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Gettinng worried? Anti-Obama column from NYT/Dowd(warns he faces "less than certain" relelection)
The New York Times ^ | 11-25-2009 | Maureen Dowd

Posted on 11/24/2009 11:33:19 PM PST by jeltz25

Only a year after he had helped Barack Obama get elected by eviscerating his close friend, Clinton White House colleague and Yale Law School classmate, Hillary Clinton, Craig was himself eviscerated by the Obama inner circle.

Writing in Politico, Elizabeth Drew called it “the shabbiest episode of his presidency,” saying that it had caused people who had helped Obama rise to question whether he would behave in as classy and non-Clintonian a fashion as they had hoped.

It is especially puzzling given that Obama faces tough midterms and a less-than-certain re-election — and given that we all now know someone on the unemployment line. (A new poll shows Obama and Sarah Palin neck and neck among independents, but then it is a Fox survey.)

Bill Clinton may not have cared any more about contributors than Obama does, but he was such a talented politician that he made them feel as though they were in “a warm bath,” as one put it.

Obama is more like a cold shower.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: 2012; clinton; dowd; obama
Fairly strong column. Not so much on policy, but more on what a cold fish Obama is. How he basically shows no loyalty, tosses "friends" aside at first blush, uses people to get ahead and then totally abandons them at the first sign of adversity. How he doesn't care about people and basically makes no effort to make them feel liked or wanted, unlike the gregarious and charming Bill Clinton(or W, I'd add).

Mainly about this Greg Craig guy and how he went all out for Obama and sold out the woman he had known and was good friends with for 35 years to help him get elected. How he turned his back on a couple who had made his career and without whom he'd be nothing all to help Barack Obama...and Obama totally threw him under the bus.

How he showed similar loyalty to Caroline Kennedy.

She's on point with this. Just look. Craig? Gone. Van Jones, Anita Dunn, Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, Khalidi, etc... As long you can help Obama you're ok. the minute you become a liability to him and his power personally? Goodbye. No pat on the back, no wristwatch, nothing.

And she mentions how some donors may be getting upset and they know Obama is going to come calling pretty soon expecting the cash, buttering them up for the money. But now that they've seen him in action, things may be a bit different.

But the real piece de resistance is at the end. She writes that he faces "a less than certain reelection". Now, Maureen Dowd is no Einstein, but she is a very good barometer of conventional wisdom, maybe the best. If she writes it, there's a good chance that that's what the folks in DC and especially in the dem establishment are thinking.

Some of those donors and supporters upset at the Craig firing and wary of his upcoming fundraising no doubt spoke with her.

So if she's warning about a less than certain reelection, before Thanksgiving of his first term, that's a pretty good insight into how certain folks see things. Some people are starting to get worried.

1 posted on 11/24/2009 11:33:20 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
but she is a very good barometer of conventional wisdom, maybe the best

huhn???
2 posted on 11/24/2009 11:39:30 PM PST by outlawjake
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To: outlawjake

LOL, yep.

That said, the only time I’ve made it through a Dowd column since ... ?


3 posted on 11/24/2009 11:41:48 PM PST by Carling (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: outlawjake

conventional wisdom, as in what the DC/NY crowd is thinking. the establishment view of things. Basically, what people would be saying if you went to some party in Georgetown with the in-crowd.


4 posted on 11/24/2009 11:43:58 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
Murine Dowdy will have guaranteed employment throughout the eight years of the Palin presidency, if the NYT doesn't go belly up first, of course!
5 posted on 11/24/2009 11:46:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: jeltz25

ok that makes sense.. yea, she inhabits those crowds..


6 posted on 11/24/2009 11:48:09 PM PST by outlawjake
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To: Carling

I will give her this. She was one of the first dems/liberals to realize what a total sleazebag Bill Clinton was and not buy into the trashing of Monica(turn her in to a crazed stalker)that Hillary and the WH organized.

She seems to at least have a good read on someone’s personality, especially how aloof and cold Obama is.

It’s basically a DC gossip column, but from someone who actually knows what’s going on, at least as far as the personal relationships go.


7 posted on 11/24/2009 11:48:09 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
but then it is a Fox survey

This is why I don't read the NYT.

8 posted on 11/24/2009 11:55:51 PM PST by BAW (million - billion - trillion - broke.)
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To: jeltz25

Bet Maureen isn’t invited to tonight’s White House party.


9 posted on 11/24/2009 11:58:02 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: jeltz25

You contrast this with Palin’s refusal to abandon MI after the McCain campaign wrote it off. Breaking with the McCain campaign she visited the state forcing McCain to follow her. Despite the fact McCain did lose the state during the election, the GOP supporters in the state were impressed by her. She does not see her supporters as a means to win and then be discarded. If she was a soldier, she nevers leave her fallen or wounded buddies behind. Obama would.


10 posted on 11/25/2009 12:02:58 AM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The irony about all the media dislike of Palin is that I’d bet just about anything that if she and McCain had won the NYT and other outlets would be making more money today than they have under Obama. TV networks like MSNBC and CNN would have higher ratings.

People are always asking how can we save the Newspaper business or how can we get higher ratings.

While the editorial board wouldn’t like it, I’d think the bean counters in the accounting depts at the NYT, WaPo, NBC, CNN, etc... would be just fine with a Palin Presidency. Probably jumping for joy.


11 posted on 11/25/2009 12:03:58 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
Fairly strong column. Not so much on policy, but more on what a cold fish Obama is. How he basically shows no loyalty, tosses "friends" aside at first blush, uses people to get ahead and then totally abandons them at the first sign of adversity. How he doesn't care about people and basically makes no effort to make them feel liked or wanted, unlike the gregarious and charming Bill Clinton(or W, I'd add).

Now they should check the description of a narcissistic personality, and then they can apologize the conservatives who have been correct all along.

12 posted on 11/25/2009 12:07:45 AM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: BAW

Although, I give her credit for that. That FOX survey wasn’t really publicized at all. To find out about it she either had to be watching FOX or going to their web site, browsing FR where I think it was mentioned(probably not likely, but who knows?), or going to some pro-Palin web site where it was mentioned.

Whichever one she did. it’s way more research than any other msm reporter would do. It shows me that at least she’s looking at various sources and not just living in some Obama-cocoon. You’d think a poll like that would have been flushed 1984-style down the chute.

I’m honestly surprised someone in the NYT would even mention that. Now it will be exposed to a much greater audience.

I can’t imagine the WH is too happy with this story. I wonder if they’ll add her to the enemies list just below Beck and Hannity?


13 posted on 11/25/2009 12:10:58 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: highlander_UW

I was thinking the same thing!

NPD!!!


14 posted on 11/25/2009 12:12:11 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: highlander_UW

Reading about Craig almost makes you feel for Bill and Hillary. Some of their closest friends totally sold them out. And Bill Richardson? Bill Clinton made Bill Richardson. He’d be nowhere without him. I’m picturing Slick kissing him if they ever meet and saying “I know it was you, Bill. You broke my heart”


15 posted on 11/25/2009 12:13:15 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
" Just look. Craig? Gone. Van Jones, Anita Dunn, Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, Khalidi, "

Gone from public view but very much influencing the Hussein administration.

yitbos

16 posted on 11/25/2009 12:23:42 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: jeltz25

Shocking! 15 posts in a Mo Dowd thread and no pictures of CZJ.


17 posted on 11/25/2009 12:25:17 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (a wild-eyed, exclusionist, birther religio-beast -- Daily Kos)
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To: taxesareforever

Maybe this is her revenge for being snubbed.


18 posted on 11/25/2009 1:07:43 AM PST by Ronin (Better an avowed enemy in front of me than a potential traitor beside me. NO RINOS!)
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To: jeltz25

One thing Bolsheviks LOVE to do is induce someone to betray his old friends, or principles, whatever. Then, when the betrayal is complete, and the betrayer proudly turns to the Bolsheviks for his reward, they stab him through the heart, or he gets a bullet in the face, or he gets shoved out a window.


19 posted on 11/25/2009 1:21:15 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: jeltz25
I will give her this. She was one of the first dems/liberals to realize what a total sleazebag Bill Clinton was......

Yes, I remember this well. Mo's history with men is that, in the end, they all end up embarrassing her. This split with Obama was predictable.

I believe the potential for being embarrassed is what is behind Obama's steep poll drop among libs and independents, especially among females.

20 posted on 11/25/2009 2:01:32 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: jeltz25
Writing in Politico, Elizabeth Drew called it “the shabbiest episode of his presidency,” saying that it had caused people who had helped Obama rise to question whether he would behave in as classy and non-Clintonian a fashion as they had hoped"

Amazing, or probably not, what it takes to pop the pink balloon of these elitists. One their own, parched and abused sitting in the back of a cabinet meeting. Shabby? How about flying off to Copenhagen to huckster for his Chicago buddies real estate investments with the Olympic bid? How about partnering with AARP/ United Health Care to redistribute medical care as a political plum? Or with the AMA to work against the physicians they can't really claim to represent? Or for the UAW against security holders at Chrysler complete with threats to them personally for resisting? Or firing "confused" IG Walpin for blowing the whistle on Americorps ? Or his Kenyan brother living on $1 /day, or whatever it is ; or his public housing aunt? Or accepting a Nobel prize that he had in no regard any right to, over nominees far more deserving, or even needy; probably unconstitutionally as well, as a foreign emolument? Or his plan to hand over sovereignty, and certainly prosperity of the American people through the upcoming falsely motivated Copenhagen Climate summit? Shabby is his method.

21 posted on 11/25/2009 3:04:49 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: jeltz25

RATS are finding out that their party is mostly communist.


22 posted on 11/25/2009 3:17:48 AM PST by Waco (Stay as bootiful as ya are Karvile.)
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To: outlawjake
"How he basically shows no loyalty, tosses "friends" aside at first blush, uses people to get ahead and then totally abandons them at the first sign of adversity. How he doesn't care about people and basically makes no effort to make them feel liked or wanted...."

If the accounts of Obama's parents are true and their relationship with Obama, the above comment could describe them as well. It's not untypical for a child who has been abandoned/neglected by parent(s) to not know what true loyalty is.

Nevertheless his behavior is no excuse. And before he rose this far to power, it's unfortunate that not more had discerned this character flaw in him. Our society's worship of star personalities and so-called celebrities is a detriment that could cause way too much damage before people wake up and realize that character truly does count.

23 posted on 11/25/2009 3:21:39 AM PST by TruthSetsUFree
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To: jeltz25
Amazing this ignorant gossip columnist nevers asks nor answers Why? What could be looming that would cause the firing of White House Counsel and his deputy, and hiring his personal lawyer as White House Counsel? Maybe the upcoming Blago trial?
24 posted on 11/25/2009 4:22:59 AM PST by 03A3
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To: jeltz25
"Bill Clinton may not have cared any more about contributors than Obama does, but he was such a talented politician that he made them feel as though they were in “a warm bath,” as one put it".

"Obama is more like a cold golden shower"

25 posted on 11/25/2009 4:23:24 AM PST by Mac from Cleveland ("See what you made me do?" Major Malik Hasan)
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To: jeltz25

Conventional “LIBERAL” wisdom, that is. Which can be useful to observe but not to be confused with the real thing.


26 posted on 11/25/2009 4:44:03 AM PST by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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To: jeltz25
How he basically shows no loyalty, tosses "friends" aside at first blush, uses people to get ahead and then totally abandons them at the first sign of adversity. How he doesn't care about people and basically makes no effort to make them feel liked or wanted

The spinster Dowd has a point in this paragraph, but it shows he obviously treats others the way his mother treated him, leaving him with others to pursue her self interests

27 posted on 11/25/2009 4:51:17 AM PST by Citizen Soldier ("You care far too much what is written and said about you." Axelrod to Obama 2006)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Shocking! 15 posts in a Mo Dowd thread and no pictures of CZJ.

No kidding!

I always look forward to a MoDo thread for the pics.

28 posted on 11/25/2009 5:34:08 AM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: jeltz25

” but she is a very good barometer of conventional wisdom...”

Nope. She’s a good barometer for the liberal/Marxist New York city crowd. If she’s seeing trouble for king obuma amongst the syphilitic bed-wetting poodle crowd, then I’d say he’s is in trouble with his honkey big city base. He’s already in deep trouble in real America. If his support with his black slave base goes below 75%, obuma is unelectible.

Nonetheless, a borderline interesting article.


29 posted on 11/25/2009 5:47:19 AM PST by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: wayoverontheright

I always thought this was something Gov Palin should have said in her convention speech or at the debate.

That women know what it’s like to have the smooth talking guy at the bar whisper in their ear, tell them what they want to hear. The guy who looks great and is so well dressed, who knows all the right things to say. Tells them how pretty they are. How too many have fallen for it and the next thing you know you wake up alone, in bed, with a note on the bureau saying “thanx for the gr8 nt, call u soon”. And we all know how that turns out. Something along those lines.

Hopefully women are beginning to wake up and have just read the note.


30 posted on 11/25/2009 9:29:26 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: Ronin

However, it looks like she could have gotten in without an invitation. Bet she’s kicking herself now. :)


31 posted on 11/27/2009 10:56:16 AM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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