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Posted on 11/24/2009 11:23:37 PM PST by neverdem
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So......does this mean we’re not all gonna die?? ;^)
[Swans get boat ride]
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A Very good article. I like it because it is one of the very few that I have seen that really deals with the code. I hope there are many more.
City officials keep the winter pond from freezing over just for the swans and make sure they have enough to eat
They got to keep the pond from freezing over.
(So they can run their swan concentration camp)
More like swan welfare!
So the tree ring data after 1960 doesn’t match real temperature measurements. But apparently that didn’t stop these guys from using tree ring data as a source of global temperatures for before and after 1960. A reasonable person would question the usefulness of tree rings in determining global temperatures, since the period for which we have the most real data does not correlate well.
But if you’re a global warming fanatic, the tactic is to continue to use the tree ring data, and just falsify the post-1960 tree ring data by substituting real temperature measurements. Obviously, the older tree ring data is useful to them in making some other point. Perhaps making the medieval warming period disappear?
If I understand correctly what’s going on here, these guys need to be drummed out of the science community. And they should go to jail. The social impact of these liars has been tremendous. Hopefully, Copenhagen is a dead meeting now.
If only MSM would will not give this revelation of the hoax the props it deserves. Still, and in spite of the disingenuous MSM, more & more folks in the middle are becoming aware of the truth.
No. It's time to dissolve the IPCC and stop funding every organization that is promoting AGW. The game's over.
I especially enjoyed the “fudge factor.” That’s a surefire way to make a graph look the way it should when the data won’t cooperate.
This is by far the best analysis of the data so far and the most damaging argument for the case that these shysters have taken part in one of the greatest conspiracies of all mankind.
Enough already, has this been reported to the FBI?
Who is the correct federal agency if not?
They have had Federal Grants and Contracts with the Federal Government and lied to Congress and others.
Has this been reported?
I have dropped this in the hopper for the FBI, but I would hope the authors would go down to the FBI and sit down with an agent.
This is getting beyond news stories.
Tree rings have to be significantly affected by rain fall, temperature and CO2 levels. I suspect they don’t have a good way of untangling the various factors into accurate individual components.
So they just make stuff up...
Yeah, I think I can understand that. It's like when a Mafia loan shark comes to collect the “vig” and says he's going to break legs. What he really means is that a strongly worded letter is going to be sent to the credit bureau.
Nothing untoward, eh?
Thank you very much for the post. I finally get to resurrect all of my years of F77 education. There is much more in this code that I am slugging through. BTTT!
Watch this space:
"Does this mean we can have our incandescent light bulbs back?"
...is going to become the rallying cry that helps drag this swindle into the light of day.
And yes, it is a swindle- a fraud-- a deliberately designed construct intended to cheat you out of things you hold dear-- money, prosperity, freedom... and a few other things, as well.
...Watch this space...
I'm keeping a running file ( always updated ) on this fraud and scandal:
"Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked [epic fraud?]"
Click the picture:
They’re had. Even though there will be die hard warmers, including that SOB in office, the electorate is catching on. I want every school who insisted on showing the Goreacle’s crockumentary to review this material. Spread the word.
It depends on which "real temperature measurements" they chose. Remember, the balloon and satellite temperature data also show either no warming or only a very slight warming. The ONLY contemporary temperature data that actually shows warming are those from the land-based weather stations, and that has already been show by McIntyre to have significant problems.
So it may actually be the case that the tree-ring data really DOES match real temperature measurements, and both sets show no warming.
Perhaps CRU's next major publication should be entitled "The CRU Cookbook: 100 Fudged Recipes That Will Warm Your World."
Petition the Law Makers to Stop this Scam
Its time to put this rest
The IPCC did their best
But no one is buying their BS
CO2 Lags Temperature
The ice has shown
The Hot Spot in the Atmosphere ran off with the Heat in the Oceans
And cant be found
Hockey Stick is Broken and the MWP is UP Side Down
The 60s were warmer than 2009. The trend line is against us The Team thundered
Then they sliced and diced until its under.
They said the debate was closed.
And they control the Journals you know
They hid the data with a frown.
If found out, The Team goes down
The Teams goose cooked like they cooked the Books.
Theyre no better than the Eron Crooks.
Theyll say they did it for prestige and pride
And, of course, a big slice of the money pie
So, make your case CO2, that Evil Gas, Rules the Climate if you can
Or declare CO2 a non pollutant
And take it out of EPAs Hand
Petition the Law Makers to Stop this Scam
I’ve read on this very website, within the last two years, that the computer models are flawed. Now we have incontrovertible proof.
Yada,yada, yada. One thing you can always count on the left to do is pretend that their words don't mean what they say. Its so childish !
(You who search for my stuff, and you know who you are: Be sure to read this.)
That is another perspective. You make a good point.
Among the e-mails released in the recent scandal are a couple from a plant specialist expressing his concern to, I think it was Phil Jones, about the use of tree rings to measure temperatures. He was saying that tree rings are affected by several factors and he doubted that you could separate those effects to determine how much was due to temperature. Apparently, Jones never responded to his e-mails.
The things in this American Thinker piece are either facts or they are not. It's pretty easy to see why so many people are able to live in an alternate reality with their smug attitudes of superiority when they continue to trust the NYT to deliver the news to them.
I did a search just at nytimes.com for CRU. Several articles from past days do show up. All except two appear to be associated with "blogs." Maybe these other two were in the printed paper during past days, but if they were my guess is that they were buried someplace were a newsreader might likely miss them.
Has anyone noticed that wikipedia is pretty much devoid of mention of the CRU file release? No mention of it on the current “Hadley Centre” page. After being put in with a reference it was edited out. Ditto for Michael Mann’s page. The page “Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research File Release Incident” has been deleted altogether. Phil Jones’ page does mention it, but downplays it at the same time.
hide the decline, hide the incident, hide the truth.
Probably nothing. In Gore's defense, he appears to be exceptionally stupid.
The tree ring data (cherry picked from tree rings that didn’t support their hockey stick, from trees in the Ural Mountains) was used to dispose of the “inconvenient” Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age.
Well, I've never studied up on how they determine temps using tree rings. I thought it was something like measuring the O16/O18 isotope ratio, which ought to be pretty independent of other factors.
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Methinks it’s a bit late for somebody out there. Dam’s plumb broke on this deal, and the enviroweenies are all running for the boats.
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I found the reference which discussed the tree rings:
Near the bottom of the article, there are two e-mails from a “environmental plant physiologist” named Don Keiller.
Here is one of them:
“Dear Professor Briffa, my apologies for contacting you directly, particularly since I hear that you are unwell. However the recent release of tree ring data by CRU has prompted much discussion and indeed disquiet about the methodology and conclusions of a number of key papers by you and co-workers.
“As an environmental plant physiologist, I have followed the long debate starting with Mann et al (1998) and through to Kaufman et al (2009). As time has progressed I have found myself more concerned with the whole scientific basis of dendroclimatology. In particular;
1) The appropriateness of the statistical analyses employed
2) The reliance on the same small datasets in these multiple studies
3) The concept of “teleconnection” by which certain trees respond to the “Global Temperature Field”, rather than local climate
4) The assumption that tree ring width and density are related to temperature in a linear manner.
“Whilst I would not describe myself as an expert statistician, I do use inferential statistics routinely for both research and teaching and find difficulty in understanding the statistical rationale in these papers. As a plant physiologist I can say without hesitation that points 3 and 4 do not agree with the accepted science.
“There is a saying that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof”. Given the scientific, political and economic importance of these papers, further detailed explanation is urgently required.”
Can I use a ‘fudge factor’ when I balance my checkbook? If so, I’ll never be overdrawn.
Ye flippin' gods! Any grade-school educated farm boy could tell these guys that this is a ridiculous assumption. If this is what they're using, then I would trust their data not at all.
Might be better to contact Scotland Yard rather than the FBI since these emails originated out of a university in England. I don’t think the FBI has much jurisdiction there.
The EMails showed what I was already certain about.
This analysis of the code is the wooden stake in the heart of this vampire.
What concerns me is the tons and tons of data that has NOT yet been made public. There clearly is much code and data that is MISSING from this 198Mb data dump.
What other smoking guns and article massagings have been done by these “elite” Climatati??????
They had government contracts and grants, I am pretty sure they do or another federal agency.
Back in the ‘70s I used to do this kind of manipulation with water quality data; they ain’t foolin’ me!