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Army asks Palin not to give speech at book signing
The AP ^ | 9:05 a.m. Monday, November 23, 2009 | The AP

Posted on 11/23/2009 8:11:49 AM PST by Dacula

Edited on 11/23/2009 8:17:37 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

FORT BRAGG, N.C. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin promises to limit her enthusiasm during her visit to North Carolina's Fort Bragg.

The former Republican vice presidential candidate planned to sign copies of her new memoir at a post store Monday. Army officials say Palin will not make a speech, pose for photos, or personalize notes in the books she signs.


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1 posted on 11/23/2009 8:11:50 AM PST by Dacula
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To: Dacula
“The Army worried Palin’s appearance would prompt political grandstanding against President Barack Obama”

R E A L L Y !!!!!!!

Then WTF was “O”doing trooping around the world and shooting off his mouth, while “W” was still President???

2 posted on 11/23/2009 8:14:58 AM PST by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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To: Dacula

What a giant crock of BS! I can’t believe the commanding officers of our fine troops have so little faith in their troops that they can’t be trusted to hear a speech by a former governor and VP candidate.

It must be a pretty touchy time on military bases these days if discipline and morale is so low they have to fear the appearance of a single person will disrupt their operation.

Sad, sad.


3 posted on 11/23/2009 8:15:40 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: Dacula
understandable....military is suppose to remain nonpolitical.
4 posted on 11/23/2009 8:15:47 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Dacula

Army careers must be protected at all costs!


5 posted on 11/23/2009 8:16:05 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Dacula
The Army should stick to winning wars and keeping America safe and knock off all of this PC BS. Sarah Palin is a private citizen, leave her alone.
6 posted on 11/23/2009 8:16:22 AM PST by JPG (Obama's plan for America...today, Labor Unions...tomorrow, Labor Camps.)
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To: Dacula

It’s an Army Post, when in Rome do as the Romans. They have their rules, Sarah has no problems with legitimate rules.

Cant understand why no photo’s though.


7 posted on 11/23/2009 8:16:24 AM PST by Venturer
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To: jwparkerjr

Palin has skin in the game. Her son is in the US Army and served in Iraq. She is more than just a former candidate.


8 posted on 11/23/2009 8:18:04 AM PST by kabar
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To: JPG

Well, sure, shes a private citizen, but theyre not going into her house and telling her not to make a speech. Theyre telling her not to come into theirs and do it.

Simple fact: Follow the rules.

And Sarah Palin has no problem with it, so why should we?


9 posted on 11/23/2009 8:19:06 AM PST by ketelone
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To: Venturer

“not pose for photos, or personalize notes in the books she signs.”

Yep, this part doesn’t make much sense. Any other celebrity, they would allow photos. Must have come from higher up.


10 posted on 11/23/2009 8:19:24 AM PST by bluecollarman (Obama's amazing! One beer summit and he wins a Nobel Peace Prize.)
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To: Dacula

Isn’t there some venue right off base that Palin can go to, and only the troops can be admitted to visit her? Somebody has to have a place to host her and the troops....


11 posted on 11/23/2009 8:19:29 AM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Doogle; SolidWood; euram; Al B.; jla
understandable....military is suppose to remain nonpolitical.

But it isn't in fact... Note that Fort Hood's restrictions for her forthcoming visit are far looser than at Fort Bragg.

I also read in another thread that the CO's billet at Bragg is currently open, and that a scramble among the local brass is underway to fill it. I have no doubt that this is part of the jockeying.

I'm curious as to what kind of secret orders have gone out to the troops concerning Sarah's visit...

12 posted on 11/23/2009 8:20:03 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Dacula

God help us in our day. God bless America. Have mercy on America. Forgive us our careless drifting. In Jesus name. Amen.

We are in a totalitarian state of being in America as I write this ... do not think we are not! Tyranny has come. MO


13 posted on 11/23/2009 8:20:32 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Dacula

What happened to FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 11/23/2009 8:22:03 AM PST by pollywog ( It's Saturday ~~~ But SUNDAY'S A COMING'!!!!)
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To: Doogle
The Army is completely political. They have Mohammedan clerics give speeches here at Fort Benning. Affirmative Action is dominant. Other authors would not be so restricted.
15 posted on 11/23/2009 8:22:07 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: SMARTY

I have had hope that at some point the military might step in to save us from the obamination - sort of like Honduras - but obviously they’re too busy being PC to lift a finger. Seeing Gen Casey on TV saying that loss of diversity would be worse than the Ft Hood lives that were lost told me that we are screwed.


16 posted on 11/23/2009 8:22:11 AM PST by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Dacula

Then there’s this:

Fort Bragg spokesman Tom McCollum tells WTVD-TV that sales of Palin’s book at the post store have been weak so far.

I don’t suppose it occurred to tom that maybe buyers
were waiting for Sarah?

So the spokesman for the base is a civilian?


17 posted on 11/23/2009 8:23:38 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Doogle

You are correct, of course.


18 posted on 11/23/2009 8:23:50 AM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: Dacula
I'm in complete agreement with this...The US Armed Forces need to remain assiduously non-political--they need to go above and beyond the call of duty to maintain complete impartiality when it comes to politics. I don't like it when the dumbocrats do it, and I don't think it's appropriate for any Rs to do it either. The book signing is a commercial event anyway.
19 posted on 11/23/2009 8:24:09 AM PST by rottndog (Freedom IS NOT FREE--Let us NEVER FORGET those that have paid the highest price for it!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Where are the loud and screechie voices who spoke of censorship and the “cold wind” when we drove over our Dixie Chick CDs.
Censorship can only come from the Govt.


20 posted on 11/23/2009 8:24:35 AM PST by mpackard (Read my Lip-Stick)
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To: Dacula

On this one, I’m siding with the Army. No political speeches on military bases. None.


21 posted on 11/23/2009 8:24:35 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Monterrosa-24

..and with that I’ll simply add this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw


22 posted on 11/23/2009 8:24:42 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: JPG

This is not PC on a military base. It is being handled according to protocol. This has not changed.


23 posted on 11/23/2009 8:24:54 AM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: Dacula

They don’t want the troops to hear what her hopes for Afganistan might be in contrast to The One’s dithering.


24 posted on 11/23/2009 8:25:18 AM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: pollywog

The Army is just obeying the Commander-in-Chief!!


25 posted on 11/23/2009 8:25:20 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: Dacula

Name another person the Army has said this to!


26 posted on 11/23/2009 8:25:21 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Doogle

Exactly.
If Palin can use an Army base for a political speech, so can Biden, Pelosi, et al.

Now, it’s granted that a president’s speech will automatically have political undertones, as it’s impossible not to. But, inviting someone to explicitly make a political speech is another thing.

You’d have to be crazy not to understand where The Army is coming from, even after the Hasan disaster.


27 posted on 11/23/2009 8:25:30 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Venturer

Senior officers in major commands are POLITICAL creatures. We saw the same politics as ususual when Zumwalt was CNO ... nothing changes.

The closes thing I have ever to seen of reality depicting most flag officers ... read Beetle Bailey .. Gen Halftrack is a perfect example


28 posted on 11/23/2009 8:25:37 AM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: tet68

“So the spokesman for the base is a civilian?”

Not unusual at all. I was in the Public Affairs field in the AF; civilian PAers are common.


29 posted on 11/23/2009 8:26:09 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: jwparkerjr

Oh come on...this edict comes directly from on high, from that most mighty and most holy home of America’s King...

THE WHITE HOUSE.

Cause the army can behave and like you point out, Palin is a former Governor of an American state and a VP candidate.

Would the army do the same for, say, a visit from Mitt Romney?


30 posted on 11/23/2009 8:26:10 AM PST by Fishtalk
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To: Dacula

Be careful fellas, that’s your next boss!


31 posted on 11/23/2009 8:26:41 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: tet68

Nowadays, the public affairs officers are generally civilians.


32 posted on 11/23/2009 8:27:27 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Fishtalk

Mitt Romney is no threat to Zero — Palin is.


33 posted on 11/23/2009 8:27:29 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: Dacula

They are afraid that Sarah will embarrass the military by telling them something like “hey you guys make a great photo op.” /s


34 posted on 11/23/2009 8:28:13 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Aria

I wouldn’t mind if the Army would have asked her to keep her speech within certain parameters, but to simply ban her from speaking to the troops is a political statement of its own. It looks like the Commander and Chief is using his power to control the message that troop receive. Here is a question: If troops are allowed to vote (and of course they need to be allowed to vote)then would they be completely shielded from current political issues?


35 posted on 11/23/2009 8:28:18 AM PST by Sarah-bot (I am the state Cleavage Czar)
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To: SMARTY

Now it truly is an Army of One !

Can I tell you how happy I am that my son is no longer in the US Army?


36 posted on 11/23/2009 8:28:26 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: budwiesest

“They don’t want the troops to hear what her hopes for Afganistan might be in contrast to The One’s dithering.”

She could go right outside the post gates in Fayetteville and give any speech she wants, but on a military base, it’s a no-go.


37 posted on 11/23/2009 8:28:44 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: Dacula
Is the official SOP???

Do the same conditions hold for others of similar status??

38 posted on 11/23/2009 8:29:06 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: pollywog

The truth ... on base or off base, in uniform there IS no freedom of speech. God help a sailor or airman if he voice his views publicly, paticularly in a forum that will reach others. It falls unders UCMJ .... penetration however slight ....

The military individual lives under dicatorship to protect and preserve the rights of Americican’s under the Constitution. It is why the Oath is taken upon enlisting or commisioning and is taken seriously.


39 posted on 11/23/2009 8:30:33 AM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: SMARTY

I was under the impression that if you were a good Commander-in-Chief you wouldn’t have to tell your soldiers how to act.


40 posted on 11/23/2009 8:30:33 AM PST by kempster
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To: Dacula
The Army worried Palin's appearance would prompt political grandstanding against President Barack Obama.

In other news, Obama squelches investigation of the Ft. Hood jihadist the army was protecting. Gee, seems like this would be a good time for the army to man up on the side of America, but then what do I know.

41 posted on 11/23/2009 8:33:11 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: jwparkerjr

Maybe she should bring her powerpoint presentation on how wonderful Jihad against the nonbelievers is.


42 posted on 11/23/2009 8:33:23 AM PST by gura (R-MO)
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To: SMARTY
Then WTF was “O”doing trooping around the world and shooting off his mouth, while “W” was still President???

I loathe and detest Obama, but I will say that when he made his little campaign (photo op) stop in Baghdad in July 2008, he didn't mention President Bush or bash anything connected with the war.

He probably had to be cautioned about that prior to his visit, but he did refrain. This was billed as a standard senator visit, but we all had to go on lockdown while he was nearby, when we never even had to do that when the President was in town, let alone other senators.

43 posted on 11/23/2009 8:33:56 AM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: SMARTY

I bet she wouldn’t refer to the troops as ‘photo ops’.


44 posted on 11/23/2009 8:34:06 AM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: HiramQuick

This is what I am trying to say. I can see the Army telling Sarah not to give a political speech, but why would the Army prevent her from giving a troop morale pep speech, a USO style speech. I’m I wrong in believing the famous personalities give pep rallies through the USO? Are USO affiliates the only one allowed to give pep speeches. I just see the Army as handling the situation in an overtly hostile manner. The Army could have asked Sarah not to make a speech with out the fact leaking to the press.


45 posted on 11/23/2009 8:35:42 AM PST by Sarah-bot (I am the state Cleavage Czar)
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To: Aria
Seeing Gen Casey on TV saying that loss of diversity would be worse than the Ft Hood lives that were lost told me that we are screwed.

WHAT?!? He #$%&^*$% said that?!?

46 posted on 11/23/2009 8:36:54 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Doogle
The Army is making this Political. They are making an issue where none exists, unless they subscribe with the Obama Doctrine of silencing any potential critics before they open their mouths.

How ironic that someone promoting the American Values of Freedom and Patriotism with our Troops is now Persona Non Grata.

If President G.W. Bush visits Fort Bragg when his book comes out, will the Army tell him what he can say and do while he is there? I think not...

This is nothing but the usual PC crap that got fourteen people murdered in cold blood.

47 posted on 11/23/2009 8:36:54 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Conservatives THINK people are smart. Liberals KNOW people are stupid.)
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To: Doogle

This isn’t political ~ she’s going as a private citizen. I for one, even if my husband was still active duty, would be pretty upset if I couldn’t get a personalized note from Sarah in my book!

It’s no different than allowing members of congress to travel to a war zone, make speeches and take photos with the troops IMHO.


48 posted on 11/23/2009 8:36:54 AM PST by leapfrog0202
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To: rottndog

I didn’t see anywhere that Sarah ever had plans to make a speech so I suspect this is political spin and another slam at her.


49 posted on 11/23/2009 8:39:18 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Dacula

Were they afraid she’d criticize Obama in an autograph or in a speech?!


50 posted on 11/23/2009 8:39:43 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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