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Obama in a Bind Over Country of Birth
News Blaze ^ | November 25, 2009 | Alan Gray

Posted on 11/25/2009 6:15:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama is in a fix over his country of birth.

The President started to dig the hole as Senate candidate and now he is president, the hole is getting deeper and uglier, mainly because of his evasive actions. Many Democrat supporters are either ignoring the problem or are vehemently attacking "birthers" who question the President's eligibility.

Republicans are not the only ones concerned about his eligibility. Libertarians, independents, constitutionalists and even democrats are wondering why Obama is fighting so hard to hide his origin.

Unfortunately, Obama dug the hole himself, and like a hole created when a water main leaks and then bursts, the hole is expanding day by day and as it does, the fallout is increasing.

The President and his legal teams have done everything in their power to prevent anyone from accessing his real birth certificate, if he has one, but there are other lines of investigation they cannot block.

During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.

So the question now is, was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign, or was he really born in Hawaii, and the Kenya story was a lie, used to deceive Illinois voters.

Obama can't have it both ways. The answer to this question will be interesting!

Of course, he could say the campaign and the reporters all got it wrong, but it will be interesting to follow the trail on this investigation and discover the sources for the AP story that documents the apparent fact that Obama was Kenyan born.

If it wasn't the truth back then, why didn't he stop the campaign using that information and why didn't he make the AP issue a retraction?

Obama supporters who say it is nobody's business, need to take a step back, imagine the president is George Bush and ask themselves the same question they should ask now. "Is it OK for the President to hide his origin and what are his motives for doing it?"

I want there to be a simple, truthful answer to these questions, but I have a strange feeling the answer is not what any of his supporters wants to hear.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; hoax; ineligible; kenyabelieveit; kenyanborn; notpresident; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; soetoro; treason; unconstitutional
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It doesn't seem to matter, though, does it?
1 posted on 11/25/2009 6:15:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No bind at all.

Just admit the truth

Resign immediately

Retire in comfort

And leave us the F alone


2 posted on 11/25/2009 6:17:34 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about a one million dollar reward for anyone that digs it up and exposes the truth?

In fact, add the rest of Zero’s “cleansed” files to that list.


3 posted on 11/25/2009 6:18:46 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead (clean the sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: pissant; ExTexasRedhead; Sparko; trlambsr; True Republican Patriot; 3IDVET; STARWISE; Lumper20; ...
PING!!
4 posted on 11/25/2009 6:19:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course it doesn’t matter. What’s really important is who photographed Sarah Palin’s grandson’s father with his clothes off. Get your priorities straight.


5 posted on 11/25/2009 6:20:42 PM PST by fhayek (Off course its sarcasm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It don’t matter he left, the MSM or the zombies who blindly voted for him. We could produce concrete evidence he is not a natural born citizen complete with video of him proclaiming that he was born in Kenya, Jakarta or on Pluto and it wouldn’t matter.

Facts, The law and honesty ceased to exist tot he RATS when they rallied around Klintoon, the draft dodger, rapist, perjurer and adulterer...


6 posted on 11/25/2009 6:20:57 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama lied???

I could tell because his lips moved.


7 posted on 11/25/2009 6:21:24 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Retire in comfort

Hell he can get a shack next to his Half brother in Kenya. Mark my words, I think he is gonna crack up before this is over and be led from the white house by men in lab coats and be taken to trembling hills for the remaider of his useless and pathetic life

8 posted on 11/25/2009 6:22:31 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Obama can’t have it both ways”

Of course he can. The oba-messiah can do no wrong.

(do I really need the sarcasm tag?)


9 posted on 11/25/2009 6:22:46 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth...”

Does this mean that we will soon see a video tape of Obama touting his Kenyan birth?


10 posted on 11/25/2009 6:23:12 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Question -— when he travels to different countries, do those with him have to carry passports? Does he?


11 posted on 11/25/2009 6:23:35 PM PST by Exit148 (Loose Change Founder. A little goes a long way!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.

This is the first I've heard that he claimed Kenyan birth during the Senate campaign. And I have never seen that claim used by posters on FR, and it seem to me that if it were so, Freepers would be all over it.

If anyone has a credible link, please provide it. TIA

12 posted on 11/25/2009 6:24:00 PM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

We could create a “Where the hell is the communist’s birth certificate fund”.

If we all gave $1 that would be over 10 million.


13 posted on 11/25/2009 6:25:13 PM PST by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A one question poll.

DO NOT MISS YOUR CHANCE TO CAST YOUR VOTE:

Here's the question (multiple choice):

What Is Obama?
a) The worst president in the history of the U.S.
b) The worst president in the history of the world.
c) The cleverest non-native-born con man ever to illegitimately pose as U.S. president.
d) A Marxist.
e) One of the Marx brothers.
f) The sound of some kind of explosion.
g) Something from an old Al Jolson song.
e) All of the above.

14 posted on 11/25/2009 6:25:19 PM PST by Jim 0216
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I think there is already a million dollar reqard for his Hawaiin Birth Certificate

Might as well make it a billion- because they’ll never have to pay


15 posted on 11/25/2009 6:25:56 PM PST by Mr. K (Deathly afraid my typos become a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.”

Citation please.


16 posted on 11/25/2009 6:26:06 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The truth about the global warming hoax has finally seen the light of day, and this hoax will too, someday.


17 posted on 11/25/2009 6:26:35 PM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: dynachrome

Also, everything that would help the economy is anathema to his political philosophy.

He can’t have it both ways.


18 posted on 11/25/2009 6:26:44 PM PST by gura (R-MO)
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To: trumandogz

Can we find any campaign commercials from his senate run?? what year was that?


19 posted on 11/25/2009 6:26:44 PM PST by Mr. K (Deathly afraid my typos become a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t suppose that there is any video out there on the Illinois campaign where he claimed Kenyan birth?


20 posted on 11/25/2009 6:27:04 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some bind LOL. Who is wondering about this?


21 posted on 11/25/2009 6:28:30 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
or was he really born in Hawaii

According to him, he was born in Hawaii twice, at two different hospitals!

22 posted on 11/25/2009 6:28:52 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So the question now is, was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign, or was he really born in Hawaii, and the Kenya story was a lie, used to deceive Illinois voters.

Any hole that is dug, requires some kind of visible "spoil pile" or tailings. Barry's political "hole" has had the spoil pile carted away into a deep landfill, never to be seen again.

It seems his Illinois Senate Office was pushed through a tree-chipper machine (except for his chair which is in a museum). News stories that may have been archived seem to have vanished, and internet searches seem to go nowhere.

Where are his speeches where he states he was born in Kenya? Where are campaign archives? Do any news sources have tapes they are willing to share, or have not destroyed?

His past is hazy, ghostly, vapid, nebulous, etherial, ...phony?, etc.

On the flip side, he was able to uncover and unseal deeply person information to discredit and embarrass his opponents - THAT is in the record.

23 posted on 11/25/2009 6:29:04 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ping for later


24 posted on 11/25/2009 6:29:43 PM PST by pgobrien (Most economists almost unanimously agree...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
We could produce concrete evidence he is not a natural born citizen complete with video of him proclaiming that he was born in Kenya, Jakarta or on Pluto and it wouldn’t matter.
Facts, The law and honesty ceased to exist to the RATS when they rallied around Klintoon, the draft dodger, rapist, perjurer and adulterer ...

Nailed it ...

25 posted on 11/25/2009 6:29:52 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.

Yeah, me too. Citation please.
26 posted on 11/25/2009 6:33:50 PM PST by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: al baby

He should be deported by the INS.


27 posted on 11/25/2009 6:35:52 PM PST by television is just wrong (one big ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign..?

Problem is, we don't have those words from Obama's mouth (do we?) nor, do we have anyone willing to go on record as the source of those Associated Press reports.

It's creepy.

28 posted on 11/25/2009 6:37:25 PM PST by GVnana ("Obama is incredibly naive and grossly egotistical." Sarkozy)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Citation please.

If this information came from a credible source, FReepers would have had all the details long ago.

29 posted on 11/25/2009 6:37:58 PM PST by TChad
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To: al baby

Sorta like this?:

They´re coming to take me away,
Haha, they´re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I´ll be happy to see
Those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they´re coming to take me AWAY,
HA HAAAA


30 posted on 11/25/2009 6:40:50 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

This link may not satisfy, but with a very short search on google I found this. Hardly definitive, but there does seem to be evidence that news reports on Obama cited a Kenyan birth, and it seems that the Obama campaign took no steps to correct that assertion.

http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/AP-declares-obama-Kenyan-born/

Take it for what it’s worth.


31 posted on 11/25/2009 6:41:11 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Oh,no. I want him to go to prison for treason.


32 posted on 11/25/2009 6:43:13 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: TChad
The details have been posted on Free Republic many times. Not everyone find the evidence convincing. But the fact remains that if Obama were born in a Hawaiian hospital (as he has claimed) he could produce a long-form birth certificate. Thsi is something he steadfastly refuses to do.

Why?

33 posted on 11/25/2009 6:44:09 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
We could produce concrete evidence he is not a natural born citizen

Heck, HE'S already done that, when he said Barrack Hussein Obama, of Kenya, is his father. His faked "CoLB" even says that. Presumably the long form does as well.

It requires two citizen parents to be a natural born citizen. It's not the same as a citizen at birth, which IF he was born in Hawaii, he is. If he wasn't born in the US, he's either naturalized, or an illegal alien.

34 posted on 11/25/2009 6:47:59 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Mr. K
B.O. won his senate seat in 2004. This picture is from the Dem Convention in 2004.
Barack Obama and John Kerry at the 2004 DNC

35 posted on 11/25/2009 6:48:20 PM PST by Faith (By the way---where is that birth certificate?)
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To: trumandogz
“During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth...”

Does this mean that we will soon see a video tape of Obama touting his Kenyan birth?


Obama actually did this? He stated he was born in Kenya? First I’ve heard of it. I don’t believe for a minute the man was born here but where is the proof he has stated as such.

36 posted on 11/25/2009 6:49:50 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: Mr. K

...here’s an old AP article if that helps any....it reflects pride in his Kenyan birth.

http://web.archive.org:80/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm


37 posted on 11/25/2009 6:50:31 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Republicans are not the only ones concerned about his eligibility. Libertarians, independents, constitutionalists and even democrats

Except for the Marxist wing of the democratic party aren't we all supposed to be constitutionalists? - Well, ok it is wishful thinking, but still....

38 posted on 11/25/2009 6:51:35 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Mr. K
Can we find any campaign commercials from his senate run?? what year was that?

2004. He didn't even finish his first term. He has no other applicable experience. He's.. well.. a Zero.

39 posted on 11/25/2009 6:53:03 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“This link may not satisfy, but with a very short search on google I found this.”

The Sunday Standard page is the only thing that I have seen.
Remember the number of fake BCs that were touted.
I think some of those were planted by the Obots to embarrass the birthers.
I think even WND is giving up on finding the truth.

I lurk around on the stupid Topix forums.
They have a number of BC threads. The largest one now has
over 67,000 post, consisting of a bunch of children, fools, and morons trading “did to, did nots”.

http://www.topix.net/forum/us/TDBHQ6CAEJ3I3IO7I

Topix has a broad cross section of everything in the world.
I lurk there when I have absolutely nothing to do.


40 posted on 11/25/2009 6:58:40 PM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Daddy Obama is too busy studying Lenin and Marx between boozing as Stanley Ann’s belly swells with child. Unwed and pregnant, she travels to her parents’ Washington State home to give birth but her lefty parents take her to a hospital across the Canadian border. Canada has a secret dossier. Kenya is less likely.


41 posted on 11/25/2009 6:58:40 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It doesn't seem to matter, though, does it?

It's "Don't ask, don't tell" writ large.

No one in authority will ask and our judges have made sure that no regular person can ask, so we can't ask and Obama won't provide his full birth history and documentation.

42 posted on 11/25/2009 7:01:30 PM PST by RJL
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To: patriot08

For such a crime that effects every American citizen, our entire financial system, our national security, our laws, the credibility of our political system and the future of the world... the death penalty should apply to all coconspirators that allowed, assisted in or had guilty knowledge of these crimes against our country.


43 posted on 11/25/2009 7:01:58 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is Americas First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: STONEWALLS

why they spell his name barrack with two R’s in the AP article


44 posted on 11/25/2009 7:02:46 PM PST by chicken head
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Thsi is something he steadfastly refuses to do.
Why? “

You can ask any Obot that question, and all you will hear
is crickets chirping.


45 posted on 11/25/2009 7:04:41 PM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: norge
This is the first I've heard that he claimed Kenyan birth during the Senate campaign

there was a photo of a news story with that in the headline - anyone still got the link?

46 posted on 11/25/2009 7:04:42 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.


47 posted on 11/25/2009 7:05:26 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: STONEWALLS

Oh, that’s rich.


48 posted on 11/25/2009 7:05:36 PM PST by Marie (CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT! IT'S WHAT PLANTS BREATHE!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“So the question now is, was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign, or was he really born in Hawaii...”

.
As long as our congress-critters don’t raise that question it will never be answered — they are part of the conspiracy.


49 posted on 11/25/2009 7:06:08 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As time passes, more and more folks are going to ask the same question. Sooner or later, it will become too much and when the dam breaks, it will be quite the “flood”.


50 posted on 11/25/2009 7:06:44 PM PST by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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