Skip to comments.Doug Hoffman's will not press for recount in NY 23
Posted on 11/24/2009 6:10:11 PM PST by SeattleBruce
Today, Tuesday, November 24, 2009, it is with a heavy heart that we declare this election over. We will formally end this election and not ask for a recount. This was a difficult choice to make because so many people have put their faith, hope and aspirations into our campaign.
Yes, there seem to have been many vote counting problems, missed vote counts and, as was recently reported by the Gouvernour Times, software problems in the computerized voting machines. Despite these incidents, I do not believe the voters of NY-23, or New Yorkers in general, would be well-served by a disruptive and costly recount that would most likely not change the election outcome.
I know many are disappointed and even angry. To those I say now is not the time to look back, but to focus on the future and ensure that next year we win back this district decidedly. Know this decision was not an easy one. I did not want to let down those who worked so hard, donated so much and shared their enthusiasm for retaking our country with common-sense conservative values.
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What was the final count?
Hoffman should push for a recount, just to be annoying.
Hoffman needs more seasoning. What a shame.
Typical 21st century Republican.
Hoffman should push for a recount, just to be annoying.
Hoffman needs more seasoning. What a shame.
What’s he trying to be nice for? What kind of an era does he think we live in - the 50s? Perhaps, in a way, he does. But heck, even my Mom, is not very nice about politics these days. We need to recognize that we’re in for the fight of our national lives. We’re fighting for our nation’s SOUL.
This is why the Democrats will always beat us. They fight to win, while we walk away because we don’t want to have our clothes torn.
It takes money and the typical 21st century GOP isn’t about to help a filthy conservative win.
The ultimate fault lies with the Republicans who refuse to make corrections to the fraudulent voting system when they had the Congress and White House. I don’t know about you, but when I see someone claiming to be honest refusing to address massive cheating after they rise to power to do something about it, I put that down to being of the same ilk, not wanting to end something they intend to take advantage of at some future opportunity. By enabling, the pubbies are just as scummy.
This is why the Democrats will always beat us. They fight to win, while we walk away because we dont want to have our clothes torn.
Hoffman notwithstanding, I think there are a LOT of us that are no longer taking things nicely sitting down.
Ya’ know, the votes belong to the voters, not the candidate. The votes should be counted regardless of how gracious a candidate wants to be.
Doug Hoffman will re-load for 2010.
The GOP better investigate and prosecute the “irregularities” in the voting process for 2010.
(On that second point: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! WHO AM I KIDDING! THE BUSH/DELAY/LOTT - ERA GOP WON’T DO A DAMN THING!!!!!!)
Fraud wins again, and the cowardly Republicans bend over and grab their ankles.
If we fail to monitor all future elections, we and this country are finished.
Read before fuming.
DECISION DELAYED: Conservative candidate for 23rd District promises he will reveal his plans today
By JUDE SEYMOUR
TIMES STAFF WRITER
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2009
Conservative Party candidate Douglas L. Hoffman passed his self-appointed deadline Monday without declaring whether he'd challenge results in the 23rd Congressional District race.
Robert H. Ryan, Mr. Hoffman's spokesman, said the candidate would announce his decision today. He would not say what Mr. Hoffman's intentions were.
Rep. William L. Owens, D-Plattsburgh, leads the race by 3,397 votes, with 628 absentee ballots left to be counted, according to unofficial results. Mr. Owens led, according to unofficial election night results, by 5,335 votes, but a recheck of the machine vote in the 11-county district put the gap at 2,864 votes. The Democrat has added 533 votes during counting of absentee, emergency and affidavit ballots, which started Nov. 17.
Mr. Owens now has 72,711 total votes, or 48.3 percent, with Mr. Hoffman at 69,314 votes, or 46 percent. Republican Dierdre K. Scozzafava, who suspended her campaign three days before Election Day, has 8,619 votes, or 5.7 percent.
County elections boards must send results to the state elections board by Friday. The state board will certify the results at its Dec. 15 meeting.
Doug Hoffman is right... let it go and tank up resources for 2010.
Hoffman team should now focus guns blazing with plenty of ammunition in the campaign to take out that fraud Owens next year.
I’ve learned from watching. I’m sure word has come down that he isn’t going to get any help from the GOP. He’s out of the spotlight and the GOP is free to brush him aside.
Sure they might make noises about supporting him in the future but when it comes down to it he’ll be challenged by a well funded hand picked NRCC lapdog.
Do you Eeyores realize that this seat is up again next year? Owens has already broken his promise not to support Obamacare, and Hoffman is going to run as a Republican.
Notice what happened in WA State in 2004 and MN in 2008? How can we prevent such? Not by playing nice all the time. I think that’s what’s causing people’s anger, not the exact specifics of this race - which, as you point out, are important.
There’s some pretty stinky stuff that happened in NY 23 and in those aforementioned races. How do we DEAL with that longer term?
Well, the problem is that Hoffman already conceded. Had he not done so he would have won.
In your post the truth prevails. Thanks.
I think he made a good call because it is unlikely he will win, and more importantly, he will have to fight the battle all by himself as he was not a GOP candidate. It is better than he keep his reputation intact and win it next year instead of getting into a fight in the gutter. Remember that the gutter is home ground for the RATS.
Pubbies, planning to take advantage of voter fraud at some future opportunity?
LOL! I doubt it.
About NY-23, if Hoffman knows about voter fraud, he should pursue it. He shouldn't shrug it off.
There are far better candidates than Hoffman in that area. He was not in the top 3 of potential candidates this time around. He did a hell of a job as the Conservative principled candidate, but we can do much better in 2010.
Democrats would we have to play by their rules count recount and count again until you win!
Well, he may as well give it up. We all know that the longer the ‘Rats are allowed to re-count, and re-count and re-count...the worse it gets for our side.
BUT - let this be a lesson to us all. They can’t CHEAT when we have a commanding lead in a race! Any race; from local Dog Catcher on up. :)
Git Bizzy! 2010 is right around the corner. Pick your picks for local races in 2010 and start sending them cash and start giving them your volunteer hours. It works! I’ve done it myself. :)
One hint, though: If your state Supreme Court is stacked with Liberals, work on THAT first. We managed to tame the beast by getting TWO Conservative judges on the WISC in the past election cycle (it was not easy!) and it has made a BIG difference in many instances when the LibTards brought a bogus cases all the way to our state SC.
Thank you, Triple-E! See my post #28.
Yeesh! These quitters! Really! Gawd! Dang! LOL! :)
So I ask, why didn't the repubicans do something about it when they were in power, if they didn't plan on cheating with the same tools in the future?
That's true, but I feel compelled to point out that this is not the system of government envisioned by the Founders. We have today an electoral system that essentially requires one party to amass a significant super-majority, not a simple majority, to attain office, and another party simply attain a close election in order to "win". That is not elective representative democracy. While we should make decisive victories our goal, we should not be content with that being the standard by which elections are decided. We have to fight fraud wherever it occurs, and be prepared to contest it at all levels, especially in the public forum, because we won't get a fair shake in the media or the courts.
Perhaps it would cost money that could better used to fund next year’s campaign. He already has a good start. His opponent broke several campaign promises within 1 hour of taking office.
It’ll be easier — and probably faster — to just prepare for a run for the seat next year. Why drain resources recounting with little hope for success?
Exactly, and there will be a Republican primary, not a smoke-filled room, to decide the Republican candidate.
"Perhaps it would cost money that could better used to fund next years campaign. He already has a good start. His opponent broke several campaign promises within 1 hour of taking office."
Exactly right. Hoffman is keeping his powder dry. He is a nationally known candidate now, has the support of key big names in the GOP (Palin and Pawlenty), is still seen as "being wronged" by the NY and national GOP, and therefore is in a perfect position for major fundraising. The fundraising advantage alone will make it difficult for any other Republican to mount a primary challenge to Hoffman.
His opponent got in with less than 50% of the vote, and is not representing the wishes of his district.
This should be a slam-dunk pickup in 2010.
Another ACORN theft.
Yeah, okay, whatever.
This result was inevitable - he didn’t want to win badly enough. He should not be a candidate again.
“...because we won’t get a fair shake in the media or the courts.”
And that’s specifically WHY I addressed citizens of each and every state work on their SC elections.
And screw the MSM. Who watches them? The Big Three networks’ ratings are in the tank.
People are overwhelmingly watching FNC, which isn’t completely without it’s libs, but dang! The numbers don’t lie. We are strong. People holding Conservative Values ARE the majority. We just have to get them up and off the couch. ;)
FNC 1,385,000 viewers
CNN 376,000 viewers
MSNBC 372,000 viewers
CNBC 194,000 viewers
HLN 265,000 viewers
P2+ Prime Time
FNC 2,848,000 viewers
CNN 520,000 viewers
MSNBC 825,000 viewers
CNBC 129000 viewers
HLN 520,000 viewers
Hoffman is playing this about right. Conduct yourself in a manner that doesn’t play into your opponent’s next campaign by appearing as a whiner (leave that to the dims). By staying above the fray, he’ll set himself up in 11 months to win the race outright and come out looking more statesmanlike. The vote totals had plateaued and he risked coming across like a sore loser, but by raising the suspicion of an election that wasn’t completely on the level, he’s holding all of the cards for 2010.
I disagree entirely. First of all, he didn't run as a "Republican". So they have nothing to do with this. He ran on the "Conservative" party ticket.
Sometimes you can lose a battle but still win the war. He darn near won even though his name was somewhere on the ballot wedged between the Green party, the Socialist party or the KEG Party candidate and people had to find his name to vote for him.
This was a special election. Libs...See you next time and prepare for your ass beating. He's taking the classy high road until then.
The GOP has no standing in this case because Hoff was not the gop nominee. It would be like your brother suing for you to divorce your wife. Your brother has no legal standing for suit. Only Hoffman and the conservative party of NY has legal standing to challenge the election.
And what was it about Hoffman that was supposed to make him so different than the other Republicans?
The republican party can not sue. Only the conservative party of NY can sue. It would be like the USA communist party challenging the 2004 election when Kerry and the democrats did not.
Conceding and congratulating the presumed winner is a courtesy and a nicety in politics.
If Hoffman would not have conceded, he would still be behind and he would still lose because he has fewer votes. Don't make something more complicated than it needs to be.
... not in the top 3 potential candidates? As per who?
There was no primary, the candidate was picked by Republican County Chairmen!
Hoffman never looked like he was going to make up a 3000 plus vote deficit.
He looked silly in ‘unconceding’ after ‘conceding’ before.
9/11’s BEAMER = “Lets Roll” BEAMER’s Dad = “Regime Change USA/2010-2012” .