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Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist
Fox News ^ | 11/24/2009 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 11/25/2009 8:55:22 AM PST by Paige

Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackwater; civiliancontractors; courtmartial; fallujah; gwot; iraq; lawyers; military; navy; politicallycorrect; rowanscarborough; specialforces
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1 posted on 11/25/2009 8:55:23 AM PST by Paige
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To: Paige

Somebody call Mitch Rapp.


2 posted on 11/25/2009 8:57:00 AM PST by immadashell
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To: Paige

This may be the final straw....


3 posted on 11/25/2009 8:57:04 AM PST by refermech
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To: Paige
It's only war with an enemy that wants us all dead.

Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt now would we?

4 posted on 11/25/2009 8:57:37 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: Paige

One method of protecting military personnel in instances like this is to Court Martial them. Once they are found innocent and released, civilian courts cannot put them on trial again. This has been going on for many years. I wouldn’t worry to much about it but it is worth watching.


5 posted on 11/25/2009 8:57:58 AM PST by RC2
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To: Paige; navysealdad; Squantos; river rat; hiredhand; archy; CodeToad; Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ...
I guess the SEALs haven't paid enough in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I have no words to describe what I feel.


6 posted on 11/25/2009 8:58:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Paige

the administration obviously wants to prosecute CIA operatives that were too mean to men that killed thousands of americans, and now they are doing the same to the military.

. . . and if a SEAL had “roughed up” a prisoner, he would have MUCH more serious problems than a fat lip. hell, he would be lucky to have lips at all.


7 posted on 11/25/2009 9:01:07 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forums.stink-eye.com)
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To: Paige
The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7.

If I recall correctly, the U.S. Navy was attacked once before on December 7.

Of course, TAHT attack was by foreign enemies - THIS one is being perpetrated by enemies within.

8 posted on 11/25/2009 9:01:07 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: RC2

I hope and pray that your explanation is the correct one in this case.


9 posted on 11/25/2009 9:02:18 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS

December 7th 1979 was the day I graduated from BUD/S Class 105. We’re having our 30th Anniversary party in Las Vegas next week. This is SURE to come up.....


10 posted on 11/25/2009 9:03:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: WayneS

I know this was the case when I was in the Navy. For instance......If a Marine guard at the brig had to shoot an escaping prisoner, the Marine would be Court Martialed, fined .50 cents for the bullet and rewarded with a carton of smokes for doing his duty. This was done to keep the parents of the shot prisoner from bringing a law suit against the Marine. Sounds a little crazy but it worked.


11 posted on 11/25/2009 9:06:51 AM PST by RC2
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To: Paige

This is what happens when you try to criminalize war and let the lawyers call the shots. We are a completely insanely ran society. These same lawyers wouldn’t lift a finger if they were air dropped on the front lines to do the soldiers job. What a way to cripple our armed forces and make sure they can’t do anything without getting a blessing from the legal counsel. Can you imagine if we fought WW II in this manner?


12 posted on 11/25/2009 9:07:13 AM PST by Gen-X-Dad
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To: Paige

I’ve emailed my congressman and two worthless senators protesting this, but I’m not expecting much, if anything, from them. This is a travesty!


13 posted on 11/25/2009 9:07:45 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: refermech

I think that our military gets this ‘message’ loud and clear. It’s past time for a housecleaning of Biblical proportions. I will actively support and participate in such a scenario.


14 posted on 11/25/2009 9:11:06 AM PST by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: Paige
unbelievable
15 posted on 11/25/2009 9:12:19 AM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: Travis McGee

“I have no words to describe what I feel.”
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So much seems to happen every day now
that only a few years ago would have been unthinkable.
I find I am not shocked or amazed by anything anymore.
I fear that I am growing numb to it all.


16 posted on 11/25/2009 9:12:51 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Travis McGee

This is so unspeakably vile that it beggars the imagination. It makes mockery of all that is decent. God speed the Day of Reckoning with these filthy Communist bastards - despite the terrible cost.


17 posted on 11/25/2009 9:12:55 AM PST by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: Paige

SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges,no word from Obama??????????


18 posted on 11/25/2009 9:14:14 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Paige

I understand they were offered a Captains Mast (Article 15), but they turned it down. My guess is that this will never get to trial.


19 posted on 11/25/2009 9:17:23 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: RC2

The SEALS are more than capable of taking care of themselves. They’ll be fine. Also, under UCMJ if you’re on shore duty (for USN), you have the right to demand trial be CM instead of NJP. IMHO this is a wise move on their parts.


20 posted on 11/25/2009 9:19:00 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Paige

I pray for strength for these Navy Seals and their families thru their ‘legal’ ordeal. And i do hope that an alleged busted lip is the least of the captured perp’s worries. I also pray that some sense of justice comes to the families and friends of the Blackwater employees who were brutally murdered, dragged thru the streets, set on fire and then hanged from that bridge in Iraq.


21 posted on 11/25/2009 9:20:51 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Yes: This is the reason I dont buy the allusion that this court martial is to protect the Seals.

They were offered a Captains Mast and they refused it, and asked for the court martial.


22 posted on 11/25/2009 9:22:04 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Travis McGee

Gotta wonder: if the O is he11-bent on crippling our military, he must have a discrete force loyal to him waiting in the wings.


23 posted on 11/25/2009 9:22:09 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Psalm 109)
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To: Paige
I feel like Bill Paxton in Aliens "This can't be hapening, man. This can't be happening".

It was a disgrace what happened to the Marines in Haditha and it is a disgrace what is happening to the SEALs.

This country does not deserve these young men. We are not worthy of them.

24 posted on 11/25/2009 9:22:15 AM PST by MattinNJ (O is going to get his candy ass kicked by a girl. Go Sarah.)
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To: ctdonath2

If that is so, and it comes to pass, two words:

Let’s roll.

I hope it doesn’t, but think and fear it may.


25 posted on 11/25/2009 9:28:03 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Paige

The SEAL need to come to Washington and do their thing


26 posted on 11/25/2009 9:29:47 AM PST by Lexington Green (Fight organized crime: Re-elect no one.)
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To: Paige

The SEALs need to come to Washington and do their thing


27 posted on 11/25/2009 9:30:16 AM PST by Lexington Green (Fight organized crime: Re-elect no one.)
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To: Paige
Seal Team 10. All kia in Afghanistan, except one - Marcus Lutrell.

God bless our Navy Seals.


28 posted on 11/25/2009 9:31:02 AM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: Paige

Protecting Americans is not a high priority for the Obamster, rather protecting the rights of those who would kill us is....


29 posted on 11/25/2009 9:31:37 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: refermech
This may be the final straw....

Most of us are at the ready.

30 posted on 11/25/2009 9:32:31 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: scottdeus12

shouldn’t we not be posting pictures like this?


31 posted on 11/25/2009 9:32:31 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Paige
UNBELIEVBLE!
32 posted on 11/25/2009 9:35:52 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Paige
I hope they beat these phony-ass charges and join with Glenn's newphew and come home.

I'm wondering if Obama's security guard had the occasion to accost someone to protect him, if he would then turn around and prosecute the security guard?

He's probably be like Rosie O'donnell, who hates guns - and thinks you shouldn't be allowed to have one - but her security detail is all armed.

People who subscribe to these double-standards should catch a boat and go start their own country somewhere else.
33 posted on 11/25/2009 9:36:06 AM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: Scythian

Why do you say that?


34 posted on 11/25/2009 9:36:57 AM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: ctdonath2

The Farrakhan Army of Islam.


35 posted on 11/25/2009 9:42:24 AM PST by mcshot (Our White Hut is not made up of the best and brightest, but they are practiced criminals.)
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To: Paige

If i read the article correctly,one terrorist/sadistic mass murderer claims he was punched while in captivity and 3 navy seals who deny the allegation may face court martial?This is a travesty.


36 posted on 11/25/2009 9:43:54 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

They were offered nonjudicial punishment. Since they refused they will automatically receive a courts-martial.

There are other charges such as giving a false statement and obstruction of an investigation.

They may get off of the assault charge but the other charges I’m not so sure.


37 posted on 11/25/2009 9:45:32 AM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: ctdonath2
...a discrete force loyal to him ...

Loyal?

Probably.

Competent?

Not so much.

38 posted on 11/25/2009 9:47:22 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ctdonath2

“he must have a discrete force loyal to him waiting in the wings”

God I pray this is the case! Bring it on BarryO! We are ready for your pantywaste hacks who think they know something about advanced tactics.


39 posted on 11/25/2009 9:49:17 AM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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To: Paige

The one good thing about this sort of incident is that when the “awkward time” is over, it will help military members, if previously wavering, decide which fork of the road to take.


40 posted on 11/25/2009 9:51:12 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: RC2
One method of protecting military personnel in instances like this is to Court Martial them. Once they are found innocent and released, civilian courts cannot put them on trial again. This has been going on for many years. I wouldn’t worry to much about it but it is worth watching.

They should be given medals!

Innocent of what?

41 posted on 11/25/2009 9:52:52 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Innocent of mistreating a prisoner under their care. I believe that is one of the complaints. This should be easy to disprove. Seals don’t need medals, they know they are appreciated by the American people.


42 posted on 11/25/2009 9:56:50 AM PST by RC2
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To: Paige
" The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades. Insurgents burned the bodies and dragged them through the city. They hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River for the world press to photograph. "

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber," told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.

Let's review...

four Blackwater agents were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades... burned the bodies and dragged them through the city... hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River...

Ahmed Hashim Abed...had ... bloody lip ...

Oh yea, I fully understand this one now. FULLY.

43 posted on 11/25/2009 9:57:38 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: scottdeus12

Just seems to me that posting pictures of our navy seals is a bad idea, maybe I’m wrong, I don’t know, it’s just seems like something they should protect, their identities and faces?


44 posted on 11/25/2009 9:57:43 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Paige

Are we living in the freakin twilight zone? I mean I am just flabbergasted... Assault? I guess just because it was some Black water mercs he will get off with a light hand slapping. WHAT IS GOING ON??!


45 posted on 11/25/2009 9:59:31 AM PST by crazydad
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To: MattinNJ

Bill Paxton makes that movie what it is.. Well ok the whole movie is great. Best one out of the series of alien movies...


46 posted on 11/25/2009 10:01:29 AM PST by crazydad
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To: PJammers

Merely denying you did it is now enough to trigger false statement and obstruction charges. Don’t read too much into what they are charged with. It is far more useful to look into the motive of the terrorist prisoner. It is exeedingly easy to give yourself a bloody lip if properly motivated. These terrorists train for capture, and know what they need to do to get the .mil to throw charges against their captors. The fact that the higher ups in the military haven’t caught on to this game (even though we have the training manuals the terrorists have produced!) continues to strain credulity.


47 posted on 11/25/2009 10:01:44 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: Paige
The convening authority who preferred these charges is Army Major General Charles Cleveland according to the Navy Times, SEALs charged in alleged assault of detainee .

Here is Maj Gen Charles Cleveland's statement when the Special Ops opened their headquarters this summer, Special Ops Command opens new headquarters

General Cleveland said he hoped members of SOCCENT would look upon their new facility as a "home away from home."

"I know it can't replace your family and all that waits for you back home," he said. "I understand the hardships of serving the nation overseas in a time of war, and I want to publicly thank you and your families for the sacrifices you've made in the name of freedom."


Hey, Maj Gen Cleveland, is this how you thank your men for their service? Shame on Maj Gen Charles Cleveland.
48 posted on 11/25/2009 10:02:13 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Venturer

If they accepted the Captains Mast, they could still be hauled into court. With the Court Martial, they can’t. Wise move on their part.


49 posted on 11/25/2009 10:02:34 AM PST by RC2
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To: RC2
Innocent of mistreating a prisoner under their care. I believe that is one of the complaints. This should be easy to disprove. Seals don’t need medals, they know they are appreciated by the American people.

The question was a rhetorical one.

They are not guilty of anything, so they don't have to show they are 'innocent' of anything.

Listening to the accusations of the man who admitted murdering thousands of INNOCENT civilians is evil.

No, Seals don't NEED medals, the DESERVE them. And the medals are one way Americans show their appreciation for their sacrifice and courage.

50 posted on 11/25/2009 10:04:17 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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