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Congress May Probe Leaked Global Warming E-Mails
CBS ^ | 11/24/2009 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 11/24/2009 2:38:39 PM PST by vbmoneyspender

A few days after leaked e-mail messages appeared on the Internet, the U.S. Congress may probe whether prominent scientists who are advocates of global warming theories misrepresented the truth about climate change....

In addition to e-mail messages, the roughly 3,600 leaked documents posted on sites including Wikileaks.org and EastAngliaEmails.com include computer code and a description of how an unfortunate programmer named "Harry" -- possibly the CRU's Ian "Harry" Harris -- was tasked with resuscitating and updating a key temperature database that proved to be problematic. Some excerpts from what appear to be his notes, emphasis added:

I am seriously worried that our flagship gridded data product is produced by Delaunay triangulation - apparently linear as well. As far as I can see, this renders the station counts totally meaningless. It also means that we cannot say exactly how the gridded data is arrived at from a statistical perspective - since we're using an off-the-shelf product that isn't documented sufficiently to say that. Why this wasn't coded up in Fortran I don't know - time pressures perhaps? Was too much effort expended on homogenisation, that there wasn't enough time to write a gridding procedure? Of course, it's too late for me to fix it too. Meh.

I am very sorry to report that the rest of the databases seem to be in nearly as poor a state as Australia was. There are hundreds if not thousands of pairs of dummy stations, one with no WMO and one with, usually overlapping and with the same station name and very similar coordinates. I know it could be old and new stations, but why such large overlaps if that's the case? Aarrggghhh! There truly is no end in sight... So, we can have a proper result, but only by including a load of garbage!


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climategate; globalwarminghoax; hadleycru

1 posted on 11/24/2009 2:38:39 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: CottShop

Take a look here about what the CRU’s in-house programmer says about the underlying data. Wow!


2 posted on 11/24/2009 2:40:05 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

that’s not a smoking gun...

its a mushroom cloud

(credit some previous blogger for the analogy)

Global Warming has gone nuclear

HA HA

and its finally on CBS....can you believe it?


3 posted on 11/24/2009 2:42:19 PM PST by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Oh yeah. This ‘probe’ will take about the same time to get started as it took the Great Ditherer to surrender in Toilet-stan.


4 posted on 11/24/2009 2:42:22 PM PST by kromike
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To: vbmoneyspender

Congress May Probe Leaked Global Warming E-Mails

MAY?? MAY?? MAY??

MAY DAY???


5 posted on 11/24/2009 2:43:02 PM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Wooo hoo... get the tar and feathers ready for Gore and Soros. I always felt John Coleman (Weather Channel founder) said it best, as he has been calling it a scam since the beginning.


6 posted on 11/24/2009 2:49:34 PM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Congress May Probe Leaked Global Warming E-Mails

The Pelosi/Reid congress? Shirley you jest.

7 posted on 11/24/2009 2:50:51 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: sodpoodle
Screw Congress. This belongs in civil court. Misuse of government funds. Malfeasance; failure to perform on a valid contract; failure to respond to FOIA requests; attempted and/or unlawful destruction of official documents; etcetcetc.

For once I'm hoping some hardhitting lawyers show up with the bone in their teeth.

8 posted on 11/24/2009 2:51:46 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: catfish1957
get the tar and feathers ready for Gore and Soros.

It will be someone else's fault, just give them time.

9 posted on 11/24/2009 2:54:18 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: umgud

... and don’t call me Shirley


10 posted on 11/24/2009 2:55:27 PM PST by clamper1797 (Would you hold my hand ... If I saw you in heaven ... to my angel in heaven)
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To: vbmoneyspender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; ...

Ding ding ding ding ding ding...PING!!!


11 posted on 11/24/2009 2:58:24 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: vbmoneyspender

LOL! But the sorry bastards can’t probe ACORN?

Another frakin waste of taxpayer money.


12 posted on 11/24/2009 3:01:59 PM PST by cranked
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To: vbmoneyspender

Congress see’s a gold mine in Global warming. I dont believe for one second that they really care ,one way or the other except to pass their scam taxes.


13 posted on 11/24/2009 3:02:40 PM PST by Venturer
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To: hinckley buzzard
Screw Congress. This belongs in civil court. Misuse of government funds. Malfeasance; failure to perform on a valid contract; failure to respond to FOIA requests; attempted and/or unlawful destruction of official documents; etcetcetc. For once I'm hoping some hardhitting lawyers show up with the bone in their teeth.

Would love to see some of those government employees (NASA's James Hansen primarily) lawyer up and take the fifth. Would be very fitting. See the link:

"Climate Gate" Development: CEI Files Notice of Intent to Sue NASA (Paging James Hansen!!)

14 posted on 11/24/2009 3:03:21 PM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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To: vbmoneyspender

A shift in tone. First few days CBS and others were dwelling on those “russian hackers”, those criminals who broke into the databasse. Now they admit it may have been a leak and stress “leak” over and over in this article.


15 posted on 11/24/2009 3:05:04 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: vbmoneyspender

Now if only our Government-run media (CBS, NBC & ABC NEWS) would cover it. Oh, that’s right.. They’re busy bringing down another Republican senator, they can’t be bothered with a global hoax with TRILLIONS of dollars tied to it.


16 posted on 11/24/2009 3:05:20 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: hinckley buzzard

If the UK prosecutes - the only US opportunity to officially expose & stop this Gore Global Warming nonsense would be through the clout of Congress.


17 posted on 11/24/2009 3:05:36 PM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: Venturer

You’re missing the important part of the article — i.e. the admission of the CRU’s in-house programmer that their underlying temperature data is junk.


18 posted on 11/24/2009 3:06:46 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender
I first read this like congress was probing the leaked data as a crime - like looking for the hax0rs - and thought, isn't CRU in the UK?

but maybe I am on the right track...

19 posted on 11/24/2009 3:07:13 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: SierraWasp
Senator Imhofe said he was going to try and get an investigation....going...Dems will try to do a coverup or change it's direction....

See this thread for background info:

The Missing Hotspot ---The ‘Hotspot’ is crucial to the climate debate.

20 posted on 11/24/2009 3:12:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: CedarDave

Oh,...good,...been out doing errands and hadn’t seen that.


21 posted on 11/24/2009 3:15:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SierraWasp
More from the programmer

One thing that's unsettling is that many of the assigned WMo codes for Canadian stations do not return any hits with a web search. Usually the country's met office, or at least the Weather Underground, show up – but for these stations, nothing at all. Makes me wonder if these are long-discontinued, or were even invented somewhere other than Canada!

Knowing how long it takes to debug this suite - the experiment endeth here. The option (like all the anomdtb options) is totally undocumented so we'll never know what we lost. 22. Right, time to stop pussyfooting around the niceties of Tim's labyrinthine software suites - let's have a go at producing CRU TS 3.0! since failing to do that will be the definitive failure of the entire project.

Ulp! I am seriously close to giving up, again. The history of this is so complex that I can't get far enough into it before by head hurts and I have to stop. Each parameter has a tortuous history of manual and semi-automated interventions that I simply cannot just go back to early versions and run the update prog. I could be throwing away all kinds of corrections - to lat/lons, to WMOs (yes!), and more. So what the hell can I do about all these duplicate stations?...

22 posted on 11/24/2009 3:16:45 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

“As far as I can see, this renders the station counts totally meaningless. It also means that we cannot say exactly how the gridded data is arrived at from a statistical perspective - since we’re using an off-the-shelf product that isn’t documented sufficiently to say that. Why this wasn’t coded up in Fortran I don’t know - time pressures perhaps? Was too much effort expended on homogenisation, that there wasn’t enough time to write a gridding procedure? Of course, it’s too late for me to fix it too. Meh.”

Notice how easily the author slipped in ‘homogenisation’; for those of you who don’t know, this is where they take regional data and adjust it to their designated station reading; for those ex-military or survivors of dorm blasts, it’s like mixing Jack Daniels, Heaven Hill, sweet vermouth, tequila, Ripple and Everclear in the same water cooler.


23 posted on 11/24/2009 3:17:27 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: sodpoodle

The startup money for the CRU as I understand it,....came from our Government.....so there may very well be some things that can be done....


24 posted on 11/24/2009 3:19:21 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: sodpoodle

The startup money for the CRU as I understand it,....came from our Government.....so there may very well be some things that can be done....


25 posted on 11/24/2009 3:19:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All

damn,...sorry about the double post...not sure what I did to cause that.


26 posted on 11/24/2009 3:22:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Screw Congress. This belongs in civil court.

In that case, may I suggest New York.

27 posted on 11/24/2009 3:25:52 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier (If you don't know where you're going ...any road will take you there.)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

Yes, New York. I understand Holder is guaranteeing convictions & executions.


28 posted on 11/24/2009 3:40:18 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: historyrepeatz
They’re busy bringing down another Republican senator, ...

Which one? Ensign of Nevada?

29 posted on 11/24/2009 3:48:17 PM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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To: SeaDragon

ping


30 posted on 11/24/2009 4:01:20 PM PST by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: vbmoneyspender; WL-law; Fractal Trader; Beowulf; Genesis defender; markomalley; scripter; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

31 posted on 11/24/2009 4:10:37 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

The chappies at East Anglia have a long record of assiduously applying Finagle’s Invariable Constant.

Their climate model predicted that summer rainfall in the Central Sahara was the same as in Northern Ireland!

Google the ITV video titled “The Greenhouse Conspiracy”.

It is a superb deconstruction of the anthropogenic global warming premises and theory.

Also, Google “The Greening of Planet Earth” produced by teh Western Fuels group.

I used both in my teaching programs for both Dade County students and teacher continuing education courses. These videos are excellent education tools. Alas, when the enviro-commies in the Dade County teachers union found out I was not an enviro-socialist, things got nasty.


32 posted on 11/24/2009 4:11:52 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: historyrepeatz

****Now if only our Government-run media (CBS, NBC & ABC NEWS) would cover it***

Too busy following Levi Johnston - important dontchyah know!


33 posted on 11/24/2009 4:34:10 PM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: vbmoneyspender

wow, thanks for posting htis- IF CBS is covering htis, then perhaps this will finally be exposed and kill the GW nonsense once and for lal


34 posted on 11/24/2009 5:14:11 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CedarDave

“Would love to see some of those government employees (NASA’s James Hansen primarily) lawyer up and take the fifth. Would be very fitting. See the link:

“Climate Gate” Development: CEI Files Notice of Intent to Sue NASA (Paging James Hansen!!) “
^^
Also—I’ve been wondering about various dept. heads at the universities where these scam-artists-researchers were/are working. And other higher-ups in the university system here in the States( and in the U.K., etc). Were they all sleeping on the job?
Or in on the global fraud?
Or something in between...


35 posted on 11/24/2009 6:33:35 PM PST by hyperconservative (Heartfelt humble thanks to the Great Whistleblower @ CRU!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Hear Ye, Hear ye, come one come all——see the greatest lie on Earth, investigated by Inhofe.

Hoping Inhofe will be Indareface


36 posted on 11/25/2009 7:19:36 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (The Obamanistas' are out to GIT YOU , and get you they will)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
"Hoping Inhofe will be Indareface"

I hope he pounds their f---in faces. (farcin faces that is)

37 posted on 11/25/2009 7:52:21 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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