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SCANDAL! "This is Not A Smoking Gun" - It's a "Mushroom Cloud"
Americans for Tax Reform ^ | Monday, November 23, 2009 | Tim Andrews

Posted on 11/23/2009 11:09:47 AM PST by U of IL Conservative

"This is not a smoking gun, this is a mushroom cloud" - That's how world-renowned climatologist Patrick J. Michaels described revelations contained in a 61Mb ZIP file that shows the systematic attempts by climate "scientists" to lie, manipulate evidence, and go to extraordinary lengths to stop the publication of any information or data which did not support the man-made global warming theory. As Andrew Bolt puts it, this scandal could well be “the greatest in modern science”.

In this leaked files are 1079 emails and 72 documents that thoroughly expose the lie underpinning Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth". Remember this, as Congress tries to ram the job-killing economy-destroying multi-billion-dollar-tax-hike called "cap & trade" down our throats - that it is all based on a lie, and this lie is being exposed....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; climategate; corruption; cruhack; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hadleycru; lies; scandal; science
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This is a major scandal, which could finally blow the lid off of the "global warming" hoax!!

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1 posted on 11/23/2009 11:09:48 AM PST by U of IL Conservative
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To: U of IL Conservative

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2 posted on 11/23/2009 11:10:23 AM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: U of IL Conservative

It could blow the lid off of Global Warming.

But it probably won’t.

Just think: they have convinced people that there would be NO ICE at the North Pole at the end of 2008.

And when it didn’t materialize, people still believed them.

It is going to be an uphill battle.


3 posted on 11/23/2009 11:12:23 AM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: GOP Poet
“There is no army as strong as an idea whose time has come.” Now is the time for debunking global warming. Great post.
4 posted on 11/23/2009 11:16:54 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: U of IL Conservative; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; ...
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FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



5 posted on 11/23/2009 11:17:07 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: U of IL Conservative

It seems the mushroom cloud is being treated like the unknown silent fart in church so far.


6 posted on 11/23/2009 11:17:47 AM PST by 1776 Reborn (Test kids and politicians (bigger idiots) on the Constitution!)
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To: U of IL Conservative

This is extremely important. Global Warming is dying a slow death but it will die because it is not based on science but instead a false belief. You can only tell so many easily disprovable lies before people stop believing you. It is like the Polar bear video talking about how they are threatened with extinction by global warming. Not only was it wrong the polar bear populations are bigger and more widespread but it didn’t stop the radical Warministas from trying to trick everyone with cute poor defenseless polar bears. Not this this will stop them because they are conintuing to push draconian regulations and silly “carbon” tax ideas as a remedy to their imaginary warming. It almost like a return to savage superstition. The only difference is that an increasing number of “scientists” have helped build and defend what is no more than a modern mythology.


7 posted on 11/23/2009 11:18:13 AM PST by Maelstorm (Party like it's 1776)
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To: Tzimisce

I’m afraid you’re right. Anyway, the indoctrinated generation doesn’t the facts, they want a cause, any cause, if it can give them a quick ego boost and feeling of “self-esteem” and superiority, with no real effort required. Many things have contributed to this, including the push for unearned “self-esteem” in the schools. The truth doesn’t matter, all that matters is “the cause”, any cause, and how it makes them feel, and what power over others they can potentially gain from it.


8 posted on 11/23/2009 11:18:59 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: 1776 Reborn

Hey, c’mon, don’t tell anybody I did that, OK?


9 posted on 11/23/2009 11:20:40 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: U of IL Conservative
The lead in today's Seattle Times story entitled Climate Change Speeds Up Since 1997 Kyoto Accord:

"WASHINGTON — Since the 1997 Kyoto international accord to fight global warming, climate change has worsened and accelerated — beyond some of the grimmest warnings made back then."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2010334012_climatechange23.html

They will print the same propaganda over and over and over and over.

10 posted on 11/23/2009 11:22:46 AM PST by jonrick46 (We're being waterboarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: U of IL Conservative

It is not being covered by the Rancid Media and thus never happened. Sorry.


11 posted on 11/23/2009 11:24:32 AM PST by pabianice
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To: U of IL Conservative
It will not be very long before someone calls for a prosecution of the hackers?
12 posted on 11/23/2009 11:29:12 AM PST by Michael.SF. (At least Hitler got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: U of IL Conservative
This is a major scandal, which could finally blow the lid off of the "global warming" hoax!!

While I agree that this is a major scandal and also hope that it does blow the lid off, I'd hope that people would start describing global warming for what it actually is — a scam rather than a hoax. Hoaxes are generally fairly harmless; scams are anything but.

13 posted on 11/23/2009 11:29:58 AM PST by Bob
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To: U of IL Conservative

AS RAHM says:
NEVER LET A GOOD CRISIS GO TO WASTE.

Yes Rahm we know how it works.


14 posted on 11/23/2009 11:30:52 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: U of IL Conservative

Well you can bet Glenn Mark Rush and Fox news will not let it die

Wonder if Blowhard True Believer O’Reilly will cover it

Or will he label it “Accurate But Fake”


15 posted on 11/23/2009 11:30:58 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Michael.SF.

Already been done.

People calling it “Nixonian”, etc, last week.


16 posted on 11/23/2009 11:31:46 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: U of IL Conservative

Normal people think it’s a scandal, but this won’t bother the democrats one bit. They don’t care if their whole agenda is based on lies supported by lies.


17 posted on 11/23/2009 11:32:10 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: U of IL Conservative
Didn't Algore win the nobel fleece prize?

So many shysters in the world today.

18 posted on 11/23/2009 11:34:40 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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To: U of IL Conservative
And..., after you get through with that info... then view this excellent video documentary -- or -- look at it first... :-)


It’s one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but it’s quite another to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...

THEREFORE..., it’s also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply one video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the one...


The following is an excellent video documentary on the so-called “Global Warming” I would recommend it to all FReepers. It’s a very well-made documentary.

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”

If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link. Information about BitTorrent protocol and BitTorrent clients and their comparison at these three links (in this sentence). Some additional BitTorrent information here and here.

Download it here...
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[This is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size. This link is the information about it, and you have to click the download link to get it on your BitTorrent client software. You'll also find users' comments here, too.]

It’s worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.

Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course..., and also, you can download flash video on a website either yourself or some software doing it.]

Buy it on DVD here...
[this would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...] At Amazon, it seems to be high-priced now and have only a few copies right now.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE

At WAGtv (a UK shop), but don't know about shipping. The price is reasonable, though.
https://www.wagtv.com/product/The-Great-Global-Warming-Swindle-322.html
[And..., some information from WAGtv about this item.]


Also, in split parts on YouTube...

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rGpDMN8lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzFL6Ixe_bo

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNQy2rT_dvU

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dzIMXGI6k8

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GjOgQN1Jco

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHI2GfbfrYw

The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N9benJh3Lw

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Credits (Part 9 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_1ifP-ri58

19 posted on 11/23/2009 11:34:45 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: U of IL Conservative

Glowbull Warming is nothing but a scam to get grant monies. It then morphed into the liberals/Luddites trying to prevent man from using mechanizations their little pea-brains can’t comprehend.


20 posted on 11/23/2009 11:35:28 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: uncbob

I just heard the dude who called Rush and asked what we should think because of the manner in which the information was obtained. Is he for real? These people are at war with us and we are going to start getting a conscience about some leaked emails. No wonder this country is in the trouble it is.


21 posted on 11/23/2009 11:35:44 AM PST by kempster
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To: mrsmel
the indoctrinated generation doesn’t the facts, they want a cause, any cause, if it can give them a quick ego boost and feeling of “self-esteem” and superiority, with no real effort required...The truth doesn’t matter, all that matters is “the cause”

Very well said. Digging for contrary facts, examining the motives of proponents, and the application of critical analysis are not taught in the schools. The so-called "educational system" does not sharpen minds, it dulls them.

22 posted on 11/23/2009 11:35:50 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Tzimisce

“It could blow the lid off of Global Warming.
But it probably won’t.”

I sent an e-mail out to a bunch of friends explaining the find and execution of the lies and deceipt to the public. I also mentioned that they may never hear of it after my e-mail because no news agency will pick it up...so far crickets....what a bunch of wussies!


23 posted on 11/23/2009 11:36:00 AM PST by oust the louse (This Country now has a smelly BO problem.....)
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To: U of IL Conservative

Underground mushroom cloud - will be seen by no one outside the immediate area.


24 posted on 11/23/2009 11:36:43 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: CodeToad

There are several facets and motives of the type of folk that want to believe in AGW.

Some simply hate our consumption habits and want to control them.
Some simply want control for control’s sake.
Some hate the idea that the average person can have as nice a lifestyle as the true old-money wealthy have always enjoyed.

Many more - even some who are genuinely concerned about pollution, yet understand that AGW is a hoax, but a very useful hoax.


25 posted on 11/23/2009 11:39:02 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: U of IL Conservative
Global Warming is now on my list of "things you don't want to discuss with me".

My going-in position is: "It's a fraud. Some people were stupid and fell for it. They were suckers. Smart people like me understood that it was a con game played to export money out of gullible fools. Now we have proof that I was right. Saaaaaaaay: are you currently in the Smart People camp, or are you still in the "I'm-a-Gullible-Fool camp?"

26 posted on 11/23/2009 11:41:34 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Bob

“While I agree that this is a major scandal and also hope that it does blow the lid off, I’d hope that people would start describing global warming for what it actually is — a scam rather than a hoax. Hoaxes are generally fairly harmless; scams are anything but.”

Even this seems a bit weak. Perhaps Global Warming Corruption Scam.


27 posted on 11/23/2009 11:42:10 AM PST by 1776 Reborn (Test kids and politicians (bigger idiots) on the Constitution!)
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To: U of IL Conservative

People should have known the global warming scam was a lie when liberals flocked to the climate change band wagon in droves, but the public is so brow beaten with environmental PC people will say they believe global warming is happening even if they freeze to death while saying it. Liberal lies work because the create guilt, and guilt creates excuses and remorse. Liberal lies work because they create a fear of telling the truth, because truth brings ridicule. It’s good to expose the lie, but most people feel trapped into believing in the warming scam, and change will not come quickly.


28 posted on 11/23/2009 11:44:11 AM PST by pallis
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To: Tzimisce
And when it didn’t materialize, people still believed them.

I had this argument with my in-laws.

Roughly, it was colder than Alaska the last time we got together, and I made the comment that we could use some Global Warming.

Their response? "Colder Temperatures ARE a part of Global Warming. It's very likely to get colder."

So now, colder = warmer, I guess. How do you argue with true believers?

29 posted on 11/23/2009 11:47:08 AM PST by wbill
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To: wbill
So now, colder = warmer, I guess. How do you argue with true believers?

1984 is here!

30 posted on 11/23/2009 11:49:27 AM PST by jslade (People that are easily offended OFFEND ME!)
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To: U of IL Conservative

This is truly horrible. How can we be against global governance if we use purloined data to debunk their “science”?

It really would be better to live under a global tyrannical government than to use this to free ourselves, our children and posterity.

Hacking is such a horrible crime against humanity!


31 posted on 11/23/2009 11:49:46 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Abolish the IRS, income tax, the 16th amendment and the Federal Reserve. Replace them with nothing.)
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To: 1776 Reborn

how about “fraud”?


32 posted on 11/23/2009 11:50:39 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Abolish the IRS, income tax, the 16th amendment and the Federal Reserve. Replace them with nothing.)
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To: wbill
I have found that, when talking to libs, their belief system is like a religion. They simply have FAITH in the elites, that they have all the best intentions and the ability to make the best decisions, regardless of what others observe. It's like everything else Satan does, take something good and twist it.

Romans 8:28
And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

Leftist sheep version:
And we know that in all things the elites in power work for the good of those who trust them, who have been voting to keep them in power.

33 posted on 11/23/2009 11:51:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Michael.SF.
It will not be very long before someone calls for a prosecution of the hackers?

Yeah, here on free republic.

34 posted on 11/23/2009 11:52:36 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Abolish the IRS, income tax, the 16th amendment and the Federal Reserve. Replace them with nothing.)
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To: kempster

Liberals had no problem with Daniel Elsberg stealing the Pentagon Papers


35 posted on 11/23/2009 11:57:02 AM PST by uncbob
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To: wbill
So now, colder = warmer, I guess.

I tell people I have one of those new stoves -- you put a kettle on to boil and in no time at all a skim of ice forms on the surface. When the ice is pretty solid, your water is hot enough for tea.

36 posted on 11/23/2009 12:02:09 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: U of IL Conservative

bookmark


37 posted on 11/23/2009 12:03:14 PM PST by silverleaf (Ours is the only country on earth with a ventriloquist dummy for President)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
You win the gold star. I wish people would start to recognise that "blowing the lid off" any lie perpetuated by the left which advances their agenda, will not even slow them in their tracks. When we do that, we are ascribing to them the same morality and belief in ethics which we have-and they just don't. Ethics were thrown overboard by them a while back as excess weight, and "truth" is relative to a leftist-it's whatever means accomplishes their end. We are always trying to fight a battle with them that isn't the same they're fighting, and we'll always lose in the long term by doing so. I don't know what the answer is, because I don't want to be the kind of people they are--amoral and without principles. Especially as a Christian. And it begins to appear that the only way to fight them is with their own weapons and on their own terms, by jettisoning our principles and morals. Where will that leave civilisation?

We can't even get the people on our side consistently, all the years of indoctrination and entitlements of bread and circuses have done their job well.

The left didn't just begin this war with Hussein, they laid the groundwork for it decades ago. (Even centuries ago, if you believe as I do that their father is the devil). We've been dealing with them as political opposition, because that's the shape into which they shifted while necessary-but it's not now, after a numbed and sedated population, to which is added every kind of entitlement voter and "victim" group that can be imagined, and some we couldn't have imagined.
38 posted on 11/23/2009 12:03:36 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: jonrick46

Well there you are. It’s not even a blip on their radar screen, and it certainly won’t be one to the people in general. The only ones who would care are too busy belonging to the collective by supporting “the cause”. Facts don’t matter, because they feel so good and they “belong”.


39 posted on 11/23/2009 12:08:55 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: All

follow and retweet #climategate on twitter. get the word out to as many people as possible.


40 posted on 11/23/2009 12:14:44 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Tzimisce
As I predicted here in the third week of October, the Arctic ice extent dropped below the record 2007 level on November 6th 2009; it remains now at the 2007 line and is fixed by a warm current on the eastern edge of the pack by a persistent standing wave trough still to bring foul weather in northeast Europe, Scotland, the U.K., etc.

A very similar pattern occurred between 1905-1920 but has since been mostly forgotten.

Back then it was weather, today it is catastrophic climate change.


41 posted on 11/23/2009 12:15:31 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: wbill

I remember i the late seventies they were scaring me as a 1st or 2nd grader that we were going to freeze to death.


42 posted on 11/23/2009 12:15:56 PM PST by 09Patriot (You can take your change on down the road and leave me here with mine)
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To: 09Patriot

Yeah well when I was a little type we were scared to death with Giant Spiders, Praying Mantis, Crabs (yes crabs).
Nuke stuff.


43 posted on 11/23/2009 12:18:24 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: U of IL Conservative
For the leftists, truth is perception:

Over 100 icebergs drifting to N.Zealand: official
Mon Nov 23,2009
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091123/ts_afp/australianzealandantarcticaclimateiceberg

Warming’s impacts sped up, worsened since Kyoto
By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein, Ap Science Writer – Mon Nov 23, 2009
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091123/ap_on_sc/sci_climate_09_post_kyoto

But, the TRUTH come out on Page five of this Published Letter to Michelle and Barack Obama from Jim and Anniek Hansen in December 2008 (Goddard Institute for Space Studies chief - James Hansen) :

Excerpt:

The most effective way to achieve this is a carbon tax (on oil, gas, and coal) at the well-head or port of entry. The tax will then appropriately affect all products and activities that use fossil fuels.

Excerpt2 (even includes Malthusian population control):

The public will support the tax if it is returned to them, equal shares on a per capita basis (half shares for children up to a maximum of two child-shares per family), deposited monthly in bank accounts.

Excerpt3:

A carbon tax is honest, clear and effective. It will increase energy prices, but low and middle income people, especially, will find ways to reduce carbon emissions so as to come out ahead.

And, finally, the icing on the cake:

Excerpt4:

“Cap and trade” generates special interests, lobbyists, and trading schemes, yielding non productive millionaires, all at public expense. The public is fed up with such business. Tax with 100% dividend, in contrast, would spur our economy, while aiding the disadvantaged, the climate, and our national security.

Source Link:

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2008/20081229_DearMichelleAndBarack.pdf

Of course Cap and Trade will pass this thuggish administration, since they need to rape the people they supposedly represent.

44 posted on 11/23/2009 12:19:37 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: wbill

Give them the book 1984 for Christmas. Maybe they never read it or heard of it. That would be fun.


45 posted on 11/23/2009 12:21:39 PM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: U of IL Conservative
These sleezeball “scientist's” and their co-conspirators should be in prison.
46 posted on 11/23/2009 12:23:39 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Audit the FED NOW!)
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To: U of IL Conservative

The media sends 11 “investigators” to fact-check Palin’s book but gives algore a total pass. That is a scandal in itself.


47 posted on 11/23/2009 12:25:47 PM PST by zeebee (Ask a teenager now, while they still know everything.)
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To: Starboard

“the cause”

The cause is cash from a gullible public, congress....being manipulated by conniving crooks...


48 posted on 11/23/2009 12:32:36 PM PST by mo
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To: U of IL Conservative

For most of the world, it never happened.


49 posted on 11/23/2009 12:49:04 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Barak Obama - a man who turns a blindeye to Islamists murderers.)
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To: Tzimisce
And when it didn’t materialize, people still believed them.

Not exactly.
The American Reality Show Morons (ARSM) hadn't even the dimmest memory of it having ever been mentioned before...

50 posted on 11/23/2009 12:51:05 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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