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Tale of Two Creation Films Denied First Amendment Rights on Darwin's Anniversary
ChristianNewsWire ^ | November 25, 2009

Posted on 11/25/2009 7:56:35 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

HUNTSVILLE, AL, Nov. 25 Christian Newswire -- Two creation films called "inappropriate" were denied the opportunity to be shown in government facilities this week--which marks the 150th anniversary of the publication of Charles Darwin's "Origin of Species". While the intelligent design film "Darwin's Dilemma: The Mystery of the Cambrian Fossil Record" has not been granted permission for a showing in California, "The Mysterious Islands", a new 90-minute Vision Forum film that challenges Darwin's evolution by taking audiences back to engage the enchanted Galapagos Islands, has enjoyed a victory and will premiere as previously scheduled tonight, Nov. 25, at 6:30 PM, at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL.

"We want to commend the U.S. Space and Rocket Center ("USSRC") for allowing equal access to its facilities for a private screening of 'The Mysterious Islands' this week," said a jubilant Doug Phillips, executive producer of "The Mysterious Islands". Phillips and his crew--his son Joshua Phillips, Dr. John Morris of the Institute for Creation Research and Jon and Andy Erwin, the award-winning production duo who shot and produced the documentary--have been traveling the country screening the film since its release on Nov. 12, with key members making the trip on the "Galapagos Ark" Tour Bus.

"Knowing that the USSRC was a government facility, we contacted attorneys at the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) for assistance," Phillips continued about legal action that led to the victory. In a letter dated Nov. 23, 2009, Daniel Blomberg, ADF litigation counsel, informed the USSRC executives that their "refusal is in direct violation of Vision Forum's First and Fourteenth Amendment rights," and he highlighted the fact that the USSRC had shown two pro-evolutionary films, "The Magic of Flight" and "Blue Planet", at their facility. The USSRC responded to ADF's letter within hours of receiving it and is now cordially allowing access for a screening of "The Mysterious Islands". Though the film is premiering with short notice in Huntsville, hundreds have already registered to attend at: http://events.constantcontact.com/register/event?oeidk=a07e2mzzpjzfd3e5dcc

"The Mysterious Islands" documents Phillips as he leads a team of Christian scientists and investigators to the Galapagos Islands to engage with the amazing creatures Darwin chronicled during his storied trip to this island chain aboard the HMS Beagle in 1835. Seen through the eyes of 16-year-old Joshua Phillips, who joins his father and noted researchers like Dr. John Morris, "The Mysterious Islands" is the story of one boy's search for answers to a great controversy of the modern world. The fast-paced adventure combines cinematically breathtaking footage with high adventure in its quest is to determine whether the Galapagos Islands are a laboratory for evolution, as Darwinists claim, or a showcase for the biblical account of creation.

Along the way, "The Mysterious Islands" examines intriguing questions that Darwin failed to answer, or that he just got wrong: Why do the animals on these islands appear to have little fear of man? Why have some of the creatures of the Galapagos developed such unusual characteristics--are these phenomena evidences of evolution or something else? Does natural selection produce new kinds of animals, or just variations within the same kinds?

Meanwhile, the fate of the other film "Darwin's Dilemma: The Mystery of the Cambrian Fossil Record" hangs in the balance. The California Science Center (CSC) has not yet reversed its decision to allow a showing at the museum's IMAX Theater. 


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1 posted on 11/25/2009 7:56:37 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...
Surprisingly, I didn't know about the movie "Mysterious Islands" until today. That marks three professionally produced movies exposing Darwin's unscientific creation myth just in time for the 150th anniversary of the Origin of Species. God only knows how many more are out there. Very encouraging to say the least!

Hope everyone has a blessed Thanksgiving!

All the best--GGG

2 posted on 11/25/2009 7:58:34 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

Will the Mysterious Islands be in movie theaters or on the old TV?


3 posted on 11/25/2009 8:01:42 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I doubt it will make it into anything but independent theaters, individually rented theaters, churches, university theaters, etc. The big sales will come from selling the DVD. What I really appreciate is that these movies are getting better and better, rivaling any National Geographic/Discovery film IMHO.

Here’s another awesome movie that just came out. I purchased it not too long ago, and was amazed at how far creationist movies have come:

http://www.thevoyage.tv/


4 posted on 11/25/2009 8:07:23 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Bump!


5 posted on 11/25/2009 8:07:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GodGunsGuts
HUNTSVILLE, AL, Nov. 25 Christian Newswire -- Two creation films called "inappropriate" were denied the opportunity to be shown in government facilities this week--which marks the 150th anniversary of the publication of Charles Darwin's "Origin of Species". While the intelligent design film "Darwin's Dilemma: The Mystery of the Cambrian Fossil Record" has not been granted permission for a showing in California, "The Mysterious Islands", a new 90-minute Vision Forum film that challenges Darwin's evolution by taking audiences back to engage the enchanted Galapagos Islands, has enjoyed a victory and will premiere as previously scheduled tonight, Nov. 25, at 6:30 PM, at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL.

Interesting.

I was not aware that the First Amendment guaranteed the right of All films to be shown at government facilities and I thought that the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL was a government facility.

Nor was I aware that in order to show a film in the State of California, that one had attain permission from the government.

6 posted on 11/25/2009 8:08:31 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: GodGunsGuts

mega dittoes


7 posted on 11/25/2009 8:08:58 PM PST by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: LiteKeeper

:o)


8 posted on 11/25/2009 8:10:35 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Two creation films called "inappropriate" were denied the opportunity to be shown in government facilities this week--which marks the 150th anniversary of the publication of Charles Darwin's "Origin of Species".

"Inappropriate"?

Inappropriate for whom?

What's wrong? Nudity? Foul language? Violence?

Seems like a pretty vague excuse reason they gave.

Or are they now going to try to define *inappropriate*, just like they define *species*, *evolution*, *science*, and *religion*?

This could take years......

9 posted on 11/25/2009 8:15:47 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: trumandogz

Religion is an impediment to Socialism.

So are our current laws.


10 posted on 11/25/2009 8:16:23 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: trumandogz

Thank you for your interest. You can find out more about current evo-censorship of Creation/ID films, and the resulting lawsuits (which will hopefully multiply, if need be), here:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/11/california_science_center_sued.html

and here:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/11/discrimination_against_intelli.html


11 posted on 11/25/2009 8:17:01 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Darwin didn’t write on creation, and didn’t provide a creation myth. He did explain what otherwise requires a combination of special creation and special delivery...

Why were kangaroos found only in Austrailia, and nowhere else?


12 posted on 11/25/2009 8:17:57 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: metmom

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!


13 posted on 11/25/2009 8:18:08 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: trumandogz
I was not aware that the First Amendment guaranteed the right of All films to be shown at government facilities and I thought that the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL was a government facility.

Apparently the rockets are being denied their religoius freedom.

14 posted on 11/25/2009 8:18:54 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“rivaling any National Geographic/Discovery film IMHO”

Except for the Science part...


15 posted on 11/25/2009 8:21:44 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: metmom

How about “error.”


16 posted on 11/25/2009 8:22:42 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: donmeaker
I seem to recall answer this question for you way back when, no? And yes, Darwin's Origins most certainly is a creation myth devoid of macroevolutionary data. All he discovered was minor variations within species/kinds. The rest of his so-called "theory" is nothing more than a "long argument" for evolution on a grand scale (as Darwin admitted, but that his modern day followers refuse to acknowledge).
17 posted on 11/25/2009 8:26:11 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: trumandogz
Much better and more intelligent: And not required to attend are not attend:

http://www.movies.com/movie-trailers/alvin-and-the-chipmunks-2-1311352283/

18 posted on 11/25/2009 8:26:56 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat

http://www.movies.com/movie-trailers/alvin-and-the-chipmunks-2-1311352283/


19 posted on 11/25/2009 8:27:18 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for that link - will definitely check it out!

Evolution (macro-evolution) = a bigger “science” fraud than climategate - and much more damaging in its results.

But BOTH frauds must be fully exposed and debunked = so thank you for all your posts and for those who are working hard to do just that.,,,God bless these efforts!


20 posted on 11/25/2009 8:28:38 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

From the news reports about 1300+ attended.


21 posted on 11/25/2009 8:29:55 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: donmeaker

Don’t you think that you should see the film before you start disagreeing with the science?


22 posted on 11/25/2009 8:32:39 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
But BOTH frauds must be fully exposed and debunked = so thank you for all your posts and for those who are working hard to do just that.,,,God bless these efforts!

Paradoxically, most of the evidence that cyclic global warming is a natural process and not antropgenic is from over 6000 years ago.

23 posted on 11/25/2009 8:34:12 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Ah, I see someone is starting to make certain key connections! I couldn’t agree more!!!


24 posted on 11/25/2009 8:34:41 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: donmeaker
Darwin didn’t write on creation, and didn’t provide a creation myth.

Sure he did. He wrote a creation myth for those who wish to reject God and have a God free world and explanation of how we got here.

He did explain what otherwise requires a combination of special creation and special delivery...

And how do you know he's right? Was anyone there to actually observe the things he speculated on?

25 posted on 11/25/2009 8:35:20 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: count-your-change
Not a bad premier, by any standard! Must aggravate the evos to no end :o)
26 posted on 11/25/2009 8:36:16 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom
“What’s wrong? Nudity? Foul language? Violence?”

If the film had all that there would be no question about showing it, probably rent free.

28 posted on 11/25/2009 8:40:54 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I saw a few stills. Looks like a well done production. It’s one thing to read about the Islands but good photography brings another dimension to the story.

Importantly the opposition to Darwinism can be aired despite the self appointed censors.


29 posted on 11/25/2009 8:50:23 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change; metmom; Freedom'sWorthIt; editor-surveyor; LiteKeeper; UCANSEE2

From the 1300+ premier that C-Y-C referenced above:

The evening opened with a magnanimous introduction by Senator Hank Erwin, who introduced a number of the dignitaries present including Alabama Supreme Court Justice Tom Parker, and was followed by a brief commentary from Doug Phillips who reminded the audience that while “evolutionists, atheists and agnostics around the world of many stripes are celebrating what they believe to be the victory of Darwin on this anniversary night, we are here to proclaim that Jesus Christ is the creator who reigns victorious over the vain speculations of science, so-called.”

http://www.visionforum.com/hottopics/blogs/dwp/2009/11/5861.aspx


30 posted on 11/25/2009 8:51:01 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: count-your-change
Importantly the opposition to Darwinism can be aired despite the self appointed censors.

It's going to be hard to make the case for First Amendment violation if there's nothing stopping you from seeing the film if you want to.

31 posted on 11/25/2009 8:54:18 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: All

Click the link, the place was packed :o)

http://www.visionforum.com/hottopics/blogs/dwp/2009/11/5861.aspx


32 posted on 11/25/2009 9:00:00 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: donmeaker
“rivaling any National Geographic/Discovery film IMHO”
Except for the Science part...

I take most emphatic exception to that statement.
After more than 15 years as a subscriber, I quit the NG when it became clear that it was embracing strange subjects, that were in no way connected to "National" or "Geography;" Certainly not science!
That is was not the only science magazine so afflicted is small comfort.

I have not read a NG in over 15 years, so I have no way of knowing how thoroughly it bought into the "Global Warming" fraud, as just one recent example.

33 posted on 11/25/2009 9:01:56 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

No wonder Charles isn’t smiling.


34 posted on 11/25/2009 9:06:48 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
He looks like Father Christmas...boy did his beard miss its calling!


35 posted on 11/25/2009 9:11:09 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Don’t you think that you should see the film before you start disagreeing with the science?

There are two identifiable groups which will never turn to reason, because their minds are like concrete: all mixed up and permanently set; The sexual perverts and the abortion promoters/industry.

So your forlorn suggestion is most likely to fall on deaf ears.

36 posted on 11/25/2009 9:26:02 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: tacticalogic
The question was never about seeing the film but about the right of the film makers to be treated equally by a tax supported institution. If renters who express other view points, including Darwinist, can rent a public place, why should the creationists be refused?

It’s called freedom of speech not freedom of watching.

37 posted on 11/25/2009 9:27:29 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Publius6961

Luke 7:22 :o)


38 posted on 11/25/2009 9:28:36 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: count-your-change

==It’s called freedom of speech not freedom of watching.

Very well said!


39 posted on 11/25/2009 9:33:59 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Cute.


40 posted on 11/25/2009 9:52:53 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


41 posted on 11/25/2009 9:57:08 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: trumandogz
I was not aware that the First Amendment guaranteed the right of All films to be shown at government facilities and I thought that the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, AL was a government facility.

That's the trouble with leftists. When they talk about "rights" they mean "entitlements from the Government"

It's this progressive idea that the purpose of Government is to to give you what you want.

42 posted on 11/26/2009 5:23:57 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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To: count-your-change

Was there different criteria applied to then than to other people who rented facility space?


43 posted on 11/26/2009 5:28:44 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Nice article about the event - but would like more details of what was in the film.


44 posted on 11/26/2009 5:51:55 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: All

Nevermind - reread the original post and have visited the website. (of Mysterious Islands)


45 posted on 11/26/2009 6:00:54 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

No you didn’t answer it, though you made many assertions.

Still misrepresenting, I see.


46 posted on 11/26/2009 6:05:42 AM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Don’t you think you should know the science before speculating on whether the film is good or not?


47 posted on 11/26/2009 6:06:49 AM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: Publius6961

you did say “any”.


48 posted on 11/26/2009 6:07:32 AM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: trumandogz

Is the U.S. Space and Rocket Center a government facility? They have a copyright notice on their web page, which isn’t normally on federal government pages.


49 posted on 11/26/2009 6:24:08 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Interesting that it is not on any schedule here:U.S. Space & Rocket Center And the web address is not a .gov, for government operated.

Like this : http://www.nasa.gov/home/index.html

And this :http://www.sandia.gov/

And numerous other US government websites.

50 posted on 11/26/2009 6:24:51 AM PST by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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