Posted on 11/21/2009 12:38:13 PM PST by rface
Well, it would seem that the AP is all for fair use … when it applies to them........No matter how you slice it, the AP copied Palin's book (without permission), distributed it (without permission) and now stands up to say it was all done under fair use..........
The Associated Press has essentially claimed there is no such thing as ‘fair use’ when it comes to quoting its articles or reprinting its headlines, but when the news organization scans an entire book, then fair use does indeed exist.
Bloggers and news aggregation sites such as Google News have felt the wrath of the Associated Press (AP) for some time now for quoting headlines from the news agency or any portion of its articles. The AP has gone so far as to suggest it would start billing bloggers per quoted word for anything pulled from its articles. While both headlines and small quotes from articles are well protected under the fair use doctrine in copyright law, the AP has essentially ignored the concept with its actions.
Well, it would seem that the AP is all for fair use … when it applies to them.
Talking Points Memo got a look at a weekly internal AP newsletter that details how two AP reporters managed to buy a copy of Sarah Palin’s book Going Rogue five days before its release date. The AP staff then ripped the book from its spine and set about scanning the book so that twelve reporters could share the copy and begin fact checking it.
The problem is not with the fact that the AP did this, the problem is with the fact that it is being so hypocritical. No matter how you slice it, the AP copied a book (without permission), distributed it (without permission) and now stands up to say it was all done under fair use. Unfortunatly the AP is technically correct on everything that is being said in regards to its use of the book, but, in the meantime, enemies have been made all across the blogosphere because we are not allowed to quote AP stories without possibly being charged for doing so.
Quoting has always been, and always will be, an essential part of journalism. So long as credit is given, it clearly falls under the fair use clause, and the AP would be well served to remember this. If it can claim fair use, why can’t the rest of us? The problem is that the AP would lose if a blogger was ever taken to court over not paying for using a quote, but does anyone really want to be the test case for that?
The AP needs to remember what is good for the goose is also good for the gander. Copy all the books you want in the name of journalism, but stop threatening bloggers for using quotes if it is also in the name of journalism.
something to chew on.....then spit out
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News wire feeling ire over Palin (Fact checking the AP)
NY Post ^ | November 20, 2009 | ANDY SOLTIS
Posted on Friday, November 20, 2009 6:30:10 AM by maggief
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AP wouldn’t say how many reporters are typically assigned to fact-check. The agency has roughly 3,000 employees for news gathering. Palin supporters said she was being unfairly targeted for scrutiny.
(AP’s director of media relations, Paul)Colford said AP didn’t fact-check Obama’s two books, for example, because “neither of those books were published when he was a major player on the scene.”
His latest book was published in 2006, as he was being mentioned as a possible presidential candidate.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138573,00.html
Obama shrugs off hype - Spending most of his time on issues close to home, senator-elect says talk of him running for president is ‘silly’
Telegraph Herald (Dubuque, IA) -
Monday, November 15, 2004
Author: ASSOCIATED PRESS
ROCKFORD (AP) - In the days since he was elected to the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama has chatted by phone with President Bush, had his picture in People magazine and appeared several times on national television.
He’s also been quizzed by 17-year-old Abby Longbottom, who joined her senator-elect in the stuffy basement of the Rockford Public Library to hear him talk about after-school programs.
Such is the life of the nation’s only black senator, who comes to Washington wearing the label of the Democratic Party’s great hope but promising only to work for the folks back home.
“I have not taken the hype too seriously,” Obama said after bidding farewell to his colleagues in the Illinois Legislature last week.
But the limelight continues to seek out Obama , who became a political star after a rousing address at the Democratic National Convention.
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“The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream (Hardcover)”
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* Hardcover: 384 pages * Publisher: Crown; 1St Edition edition (October 17, 2006)
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Obama ‘s fame renews interest in his book - A new edition of ‘ Dreams From My Father ‘ is due out Aug. 10
Telegraph Herald (Dubuque, IA) -
Tuesday, August 3, 2004
Author: ASSOCIATED PRESS
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. ( AP ) - The surge of interest in Barack Obama after his speech to the Democratic National Convention is spilling over to the book he wrote a decade ago, with a first edition copy going for $255 on eBay and pre-release orders for a new edition already putting it on best-seller lists.
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” Dreams From My Father : A Story of Race and Inheritance” is Obama ‘s memoir of growing up in Hawaii the son of a black man and white woman. He discusses trying to come to grips with his racial identity, a period of rebellion that included drug use, traveling to Africa and becoming a community activist in Chicago.
It was published in 1995 to strong reviews but only modest sales. Obama said 15,000 copies were printed, and he still has several boxes of them.
Crown Publishing Group, a division of Random House, decided to reissue the book after Obama won the Illinois Democratic Senate primary in March. Then he delivered a keynote address that thrilled Democrats, and interest in the book took off.
(snip)
This would a perfect time and example to force the issue. Its insane that people can’t quote from articles and its being done to stifle people at sites like FR. Other sites do it and nothing is said or done. jmo
AP = Always Pimping
I just cannot imagine how someone could rip a book apart at its spine.
Something is wrong with these people that could do such a think to a book.
It's time to buy Sarah's book.
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Shamelessness and hypocrisy are PREREQUISITES for qualification as a leftist or left wing organization. The AP is yet again showing us who they are.
Just finished it...wonderful book!
What do you make of the Barbara Walters, Sarah Palin interview that was to be on 20/20 last evening? Did you watch? It did not happen! ... instead they made a comment about the upcoming interview; and then showed a murder crime for about 46 minutes ... then they had a short segment of Sarah and Trig ... maybe 6 to 7 minutes, then they went to Janet Jackson and the up coming new record being released and then the scheduled interview with Janet regarding Michael's death to be broadcast in the next weeks on 20/20.
I was very amazed by the censoring (by not showing it) of most all of Sarah's interview. Obama has called her dangerous ... which might be the reason for the decision.
BIG MISTAKE. MO.
Yes, right on. One day, even the brain dead among us may learn that we really are at odds with our own government and they don’t intend to play nice-nice.
The Associated Press has essentially claimed there is no such thing as 'fair use' when it comes to quoting its articles or reprinting its headlines, but when the news organization scans an entire book, then fair use does indeed exist.
And about to become more so. They just recently laid off a lot of people and there’s been a change of leadership over there which has brought in individuals of less than sterling character who are happy to surrender any vestige of objectivity in favor of the politicians they like.
They savored every minute. Of that I have no doubt. If they could round up every single copy and incinerate them, they'd do it in a heartbeat.
I noticed that too. They had her interview in what was supposed to be 3 parts, Good Morning America, World News Tonight, Nightline, and then the FULL interview on 20/20 in case people missed the interviews throughout the week. Instead they showed some murder for FORTY SIX MINUTES..I was like “OH COME ON ARE U KIDDING ME” then they finally devote 9 minutes to Sarah’s interview and Babs said “You can watch the full interview on abc.com/palin” YES Obama and his cronies got to them, because the World News Tonight portion of the interview was about policy and Obama did not want people to hear Sarah bash his administration. Instead they showed some awesome clips of Trig and then got into Levi(WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT HIM, HIS 15 MINUTES OF FAME ARE OVER)
Also, my book NEVER came. I ordered it through amazon.com, it was supposed to come yesterday via usps(Didnt Obama say he will make health care like the post office) and it never came. Either someone stole it or it got lost. It never moved out of Las Vegas, just froze there. So yeah, USPS can’t even deliver a book on time. So now amazon will send me another book but this time from UPS with no charge.
Actually, this would be a copyright violation. You can’t copy whole books in this way. If they wanted 12 copies of the books you have to buy 12 copies. Otherwise schools could buy one copy of a textbook and copy it for every student.
>> The problem is not with the fact that the AP did this,
No, that is the problem. It’s a commercial product.
Sarah should be suing them. We should dismiss their demand FR not use AP stories and quote this as our excuse to do so.
Going Rogue in Columbus;Video Added , Palin Signs Everyone's Books
President Obama seeks $500,000 for ads to rebut Palin
McCain says he enjoyed Palin book (says Palin is a dear friend)
Palin was right about death panels; Doctors protest against ObamaCare
Going Rogue in Columbus;Video Added , Palin Signs Everyone's Books
President Obama seeks $500,000 for ads to rebut Palin
McCain says he enjoyed Palin book (says Palin is a dear friend)
Palin was right about death panels; Doctors protest against ObamaCare
When it comes to Palin, anything goes, lies, smears, hacking her email, photoshopping pictures. The AP (Anti-Palin) was at the forefront of the 0bama smear operation during the campaign, and has continued since. Matter of fact, the AP “reporter”, Rachel D’Oro, in Alaska had a very close working relationship with the anti-Palin bloggers up there, and got a lot of her stories directly from them.
Copying an entire book and distributing the copies of a whole book is “fair use”??
All the medias are strongly influenced to be pro liberal on all issues. The ownership and the major stockholders have bought themselves into having this position of power. SHAME!
We do no have a ‘free press’ at all anymore. Even Fox has the major stockholder being a SAUDI. We know they (SAUDI”S) are for all thing Islamic, etc.
God help us in our day, in Jesus name, amen.
Guys, if we choose Palin to run in 2010, we’re going to lose again...
Is it just me, or are others also continually unimpressed with Palin’s pathetic way of speaking?
She sounds like a caffeinated soccer mom trying to sound presidential.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU
Her propensity to speak in long, run-on sentences is highly distracting. She’s got the right ideas, but she’s the wrong messenger.
We need to put our energies into someone like Tom Rogers (Rep, Mich) instead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44NCvNDLfc
Is it just me, or are others also continually unimpressed with Palin’s pathetic way of speaking?
She sounds like a caffeinated soccer mom trying to sound presidential.
Don't worry putz. She'll run in 2012 and win.
I think you should run for President in 2010. Good luck!
Putz AlanGreenSpam for President 2010! Morons unite!
Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
You sound like a typical Rino, or a man that is afraid of women...I suggest you try the democrap party, you sound like someone that would like them....
No, I don't want Sarah in 2010, but I would be thrilled to death to have her win in 2012, and I consider that likely. I have an open mind, and I'd consider other true conservatives who mean what they say. I'm waiting to see them step up to the plate.
Putzy GreenSpam isn’t realizing that he is doing his nobody “candidate” (for 2010 I guess) a disfavor by trying to bite at Palin’s ankles.
AP = Absolute Peril
Levi’s 15 minutes of fame are about over. I read a story yesterday about how he went to the GQ Magazine party, NOT ONE person talked to him, no one looked at him, no one talked to him..he left after an hour with that Obama drone Tank Jones..I just started laughing. And he was on an American Airlines flight acting all stuck up and Jason Alexander was on the same flight and pretty much said that he was sick of his stupid ass
of note.
Please give me the link to that story, if possible. Thanks Sarah!
Sarah Palin = Ronald Reagan....they said he wasn’t prepared either....let’s see who get’s the last laugh.....
I also ordered a copy of Rogue from Amazon about a month ago. Paid for it a month ago and have received nothing.
I won’t be surprised if we both get flamed, but I agree. I like Sarah Palin, and was impressed with her in many respects. I also think she has a tremendous amount of gravitas(sp) and can do wonders for conservatives. I’m just not sure of the best way for her to influence the future elections. Somehow presidential candidate does not, at least to me, seem to be a good fit. Maybe more of a Rovian role.. with lipstick!
Her propensity to speak in long, run-on sentences is highly distracting. She’s got the right ideas, but she’s the wrong messenger.
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If she speaks in long, run-on sentences that are highly distracting why is it that so many people are touched by her message?
The average person that hears long run-on sentences that annoy them turns the speaker off and doesn’t hear the message. So how would you explain the many folks that say she speaks in a homey, forthright manner? Or the hundreds of thousands that turned out at her rallies because they felt she was speaking to them? Drill baby drill ~ hmmm, long? run-on?
You obviously don’t like her and that’s fine, we’re all entitled to our opinions, but if she truly was that pathetic a speaker she would NOT attract the crowds she does nor would thousands of people line up and sleep out over night to get a book signed. I didn’t see people doing that for Hildebeast’s book nor Pelosi’s.
Obviously you have a problem. No one is running for President in 2010.
The Left is simply skeered to death. They’re more irrational then ever.
They are reshipping mine, coming on Tuesday from UPS or FedEx(Havent gotten that info yet) I have a feeling mine was stolen. It froze in Las Vegas, isn’t Sarah going to be at some Reno, NV book signing. Probably someone saw it was a book inside the package, and took it to get it signed then resell it on Ebay(Its going for big bucks there) I have ordered from amazon.com many times, sometimes it would come USPS, never had any issue, but this book doesnt show up
Just try copying an entire book at the libary and see how far you get.
Harper Collins needs to sue AP’s butt from here to the next century.
LEVI is 19 years old and he is awed by the attention given to him. He believed the users that have been lying to him. VERY IMPORTANT LESSON indeed.
Hopefully he will get real. He is the father of Bristol’s son and Sarah’s grandchild. He isn’t the first to be used as a pawn for attacking and doing dirty work for them; not realizing how used he is being. Hollywood’s bright lights have sucked the good sense out of many that live there; especially those that have acting aspirations, or singing, or whatever he said. He does not have a direction ... just responded to the hype offered. MO
“The AP staff then ripped the book from its spine and set about scanning the book so that twelve reporters could share the copy and begin fact checking it.”
I don’t recall these eager beavers expending this much energy fact checking Obama or Gore. AP is an arm of the White House.
SB, my copy arrived from Amazon yesterday afternoon, so yours should be on the way, albeit very late.
Bub, you need to get over it! She has a classic western Middle America accent just like most of us, and just because she does not talk like William F. Buckley (as you undoubtedly prefer) does not mean that she will lose if she chooses to run.
So, you can take your Tom Rogers and head on out to Harvard if you wish.
Well, mine was supposed to come yesterday, it still says “in transit” from Las Vegas, hasn’t moved so something is not right. Either way I am getting another copy, already got things sorted out through amazon.com. I bet someone jacked it, saw it was a book(considering her book was all shipped on the same day) and someone figured they could get some cash out of it. I will never have anything delivered usps again. They are unreliable
I’m sorry, but any dark horse candidate from a very liberal state needs to be building their own resume NOW, not trying to get pulled along in the shadow of a candidate that already electrifies crowds. Whether or not Sarah Palin is deemed to be the best candidate in 2012, she is already showing that she at least has the ability to ignite the crowd - including both the base and independents (when they actually listen to her).
And in terms of her speech patterns, I would prefer a plain spoken person who fully believes what they say over an ultra-polished anyone.
It is time to replace the press.
It can be done.
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