Skip to comments.Department of Homeland Security Is Coming To See You!
Posted on 11/21/2009 2:24:33 PM PST by UnBubba
I hold an executive position at a private corporation located on Long Island, NY (250+ employees). On Thursday, November 19, 2009, two casually dressed gentlemen showed up at our facility (unannounced) and asked for the Human Resource Manager.
They, unilaterally, determined that our company had a connection to the public safety and national security concerns of the United States. As such, they are requiring us to provide them with 100% of the Form I-9 - Employment Eligibility Verifications for all our current employees and employees who have been terminated within the past 12 months.
The purpose of the form is for an employer to determine if each new employee hired after 11-6-86 is authorized to work in the United States. This form is not filed with any government agency, but must be maintained by the employer.
On this form a newly hired employeey must list their name, maiden name, address, SS#, DOB, proclaim their citizen status (under the penalty of perjury) and provide sufficient documentation to prove they are qualified to work in the United States. Qualified documentation includes passport, driver's license, voter registration card, U.S. military card, school report card, birth certificate and many more obscure proofs of ID.
Homeland Security (ICE - Immigration and Custom Enforcement Division) wants a copy of all these I-9 forms within 2 weeks.
I am very interested in the opinion of my fellow Freeper's regarding this issue.
I think it’s good that someone is looking at those I-9s. You are required to maintain them for a reason...
Homeland Security is a big new government expansion. It does nothing to protect us and will become a monster. Our only hope is a bankruptcy of such magnitude that the Federal Government goes out of Biz. The FBI was supposed to watch out for foriegn agents if I recall.
If they used this info to DEPORT any illegal, I might not be too suspicious about it. Unfortunately, they likely will do nothing with it.
I-9 is the Reagan era citizenship verification form and is one of the only commonly used instrument used to check employment eligibility during the hiring phase. If the Feds are just now showing an interest, I say to things- 1) About time and 2) what took you so long?
Under Bush, the former question, because they were looking for terrorists on his watch. Under Obama, the latter question, I’m not convinced he is, or at least not to the intensity of Bush’s administration. Afterall, all cultures are equal and diversity is a good thing, so why make assumptions about a group that is committing violence everywhere else in the world, as well as here? Nothing to see here, move on......
My question to you would be, does your company hire illegal aliens? If your answer is absolutely not, I too would be concerned about what they are up to.
If your company does hire illegal aliens, shame on them for creating a security risk and in which case the government is not impeding on your freedom. Employing illegal aliens is illegal.
We verify EVERY employee as to their status in Arizona. As a result, hordes of illegals have left Arizona for Mexico or *chuckle* California.
I don’t remember, are photocopies of the proof of ID included in the information kept with the I-9’s?
Maybe there is a threat that they aren’t telling us about.
U.S. immigration officials put an unprecedented 1,000 businesses including 42 in the Houston metro area on notice Thursday that their paperwork would be inspected to make sure they don't employ illegal immigrants.
The announcement marks the largest round of immigration-related business audits ever, and the latest in an ongoing Department of Homeland Security campaign to create a culture of compliance with immigration law among employers, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Assistant Secretary John Morton said Thursday.
The audits will target businesses ICE has identified as being associated with the nation's critical infrastructure, which includes some industries key to Texas oil, transportation, medicine, public health and finance. During an audit, ICE reviews the I-9 forms that all employers must use to document the eligibility of new workers.
ICE officials declined to identify the companies being targeted, but a total of 161 Texas businesses were served with notices that they will be audited. More than half of the Houston-area companies targeted employ more than 50 people, and 28 percent have more than 100 on their payrolls, ICE officials said.
If you want to go further, your company can voluntarily participate in employee verification.
I think it’s just more government snooping and harrassment. Why isn’t ICE looking into this?
I suspect that Homeland Security is becoming Bambi’s enforcement wing.
As it is a public document, why the heck not? Just a thought.
.... they are requiring us to provide them with 100% of the Form I-9 - Employment Eligibility Verifications for all our current employees and employees who have been terminated within the past 12 months.
ICE wants a copy of all these I-9 forms within 2 weeks.
Tell them to pound sand until they produce a Search Warrant signed by a Federal Judge and they put it in your hand. Tell them its due to that little that 4th Amendment thingy.
Forth Amendment:And you may want to remind them -- just for fun -- that Obama isn't King, they ain't Dukes or Earls, and Martial Law hasn't been declared.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Tell them to go get a warrant and then comply with a smile.
To answer a previous poster's question - No, we do not hire "illegals" (i.e.; individuals who are not legally allowed to work in the United States). What makes me uncomfortable is that the government will now have detailed information about 100% of the employees who work at my company. WHY???
Note: The following text is a quote:
November 19, 2009
ICE Assistant Secretary John Morton announces 1,000 new workplace audits to hold employers accountable for their hiring practices
WASHINGTON-U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Assistant Secretary John Morton today announced the issuance of Notices of Inspection (NOIs) to 1,000 employers across the country associated with critical infrastructure-alerting business owners that ICE will audit their hiring records to determine compliance with employment eligibility verification laws.
“ICE is focused on finding and penalizing employers who believe they can unfairly get ahead by cultivating illegal workplaces,” said Assistant Secretary Morton. “We are increasing criminal and civil enforcement of immigration-related employment laws and imposing smart, tough employer sanctions to even the playing field for employers who play by the rules.”
The 1,000 businesses served with audit notices this week were selected for inspection as a result of investigative leads and intelligence and because of the business’ connection to public safety and national security-for example, privately owned critical infrastructure and key resources. The names and locations of the businesses will not be released at this time due to the ongoing, law enforcement sensitive nature of these audits.
Audits involve a comprehensive review of Form I-9s, which employers are required to complete and retain for each individual hired in the United States. I-9 forms require employers to review and record each individual’s identity and work eligibility document(s) and determine whether the document(s) reasonably appear to be genuine and related to that specific individual.
Protecting employment opportunities for the nation’s lawful workforce and targeting employers who knowingly employ an illegal workforce are major ICE priorities, for which ICE employs all available civil and administrative tools, including audits. Audits may result in civil penalties and lay the groundwork for criminal prosecution of employers who knowingly violate the law.
In April, DHS issued updated worksite enforcement guidance emphasizing ICE’s major enforcement priorities-specifically focusing on dangerous criminal aliens and employers who cultivate illegal workplaces by breaking the country’s laws and knowingly hiring illegal workers. In this strategy, ICE identified form I-9 audits as the most important administrative tool in building criminal cases and bringing employers into compliance with the law.
Statistics since implementation of new ICE worksite enforcement strategy on April 30:
45 businesses and 47 individuals debarred;
0 businesses and 1 individual were debarred during same period in FY 2008.
142 Notices of Intent to Fine (NIF) totaling $15,865,181;
ICE issued 32 NIFs totaling $2,355,330 in all of FY 2008.
45 Final Orders totaling $798,179;
ICE issued eight Final Orders totaling $196,523 during the same period in FY 2008.
1,897 cases initiated;
ICE initiated 605 cases during the same period in FY 2008.
1,069 Form I-9 Inspections;
ICE initiated 503 Form I-9 Inspections in all of FY 2008.
In July, ICE issued 654 NOIs to businesses nationwide in the largest operation of its kind before today - part of ICE’s effort to audit businesses suspected of using illegal labor.
Statistics resulting from the 654 audits announced in July:
ICE agents reviewed more than 85,000 Form I-9s and identified more than 14,000 suspect documents - approximately 16 percent of the total number reviewed.
To date, 61 NIFs have been issued, resulting in $2,310,255 in fines. In addition, 267 cases are currently being considered for Notices of Intent to Fine (NIFs).
ICE closed 326 cases after businesses were found to be in compliance with employment laws or after businesses were served with a Warning Notice in expectation of future compliance.
For more information, visit www.ice.gov.
— ICE —