: Call senators! Tell ‘em KILL THE BILL tonite;horrible govt healthcare takeover
Senate healthcare takeover debate begins in an hour. Pls call senators if u care about another 1/6th of our economy swallowed up by Big Govt
I wonder if any GOPers will break ranks now.
So, virtually, a vote to bring it to the floor for debate is a vote FOR the bill, as 97% of legislation brought to debate by cloture (60 votes) is passed.
The ones like Landrieu and Lincoln will propose amendments which will probably be voted down, and then they feel they have cover because they only voted for DEBATE.They may even vote against the final bill but since only 51 votes are needed then, they will get their cover while toeing the Dem party line. Everyone KNOWS 60 votes for debate virtually assures passage.
You said, “I cannot understand WHAT is the real payoff?”
The real payoff is votes, which equals political power. The Democrats are simply trying to transfer wealth form likely Republican voters to likely Democratic voters in order to buy votes. That is the endgame. All this socialism has nothing to do with good healthcare or the distribution of good healthcare. It’s vote buying, pure and simple. No other theory explains what is happening.
Carville knew what he was writing about. He knows what will happen if this passes. Illegals getting free health care, oh geez I wonder who they will vote for
WATCH IT LIVE ONLINE HERE
Cook County Zoning Board variance votes will have more suspense.
Ain’t modern technology great? We get to watch the sellout of the Constitution and limited government LIVE!
I am wondering if the Repubs hold together and Lieberman. Mitch McConnell supposedly knows Senate procedure and rules as well as Byrd. I hope the GOP has some tricks in their bag to stop this.
It should have been killed in the House. Newt and Dede sabotaging NY-23 took the fear out of the Dems and lost us a voted in the House. Burn in hell Newt.
The real payoff for the Dems is overwhelming power and they know if this passes they have it. This is NOT about health care, the Dems can give a rats behind about health care, his is about FULL GOVERNMENT CONTROL and if this passes they have it. This is what liberals have wanted for as far back as they can remember. They can taste the power, controlling health care, that is icing on the cake for them
"Healthcare" is neither a right, nor a privilege. It is a commodity. It is a business. It has costs, and hopes to make a profit, by design. The idea that insurance = healthcare is the way they have framed their arguments. Insurance is a contract for services.
The idea that you can pay for unlimited services with finite dollars is a dream. Insurance companies use actuarial tables to determine projected costs. They use actual costs based on annual payouts on policies to set the next years charges. If all of the people in the group get sick, the system cannot pay for them all. It collapses into bankruptcy.
Insurance is a unique product. In Florida, it pays to replace beach houses. In Louisiana, it pays for underwater homes. But, usually that "insurance" comes from the public trough. We all know who that "public" is...
Did Landrieu got a nose job?
Landrieu claims a point of personal privilege for an additional minute to respondg to her being caught out taking a legislative bribe for her cloture vote, blames it on Republican bloggers.
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