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Oakland is the 3rd highest crime City in the US, according to new ranking (Camden, St. Louis. 1&2)
SFGate.com ^ | 11/23/09 | SFGate

Posted on 11/23/2009 9:18:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Bad news for Oakland today.

CQ Press has released their annual City crime rankings, and Oakland is even closer to the top of the list than usual.

The rankings are based on the incidence of murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, and vehicle theft in all US cities with more than 75,000 residents. Out of 393 cities considered, Oakland clocked in as the 3rd most crime ridden, topped only by Camden, NJ and St. Louis, MO. Other cities joining Oakland in the top 10 include Detroit, MI, Flint, MI, New Orleans, LA, Birmingham, AL, Cleveland, OH, Jackson, MS and Memphis, TN.

The past few years have seen Oakland playing musical chairs with St. Louis, Camden, and Detroit at the top of the list, ranking 4th in 2007 and 5th in 2008. Oakland's defenders are generally quick to dismiss the list, either questioning its methodology or claiming the City is just doomed to sky-high violent crime because of its demographics.

In their rush to repudiate the rankings, they tend to forget that Oakland's place at the top of the list is actually a relatively new phenomenon. Between 1998 and 2004, Oakland never even made it into the top 20 highest crime cities.

Former Oakland Police Chief Wayne Tucker had, to my mind, the most disturbing response to the rankings, when he called Oakland's 4th-place finish in 2007 "deceptive," because crime is concentrated in "two reasonably small areas."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: camden; crime; oakland; stlouis
Oakland and toss in Richmond and San FRancisco and Salinas. All run by dem regimes with big hearts.

Gangs have turned them all into killing zones. Age knows no immunity from the bullets.

1 posted on 11/23/2009 9:18:08 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Wonder how many of these are “sanctuary” cities?


2 posted on 11/23/2009 9:21:27 AM PST by Kimberly GG ((Come On Sarah - NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP & ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT))
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To: NormsRevenge

Wonder if these cities (Camden, NJ and St. Louis, MO. Other cities joining Oakland in the top 10 include Detroit, MI, Flint, MI, New Orleans, LA, Birmingham, AL, Cleveland, OH, Jackson, MS and Memphis, TN) are run by Democrats and Minorites???

no connection /soff


3 posted on 11/23/2009 9:26:12 AM PST by ktw (kakatte koi)
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To: Kimberly GG
Yup. defenders of social justice.

and then there was this..

so young.. and on his birthday

Man killed in Oakland on birthday

4 posted on 11/23/2009 9:26:40 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: Kimberly GG
Oakland's defenders are generally quick to dismiss the list, either questioning its methodology or claiming the City is just doomed to sky-high violent crime because of its demographics.

I'm just guessing crimalien gang members are a large demographic and demonrat constituency group.

5 posted on 11/23/2009 9:27:17 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: NormsRevenge

...I can tell you why Baltimore is on the list...it’s because black DEMOCRATS began to legally sieze power over three decades ago....since then they have demonstrated their capacity to govern.


6 posted on 11/23/2009 9:27:31 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: NormsRevenge

I believe that it was last year.......truckers were going to refuse to go into Oakland. They need to do this again and close down the city. The only problem is that the people will go else where. They really need to close this city down and put a fence around it. If those people want to live like animals, treat them like animals.


7 posted on 11/23/2009 9:31:42 AM PST by RC2
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To: NormsRevenge

No shocker here... Urban Democrats tend to be far more tolerant of blight and crime than people in the suburbs. You can always tell when a bunch of Democrats from the city move out because quality of life always goes into the toilet when they start voting.


8 posted on 11/23/2009 9:33:31 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Kimberly GG

>> Wonder how many of these are “sanctuary” cities? <<

Not so many. The percentage of African-Americans in the cities’ populations is the overwhelming explanatory variable.


9 posted on 11/23/2009 9:37:27 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Kimberly GG
Wonder how many of these are “sanctuary” cities?

Out of the top ten cities listed, Oakland is unique in that it does not have an enormous black ghetto (it still has one, it is just small).

For the other nine cities, the crime is coming from american citizens and they are mostly black. Illegal immigration has little or nothing to do with the crime there.

10 posted on 11/23/2009 9:38:12 AM PST by staytrue
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To: STONEWALLS
.I can tell you why Baltimore is on the list...it’s because black DEMOCRATS began to legally sieze power over three decades ago....since then they have demonstrated their capacity to govern.

Ditto for Cleveland. Same for all the other cities but Flint, I think where they just elected a white Republican mayor this year after the "early retirement" of a corrupt white Democrat.

11 posted on 11/23/2009 9:38:52 AM PST by Kenton
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s actually kinda strange about the “reporting” dynamic. Houston would be at the top of the list but for some reason, the City can get away with massive under reporting of crime. Of course, every couple of years or so, the FBI comes in to do an audit and slaps HPD wrists about “mis-reporting” but by then, it’s all history anyway. Their biggest help in this ruse is the local newspaper which only covers the most outrageously pulbic type crimes; I have to I suppose because of the large number of witnesses. We hear gunshots every week; but the “clean up crews” that make up the remnant of HPD come out and scrub up the area before anyone much knows what happened.


12 posted on 11/23/2009 9:47:27 AM PST by glide625
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To: glide625

The underreporting goes on everywhere.


13 posted on 11/23/2009 9:53:44 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: NormsRevenge

14 posted on 11/23/2009 9:58:20 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: ktw

We’re number Nine!!!
We’re Number Nine!!!
We’re Number Nine!!!

Jack-cough.... errr... I mean Jackson, MS is definitely minority run 90%.
In fact, the city just elected the previous do-nothing mayor, after taking a chance with newly elected do-nothing.
Last month, the city council, finally came to the conclusion, “we ain’t got no money”... after pissing away its rainy day funds over the last 5 years.


15 posted on 11/23/2009 10:33:01 AM PST by MS_Steve
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To: WOBBLY BOB
I'm just guessing crimalien gang members are a large demographic and demonrat constituency group.

Oakland, West Richmond, East Palo Alto, Pittsburg (yes, that's how it's spelled), and South San Francisco have been predominantly black since World War II. Bay Area latinos concentrate in San Jose, Watsonville, and Salinas.

16 posted on 11/23/2009 10:33:10 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I live in downtown Oakland. Not long ago I walking on the sidewalk on 14th Street at around 11:30pm towards home when two 15-year-oldish black girls were walking towards me, talking trash, trying to intimidate me. One of them was carrying a large hammer! At the last minute they walked right into my path. I had to step away at the last second to avoid running into them.

I totally ignored them cuz they were itching for a confrontation with anyone. And who knows what else they had besides a hammer.

And then there were the January riots where I could see burning cars from the bedroom window.

Oakland is getting progressively worse. Businesses closing. More people wandering the streets. It really is a battle between thugs/gangs and their enablers at city hall, and law abiding citizens.

17 posted on 11/23/2009 10:42:53 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: staytrue

“Out of the top ten cities listed, Oakland is unique in that it does not have an enormous black ghetto (it still has one, it is just small).”

It doesn’t HAVE an enormous black ghetto. It IS an enormous black ghetto. Though, if you really look at it, Richmond is Oakland’s ghetto.


18 posted on 11/23/2009 11:12:02 AM PST by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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To: MS_Steve
I wonder how far the ten million dollars a year that goes to the Black Democratic Caucus from the tobacco settlement would go to help the black college's funding there in Mississippi? I hear a lot of blacks screaming about the budget deficit but no one complaining about the tobacco hush/payoff money going yearly to the Ms Black Democrat Caucus. Jackson is a cesspool because it is demographically an Obama voting entity.
19 posted on 11/23/2009 11:45:44 AM PST by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: NormsRevenge
In their rush to repudiate the rankings, they tend to forget that Oakland's place at the top of the list is actually a relatively new phenomenon. Between 1998 and 2004, Oakland never even made it into the top 20 highest crime cities.

I dispute this part of the article. Maybe they didn't make the top 20 in those days in this survey, but Oakland has been a crime ridden hell hole since I can remember, along with Richmond, SF and other Bay Area cities.

20 posted on 11/23/2009 2:49:56 PM PST by calex59
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To: staytrue

For the other nine cities, the crime is coming from american citizens and they are mostly black. Illegal immigration has little or nothing to do with the crime there. “

Really? How many of the other nine cities is a sanctuary city and how do you know that illegal aliens have little or nothing to do with the crime in them?


21 posted on 11/23/2009 2:50:49 PM PST by Kimberly GG ((Come On Sarah - NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP & ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT))
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To: NormsRevenge

Oakland: CA, ME, MD, IL, FL, KY, AL, AK, CT, DE, GA, LA, MA, or... which?


22 posted on 11/23/2009 6:56:27 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: staytrue

Camden has a large number of Hispanics; I believe they’ve had a Hispanic mayor as well. I think the worst case scenarios is large numbers of both blacks & Hispanics (as opposed to an even larger number of just one group), because the violence between the two is incredible.


23 posted on 11/23/2009 7:19:03 PM PST by Carlos Martillo II (Guernica was a work of art...and I don't mean the painting.)
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