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Christian Leaders Take Issue With Laws (misleading headline)
The Washington Post ^ | November 21, 2009 | Michelle Boorstein and Hamil R. Harris

Posted on 11/21/2009 1:26:06 PM PST by khnyny

Conservative Christian leaders unveiled a declaration Friday calling on Christians not to comply with rules and laws forcing them to accept abortion, same-sex marriage and other ideals that go against their religious doctrines.

The declaration urges Christians to practice civil disobedience to defend their convictions, even though some signers of the document backed away from the strong language.

The Catholic Archbishop of Washington, Donald W. Wuerl, was among the first signers of the Manhattan Declaration. He appeared at a news conference in the District on Friday to announce it, even as the Church was considering a city-proposed compromise on its same-sex marriage measure. Church officials say the bill, as it stands, would require faith groups, such as the church-run Catholic Charities, to extend benefits to married same-sex partners, an example of what the declaration's authors see as a violation of religious liberty law.

"We are Orthodox, Catholic, and evangelical Christians who have united at this hour to reaffirm fundamental truths about justice and the common good, and to call upon our fellow citizens, believers and non-believers alike, to join us in defending them," the declaration says. It lists the "fundamental truths" as the "sanctity of human life, the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife, and the rights of conscience and religious liberty."

The declaration is signed by more than 125 Orthodox, Catholic and evangelical leaders. Other leaders at the news conference at the National Press Club included Cardinal Justin Rigali, outgoing chairman of the U.S. Catholic bishops' Committee for Pro-Life Activities; Pentecostal leader Harry Jackson, pastor of a Beltsville church; and evangelical activist Tony Perkins. Other signers include evangelical leader and Watergate-era figure Chuck Colson and academics Timothy George and Robert George.

The leaders are urging the public to sign the online document.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
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It almost appears like our government is setting itself up as an enemy of people of faith.
1 posted on 11/21/2009 1:26:08 PM PST by khnyny
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To: khnyny

“It almost appears like our government is setting itself up as an enemy of people of faith.”

YOU MEAN IT ISN’T?


2 posted on 11/21/2009 1:28:03 PM PST by jessduntno (Obama is failing because he has no understanding of the American people, and may indeed loathe them.)
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To: khnyny

More than a dozen organizations have joined BVM in the Reform CCHD Now Coalition to boycott the donation appeal scheduled in parishes nationwide on November 22. The Catholic network EWTN hosted Gasper and Michael Hichborn of American Life League on November 13. “How are these groups getting through the cracks?” Hichborn posed. “We’re asking for complete and total reform of their grant-writing process.” Gasper added, “In the meantime, we have a coupon that people can print out” to include in place of a donation in this weekend’s collection plates.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/family/2373-catholic-bishops-fund-abortion


3 posted on 11/21/2009 1:28:56 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: khnyny

what strong language?

They call us nazi’s and murderers and everything else they can think of “civil disobediance” is “strong”??


4 posted on 11/21/2009 1:32:56 PM PST by GeronL
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To: FromLori

Thanks for the link.

Does anyone have the link for the petition mentioned in this article? Thanks.


5 posted on 11/21/2009 1:37:41 PM PST by khnyny (The problem is Obama didn't grow up watching "Hogan's Heroes" (American exceptionalism)
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To: GeronL
We're at the point where the ballot box has failed.

Our government, along with their leftist friends, seeks nothing less than our spiritual and moral destruction.

6 posted on 11/21/2009 1:38:08 PM PST by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: jessduntno

The comments following this article are just amazing. Calling for the prosecution of church leaders, the outlawing of religion, outright persecution. I shouldn’t be surprised, though. It’s not like we weren’t told it would happen, centuries ago.


7 posted on 11/21/2009 1:39:29 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: I Buried My Guns
Given the choice of paying taxes to kill babies or cheat on my taxes to afford more bullets, I think cheating on taxes is preferable.

Besides all the abortionists are rich as croesus ~ they can afford it. Nancy Pelosi will sell her restaurant chain to keep 'em in business ~ that's where her husband gets his "veal" anyway.

8 posted on 11/21/2009 1:41:25 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: khnyny

Here’s the link for the coupon for tomorrow’s “special collection”.

http://bellarmineveritasministry.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/collection.pdf


9 posted on 11/21/2009 1:43:15 PM PST by khnyny (The problem is Obama didn't grow up watching "Hogan's Heroes" (American exceptionalism)
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To: khnyny

Rejoice in the freedom to confront evil. This country is fast approaching the day when believers are going to have to choose which master they will serve.


10 posted on 11/21/2009 1:44:37 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: khnyny

While I defintely fit the description of a “Conservative Christian”, I think that all like minded conservatives regardless of their religious affiliations that desire to live in a Constitutional Republic need to start practicing civil disobedience immediately if they haven’t already. I am not waiting on any armchair revolutionary to lead me, my declaration of intent to quietly refuse to follow laws deemed unconstitutional has already been posted. Some things are worth putting it all on the line for.


11 posted on 11/21/2009 1:45:52 PM PST by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: GeronL

Well, I think everyone needs to be reminded that good, law-abiding citizens murdered Jews in Germany. It was all perfectly “legal”. The German court system said so.


12 posted on 11/21/2009 1:46:03 PM PST by khnyny (The problem is Obama didn't grow up watching "Hogan's Heroes" (American exceptionalism)
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To: khnyny

I note with pleasure that my bishop, The Rt. Rev. Bishop Basil Essy, Bishop of Wichita and Mid-America is the ninth signatory, and the first Orthodox signatory of the declaration, and that my old parish priest, now the Chancellor of St. Vladimir’s Orthodox Seminary also signed.


13 posted on 11/21/2009 1:52:22 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Religious leaders vow civil disobedience


14 posted on 11/21/2009 1:59:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: The_Reader_David

That’s great.

Do you have a link to the petition so we at FR and beyond can distribute? Thanks.

Can you tell that I’m more than a little pissed? I know this much, if someone like me is pissed, there are millions upon millions out there just like me or more so.


15 posted on 11/21/2009 2:14:24 PM PST by khnyny (The problem is Obama didn't grow up watching "Hogan's Heroes" (American exceptionalism)
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To: khnyny

I think it may be in here

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/catholic-tv-host-challenges-bishops/


16 posted on 11/21/2009 2:22:29 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Big_Harry

I am not a Christian, but I support this effort 100%.


17 posted on 11/21/2009 3:00:49 PM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: khnyny
It almost appears like our government is setting itself up as an enemy of people of faith.

I think it has been going on for a very long time.

18 posted on 11/21/2009 3:08:48 PM PST by Mark17
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To: Mark17

Yes, I agree. It has become increasingly obvious to me that is the case. It is very sad and very dangerous for our country. Imho, the ramifications cannot be overstated.


19 posted on 11/21/2009 3:16:13 PM PST by khnyny (The problem is Obama didn't grow up watching "Hogan's Heroes" (American exceptionalism)
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To: khnyny
The Manhattan Declaration can be downloaded in .pdf format, as can the list of the initial 148 signatories at

The Manhattan Declaration

There is also a form for folks to add their (digital) signatures linked from the site.

20 posted on 11/21/2009 3:20:01 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David

Thank you very much - I appreciate the information.


21 posted on 11/21/2009 3:24:05 PM PST by khnyny (The problem is Obama didn't grow up watching "Hogan's Heroes" (American exceptionalism)
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To: EternalVigilance

*ping* - the Washington Post version of the story.


22 posted on 11/21/2009 3:51:46 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: jessduntno

Not all; principally Christians, because they represent the core of active, organized opposition to abortion on demand, the Holy Sacrament of Radical Feminism. Many non-Christians also are pro-life, but they are more scattered, while Christianity is a readily identifiable and attackable target.


23 posted on 11/21/2009 3:59:30 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: khnyny

They could have written the same headline about Martin Luther King Jr.


24 posted on 11/21/2009 5:20:06 PM PST by Tribune7 (God bless Carrie Prejean)
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To: GeronL

Nothing confirms the rightness of standing for life and orthodox teaching on marriage more then the howls of outrage from these God haters. Truly Legion is many.


25 posted on 11/21/2009 5:22:52 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance

I agree.


26 posted on 11/21/2009 5:47:22 PM PST by GeronL
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To: khnyny
Just signed it. My Bishop, Thomas Olmstead, also signed it, which is good enough for me. Love that guy!

Mrs. Prince of Space

27 posted on 11/21/2009 5:56:43 PM PST by Prince of Space (Don't use a big word when a diminutive one will do....)
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To: khnyny
It almost appears like our government is setting itself up as an enemy of people of faith.

That is ONLY true for people of CHRISTIAN faith. The Kenyan Usurper LOVES his fellow Muslims, as well ad Darwinists, Humanists, Satanists and just about every other "ist" and "ism" except that followed by the vast majority of Americans. What will it take to reclaim America for Christ once and for all?
28 posted on 11/21/2009 6:34:34 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: prairiebreeze

post 20 in AM


29 posted on 11/21/2009 6:39:51 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Prayers for the Ft. Hood families, victims and soldiers.)
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To: reg45

We all need to lock arms if the Republic is going to be saved. Freedom applies to all that are willing to make the necessary sacrifices to hold it.


30 posted on 11/22/2009 5:19:10 AM PST by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: khnyny

Take a stand. Sign the declaration. There are now 17857 signatures. It might be going viral.

www.manhattandeclaration.org


31 posted on 11/22/2009 11:51:42 AM PST by Russ7
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