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Teen Sex Magazine to Stay on Shelves at Iowa Library [Parents Rebuffed]
FoxNews ^ | November 22nd 2009

Posted on 11/22/2009 1:35:43 PM PST by Steelfish

Teen Sex Magazine to Stay on Shelves at Iowa Library Sunday, November 22, 2009

AMES, Iowa — A teen sex magazine will stay on the shelves at the Ames Public Library despite a petition signed by more than 100 parents objecting to the publication.

The Ames Library Board voted 6-1 to support library Director Art Weeks' recommendation to keep the magazine Sex, Ect., in the teen section.

The magazine is written by and for teens under the oversight of Answer, a national sexuality organization at Rutgers University. It addresses teen sexuality issues, substance abuse and eating disorders.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
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1 posted on 11/22/2009 1:35:43 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Why not just remove every book and publication from that library that a hundred or so people object?


2 posted on 11/22/2009 1:38:37 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Steelfish

Too bad houseflys can’t read.


3 posted on 11/22/2009 1:39:25 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Steelfish

Two things come to mind....

1. I hope the library’s fire insurance is paid up.

2. I hope the library does not expect the voters to approve their next millage request.


4 posted on 11/22/2009 1:40:43 PM PST by garyb
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To: Steelfish
It would be a shame if 100 people went to the library each week and each took 2 or 3 books off the New Releases shelf and sauntered out the door accidentally forgetting to check out the books. A loss of 2-300 books each week for a month or two would really be noticeable. Maybe not right away. But eventually.

Of course, once the government started listening to the voice of the people, perhaps the people would remember that they had library books to return. I'm sure the situation would straighten itself out in the end.

5 posted on 11/22/2009 1:42:39 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Steelfish
The Ames Library Board voted 6-1 to support library Director Art Weeks' recommendation to keep the magazine Sex, Ect., in the teen section.

Time to vote in a new library board.

6 posted on 11/22/2009 1:43:19 PM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness)
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To: Steelfish
The magazine is written by and for teens under the oversight of Answer, a national sexuality organization at Rutgers University. It addresses teen sexuality issues, substance abuse and eating disorders.

From the thread title, I was expecting Hustler's Barely Legal.

7 posted on 11/22/2009 1:43:41 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Steelfish
It addresses teen sexuality issues, substance abuse and eating disorders.

Plus, it makes it easier for the teachers to know which students to prey on.

8 posted on 11/22/2009 1:44:01 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: garyb
1. I hope the library’s fire insurance is paid up.

Always a Book Burner in the house.

9 posted on 11/22/2009 1:44:31 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Steelfish
The Ames Library Board voted 6-1 to support library Director Art Weeks' recommendation to keep the magazine Sex, Ect., in the teen section.

Screw the magazine, (pun intended) if it is objectionable by most, can the library board for "change".

10 posted on 11/22/2009 1:45:03 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS
Screw the magazine, (pun intended) if it is objectionable by most, can the library board for "change".

Where did you get the idea that is was "objectionable by most?"

11 posted on 11/22/2009 1:46:43 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Go to the school board and get a teen girl to read the good parts to them.


12 posted on 11/22/2009 1:47:17 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Drew68
I was expecting Hustler's Barely Legal.

I 'spose pic's are out of the question? ~snort!

13 posted on 11/22/2009 1:47:31 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: trumandogz
Where did you get the idea that is was "objectionable by most?"

I didn't convey that it was...

14 posted on 11/22/2009 1:48:48 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Steelfish
You have the right to object if it's a public library funded with your tax dollars. I would object if it were my tax dollars; this is the case for libertarianism and free - markets. If you want to open a private library for your disgusting paraphernalia, then so be it. But not with tax dollars. You should see the filth this magazine advocates, not teaches - it's an advocacy group. Here's the website to the magazine: http://www.sexetc.org/

Beyond protesting the use of tax dollars, it's up to parents to teach their own kids from early ages (my wife homeschools all five of our kids through CDELA ( http://cdela.com/ )). That way you can control and witness what's being taught your children without paying tuition.

15 posted on 11/22/2009 1:51:06 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (My oath is to the Constitution, not to the state or the President. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/)
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To: AppyPappy
Go to the school board and get a teen girl to read the good parts to them.

No, unlike many here, I am not one for banning books in the public library.

Just leave the magazine there and take the responsibility of being a parent and decide what your child can and cannot read and do not dictate what other people's children cannot read.

16 posted on 11/22/2009 1:52:38 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Do parents have rights over how their kids are being “educated”?


17 posted on 11/22/2009 1:52:53 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: trumandogz
Why not just remove every book and publication from that library that a hundred or so people object?

Ames only has about 50,000 people so 100 people calling up is not that trivial.

I'm guessing the library board is pretty resistant to popular opinion for some reason. Maybe these beauracrats think God pays their salary ?

18 posted on 11/22/2009 1:53:52 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Steelfish; Quix

Thx.

Ping.


19 posted on 11/22/2009 1:55:08 PM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Engineer_Soldier
You have the right to object if it's a public library funded with your tax dollars. I would object if it were my tax dollars; this is the case for libertarianism and free - markets.

Okay, so since you are a tax payer, you can choose what books should be removed from the library?

20 posted on 11/22/2009 1:55:28 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Steelfish

The great irony of this sort of thing is that almost invariably, this becomes an issue when a child brings home such material, and their parent sees it. Yet the vast majority of concerned parents kids would never be interested in this kind of subject matter.

So the problem lies with a single child, and other children whose parents don’t care. This means the emphasis should not be on all children, but on that one child, and *why* that child got the controversial material in the first place.

An excellent example was in a different case, when a child checked out a book that was about child molestation. This should have been a major warning sign for the school counselor, who would have been tipped off by the librarian, and would arrange a “random” meeting with the child in their office. Hopefully discreetly video recorded.

No doubt many parents would object to a book about child molestation being in the school library, not realizing it was a trigger that might catch a child sex offender.

So case in point. This magazine is about “...sexuality issues, substance abuse and eating disorders.” So if a child picks up a copy, they need to be interviewed, because if they do have a problem, it is unlikely it can be solved by an article in a magazine.

It sounds intrusive, but such intrusion might be for very good reasons, and might save a troubled child in the process.


21 posted on 11/22/2009 1:56:01 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Nonstatist
Ames only has about 50,000 people so 100 people calling up is not that trivial.

Okay, so if .02% of the population objects to a book it should be removed from the library?

If that is the case, you will need to remove all the books from libraries.

Good Thinking!

22 posted on 11/22/2009 2:00:24 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Steelfish

We, the People, who support these librarians, should just steal the copies. Each month.


23 posted on 11/22/2009 2:02:04 PM PST by bboop
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To: Steelfish
Do parents have rights over how their kids are being “educated”?

No, parents have the Responsibility to make sure their kids are educated.

With that Responsibility comes the obligation to control what your kids read and not depend on the Nanny State to control what your children as well as other people's children can and cannot read.

24 posted on 11/22/2009 2:05:43 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Steelfish
Sexcetera is a show on the Playboy cable channel and it's not exactly "educational." Wonder how this rag got around the copyright issue.

There's no need to have this on the shelf other than poke a finger in the eye of conservative parents. Hardly any libraries are comprehensive in their print collections any more as they transition more and more to video and Internet.

25 posted on 11/22/2009 2:05:57 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: Steelfish

Sex, Ect.? Really? I didn’t know teens were that interested in electroconvulsive therapy and I certainly don’t understand how that relates to sex.

The definition of ect. - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ECT-


26 posted on 11/22/2009 2:07:32 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: trumandogz

Why not excuse poison being given to our youth?

http://www.sexetc.org/


27 posted on 11/22/2009 2:07:51 PM PST by Crim
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To: Steelfish

Nobody is forced to borrow a book. Its just like TV, if you don’t like it, change the channel. If you don’t like your kids accessing it, monitor them. We don’t live in an Islamic state run by Mullahs. We are not in a theocracy.


28 posted on 11/22/2009 2:12:13 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

And that said, there is NO WAY I would let my kid see that junk. But that’s my job as a parent. That magazine and site is just a front for the pro-abortion groups.


29 posted on 11/22/2009 2:14:07 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Steelfish

a national sexuality organization ???


30 posted on 11/22/2009 2:14:17 PM PST by votemout
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To: trumandogz

Very good point.


31 posted on 11/22/2009 2:15:22 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Steelfish

Good thing it wasn’t, say a Christian magazine, or something...

hh


32 posted on 11/22/2009 2:17:05 PM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: Crim
Why not excuse poison being given to our youth?

So, according to you all texts that you believe are poison should be removed from the public library?

That being the case, can I remove all the books I think are poison from the library?

Can my lesbian neighbors remove all the books they think are poison from the library?

Can my Liberal Jewish wife remove all the books she thinks are poison from the library?

Can the Atheist around the corner remove all the books she thinks are poison from the library?

Can the Christian Conservative that I work with remove all the books he thinks are poison from the library?

Can the Latino activist on the other side of town remove all the books he thinks are poison from the library?

Can the Radical Muslims remove all the books they think are poison from the library?

33 posted on 11/22/2009 2:17:40 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Steelfish

All of those parents need to remember this the next time the library wants another tax levy passed. It won’t hurt them to have to lay off a few of the rude employees who think they know better than you do for your child!


34 posted on 11/22/2009 2:18:06 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Steelfish

The parents should use guerilla warfare. Start sticking gum between the pages of the mag whenever they go to the library.


35 posted on 11/22/2009 2:22:23 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Steelfish
Art Weeks' recommendation to keep the magazine Sex, Ect., in the teen section.

Ect?

What the hell is "Ect"?

Are they maybe trying to abbreviate "etcetera" which is done thusly: Etc.

Durn illiterates. Worse than sex mags if you ask me.

36 posted on 11/22/2009 2:23:58 PM PST by humblegunner
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Okay, so since you are a tax payer, you can choose what books should be removed from the library?

No, not really. It's just a case for NEVER publicly funding things such as art, libraries, etc. Then people can vote with their own wallet and not have that vote taken for them by the public.

37 posted on 11/22/2009 2:25:26 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (My oath is to the Constitution, not to the state or the President. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/)
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To: trumandogz
Why not just remove every book and publication from that library that a hundred or so people object?

The homepage of the magazine's website.

You know, I don't object to this sort of thing being in a library. But I would be mighty upset if I found out that my kid was allowed to check it out without my knowledge.

38 posted on 11/22/2009 2:29:38 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: trumandogz

So what’s wrong with reading it to the school board then?


39 posted on 11/22/2009 2:30:51 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Engineer_Soldier

Okay, I can agree with that.

No libraries are better than having libraries where Nanny State Do Gooders can dictate what people can and cannot read.


40 posted on 11/22/2009 2:31:13 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: AppyPappy
So what’s wrong with reading it to the school board then?

Nothing at all, if that is what you wish to do.

However, it may be more effective to actually accept the responsibility of being a parent, instead of depending on the Nanny State to do the parenting.

41 posted on 11/22/2009 2:34:44 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: markomalley
I would be mighty upset if I found out that my kid was allowed to check it out without my knowledge.

Actually, all you need to do is to accept the responsibility of being a parent and monitor what your kids are reading.

It's really not that hard.

42 posted on 11/22/2009 2:39:16 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Texas Eagle

The NEA, Librarian Pedophiles, Gays tageting new recruits and Democrats in General delight in the sickening society.


43 posted on 11/22/2009 2:40:20 PM PST by redstateconfidential (`)
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To: humblegunner

I was going to say that. I’m amazed the thread ran so long before someone did!

Have a Guinness or a Land Shark!


44 posted on 11/22/2009 2:42:12 PM PST by Tax-chick (Buy me a "Land Shark" and take me to Anguilla.)
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To: Steelfish

One of the people responsible for the material in a school, is the school librarian. A lot of these people read the books, before it’s given to the students to read.

Now, there are some who would oppose Tom Sawyer, Huckle Berry Fin; because of the word ‘nigger’ that is used so commonly. Others would object to the Harry Potter books, Wizard of Oz and others; because of Witchcraft. Some would oppose any books detailing the atrosities of war, and some will object because the books depict, display or somehow handle sexual content in an adult manner.

Now, this may come as a surprise to many; but adolescent boys and girls either know, or have a pretty good idea of what a naked member of the opposite sex looks like. They also know what a libido is; as their hormones are raging.

This is where a little bit of Parental Responsibility is supposed to pop up. But, no; it’s easier to demand that the internet be regulated, the TV shows be regulated, the content of the books be regulated so Mom and Dad don’t have to get off their fat a$$ and actuall engage with their offspring.

I’m a Granddad, my parents know what books I read - and the fact is that my parents actively engaged in getting me to read as many books as I could. Reading is a skill, the more you read; the better you get at it. There were some books that my parents felt were too ‘adult’ in nature; so I was encouraged to read other books. Only an idiot child would think that bringing a Playboy home to read the articles would be the same as reading a book by Stephen Hawkings entitled “A Brief History of Time”.

Now, many boys and girls may not read the entire book, they might have highly personal questions that they simply feel uncomfortable discussing with anyone - and I mean anyone. We remember the dreams and the event that take place at night, need I go into them? So, what is a young boy, or young girl to do? It’s not something that a young child discusses with his parents “Hey Dad, guess what?”. Or, for that matter discusses with his Mother, or his friends “You’ll never guess what I dreamed last night”. So, they either live in fear, or shame, or a mixture of both - or they read some article that gives them the information that they are too scared to ask about.

That said, I think there is a huge difference between “Hustler’s Barely Legal” and this publication. Information is never a bad thing; for information provides the baseline for every decision we make. Most bad decisions involve insufficient, or poor information, right?


45 posted on 11/22/2009 2:43:39 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Damn Good Post!


46 posted on 11/22/2009 2:46:32 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Poison.


47 posted on 11/22/2009 2:54:11 PM PST by Crim
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To: StolarStorm
Nobody is forced to borrow a book. Its just like TV, if you don’t like it, change the channel. If you don’t like your kids accessing it, monitor them. We don’t live in an Islamic state run by Mullahs. We are not in a theocracy.

Yes ... and no. If my tax dollars are being used to buy it, it should be something that is morally positive or at least morally neutral. In this case (and I have not checked the magazine out), if it falls short of that rather low threshold, it should not be purchased with my tax dollars.

48 posted on 11/22/2009 2:57:12 PM PST by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: Tax-chick
Have a Guinness or a Land Shark!

Thanks, I shall!

49 posted on 11/22/2009 3:02:24 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: trumandogz

Can we have hardcore porn displayed for your kids to see? American society does have standards even if you don’t.


50 posted on 11/22/2009 3:03:32 PM PST by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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