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Navy SEALS May Go to Prison for Giving a Fat Lip to Islamic Terrorist
CFP ^ | November 26, 2009 | Jim O'Neill

Posted on 11/25/2009 9:07:41 PM PST by bogusname

“I hope they Mirandized this Ahmed Hashim Abed guy before they punched him.”—Rush Limbaugh

On March 31, 2004, a small convoy guarded by four American civilian contractors was ambushed at Fallujah, Iraq, and the guards were killed. The bodies of the four Blackwater security guards were burnt, hacked, and two of the mutilated bodies were hung for display on a bridge over the Euphrates river.

The San Francisco Chronicle reported that in ” a macabre and murderous town fete, locals cheered as one corpse was attached to a car tow rope and pulled triumphantly up and down the main road….”

The article noted that “In terms of its sheer bestial violence, the attack on the Blackwater operatives was unprecedented….”

The ambush, and desecration of the bodies were all videotaped by Islamic extremists, and subsequently disseminated world-wide as anti-American propaganda...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: absurd; bringemhome; liberal; navyseals; obamanation; seals; stupidity
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1 posted on 11/25/2009 9:07:44 PM PST by bogusname
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To: bogusname

He hit himself!

He knows us well enough to know we will let PC be a suicide pill for freedom!


2 posted on 11/25/2009 9:10:18 PM PST by DBrow
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To: bogusname

I HAVE SOME CHOICE WORDS BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY GET ME BANNED. THIS POTUS IS A PIECE OF CAMEL DUNG.


3 posted on 11/25/2009 9:10:56 PM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: bogusname

There may need to be a few more “fat lips” to go around if this nonsense doesn’t end soon!

1) There is NO upside for U.S. Troops to take prisoners anymore.


4 posted on 11/25/2009 9:12:09 PM PST by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: bogusname

We Are Done!

The Libtards have Completely Undermined Our Educational,Political,Monetary,Spiritual and Science Institutions.

Our Military is in the Final Death Throws before It also is Totally Demoralized.

The People Rise and Speak and They are Ignored and Derided.

The Time For Reason is Over.

We Are Done!


5 posted on 11/25/2009 9:12:51 PM PST by bravotu (Have a Nice Day !)
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To: bogusname

If they go to prison for punching a terrorist, common sense would digtate that their Commander-in-Chief would pardon them before they even set a foot behind bars.

What kind of American could possibly object to this?

Let’s get a head count.


6 posted on 11/25/2009 9:13:50 PM PST by incredulous joe ("Do I look like Mrs. Obama??")
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To: bogusname

When your CIC’s mentor tried to kill soldiers, why should anyone be surprised which side he’s on?

Pray for America and Our Seals


7 posted on 11/25/2009 9:14:28 PM PST by bray (Palin can see the White House from her Porch)
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To: bogusname

I don’t know what to say. This is beyond disgusting.


8 posted on 11/25/2009 9:14:52 PM PST by azishot
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To: bogusname

Urgent Western Union Telegram to all troops:

Do Not Reup.

Officers Resign Now if You Can.


9 posted on 11/25/2009 9:16:57 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: bogusname

Where is Mitch Rapp when you need him?


10 posted on 11/25/2009 9:18:38 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: bogusname

This is disgusting.


11 posted on 11/25/2009 9:21:09 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (My oath is to the Constitution, not to the state or the President. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/)
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To: bogusname
"Navy SEALS May Go to Prison for Giving a Fat Lip to Islamic Terrorist

They should have shot the bastard and it should have ended there. A fat lip? Please.

12 posted on 11/25/2009 9:21:16 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: DBrow
“He knows us well enough to know we will let PC be a suicide pill for freedom!”

I'm not a soldier, but I don't think this is an issue of being politically correct. It's an issue of military discipline. The crime the man committed—killing four American civilian security guards, mutilating their bodies, and then celebrating while his followers strung their dead bodies over a road way—is completely disproportionate to his beef with the US military—receiving a fat lip from a navy seal. Nonetheless, the seals have to maintain discipline. They could have been given a rebuke, but they've challenged that and asked for a court martial trial. I hope they are acquitted, but the officer in charge probably had no choice but to proceed with the trial as a matter of military discipline.

13 posted on 11/25/2009 9:22:50 PM PST by InterestedQuestioner (Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you and your household will be saved.)
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To: bogusname

I wonder, back in 1969 at the age of 17, would I have enlisted during wartime knowing that I may face criminal charges for assulting the enemy?

mmm mmmm mmmm


14 posted on 11/25/2009 9:25:58 PM PST by granite ("We dare not tempt them with weakness" - JFK)
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To: bogusname

A bullet in the back of the head would have prevented that fat lip...


15 posted on 11/25/2009 9:31:03 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: InterestedQuestioner
"I'm not a soldier, but I don't think this is an issue of being politically correct. It's an issue of military discipline. The crime the man committed—killing four American civilian security guards, mutilating their bodies, and then celebrating while his followers strung their dead bodies over a road way—is completely disproportionate to his beef with the US military—receiving a fat lip from a navy seal. Nonetheless, the seals have to maintain discipline. They could have been given a rebuke, but they've challenged that and asked for a court martial trial. I hope they are acquitted, but the officer in charge probably had no choice but to proceed with the trial as a matter of military discipline.

This is a war. Playing footsies is a dangerous thing. Giving an asshole a fat lip is nothing. Patton is rolling over in his grave over this.

16 posted on 11/25/2009 9:35:31 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Urgent Western Union Telegram to all troops: Do Not Reup. Officers Resign Now if You Can.

It is so hard to say this but I must agree.

17 posted on 11/25/2009 9:35:46 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: azishot

No more battlefield prisoners. Wrap them in pigfat and deliver them to their allah-!!


18 posted on 11/25/2009 9:36:21 PM PST by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: bogusname
Got to go back to the Viet Nam days: Kill them all and let God sort it out later.
19 posted on 11/25/2009 9:36:54 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: bogusname

Anyone know Ahmed Hashim Abed’s background? Was he a foreigner, one of Sadam’s thugs or one of many criminals in Fallujah at the time?


20 posted on 11/25/2009 9:36:57 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Tennessee Nana
"A bullet in the back of the head would have prevented that fat lip..."

Depends out where it exited. But a good idea anyway.

21 posted on 11/25/2009 9:37:37 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: bogusname
Zer0 should be calling a halt to this travesty immediately. It is because of his inept presidency that we don't call him Zer0 for nothing. Because he has not, the entire military is being slapped in the face. And it is getting more than a fat lip.

How are we to fight the broader war of Islamo-terrorism if we are so blind to see the restraints within our midst? It is the political correctness straight jacket of the Left (and their political dupes) that has infected this nation's ability to survive. It has caused the Twin Towers destruction and the Fort Hood massacre. These terrorists are being treated with kid gloves on the battlefield at the sacrifice of our fighting heroes. It has infused itself into the military culture like a cancer. Political correctness has allowed our precious heroes to fight with both hands tied behind their backs. Every human rights group in the world follows them around looking for the one bullet shot that looks like a war crime. Every action is weighed and scrutinized as we force our fighting heroes to measure their actions for possible war crimes prosecution. May God help us!

This political correctness is costing us more than the Fort Hood massacre. It is influencing the way we wage this war against Islamic terrorist who want to kill every American they can.

And every time Zer0 opens his mouth, the entire world is aghast at the dismal leadership we have placed in the position of Commander in Chief.

The special forces should now know what to do to avoid a prisoner squealing about a fat lip. At the expense of losing invaluable intelligence information, they will have to shoot them in the head.

We need to do a double flush. One for the Zer0prompter in Chief and another for the Democrats in both houses of Congress that have been thrust upon the American people.

22 posted on 11/25/2009 9:37:41 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: blackbart.223

The Seals pushed it to a court martial when they didn’t need to. Who knows, the captains mast might have ended up with an official clearance and an unofficial commendation from the captain “but don’t let anybody hear that I said this.”


23 posted on 11/25/2009 9:41:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: InterestedQuestioner

I can’t imageine AHA being a submissive goody-goody and the marines just punching him for the heck of it. In my scenarion, AHA probably kicked up some kind of verbal and physical fight and the marines had to subdue him...


24 posted on 11/25/2009 9:42:35 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Speak the truth, right the wrong, and follow the King.)
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To: jonrick46
"Zer0 should be calling a halt to this travesty immediately."

Don't hold your breath on that one. An Islamic nut job kills 14 at Fort Hood and he says don't jump to conclusions. I think it is obvious where he stands. Or bows.

25 posted on 11/25/2009 9:44:27 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: bogusname

So NYC could be safe these fine men are trashed.

Let Al Qeda have NYC and all her inhabitants..


26 posted on 11/25/2009 9:49:25 PM PST by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Or it may have ended their careers.


27 posted on 11/25/2009 9:49:43 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"The Seals pushed it to a court martial when they didn’t need to."

Why is there even a discussion on this? They punched an enemy in a war zone. The guy got a fat lip. That is pretty mild in a war zone. What are thinking?

28 posted on 11/25/2009 9:50:39 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223
Zero will bow to anyone:
29 posted on 11/25/2009 9:52:14 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: samadams2000

I’ve just been introduced to Mitch Rapp this evening.


30 posted on 11/25/2009 9:54:48 PM PST by notaliberal (Palin supporter)
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To: jonrick46

Good one.


31 posted on 11/25/2009 9:56:14 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: jonrick46

That is because he is King Fool!


32 posted on 11/25/2009 9:58:17 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: bogusname

This should be front and center one very front page of every media outlet every day. “Course we know that even if the msm covers it, it will be gone tomorrow.


33 posted on 11/25/2009 9:58:23 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: blackbart.223
“This is a war. Playing footsies is a dangerous thing. Giving an asshole a fat lip is nothing. Patton is rolling over in his grave over this.”

I agree with you, Blackbart.223.

“Giving an asshole a fat lip is nothing. “

Compared to what he did, certainly. His complaint is asinine, given that he killed four people, mutilated their dead bodies, and celebrated while their broken bodies were strung up. But....

“This is a war. Playing footsies is a dangerous thing.....”

In war, a breakdown in discipline can get Americans killed, right? I'm sure this is particularly true for special forces. The officer has to follow through. Discipline broke down, and the officers job is to deal with that.


It's not our officers who are acting despicably, it's Mr. Abed. He got socked in the kisser after killing four Americans. His behavior isn't what we Americans would call manly. It's sick. But given that he did file a complaint which suggests that US military discipline broke down among members of our elite forces, the officers have to look to it. I don't think this is a matter of political correctness,it's a matter of running a disciplined and effective military.

34 posted on 11/25/2009 9:58:28 PM PST by InterestedQuestioner (Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you and your household will be saved.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“The Seals pushed it to a court martial when they didn’t need to.”

That's true, but they may have had very good reasons for doing so. They could have received some sort of official rebuke instead, but that may have killed future prospects for promotion in elite units. They may also have felt that the principles at stake were worth taking a stand for. There decision reflects confidence in their fellow soldiers, that they will reach the right decision.

35 posted on 11/25/2009 10:02:56 PM PST by InterestedQuestioner (Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you and your household will be saved.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“The Seals pushed it to a court martial when they didn’t need to.”

That's true, but they may have had very good reasons for doing so. They could have received some sort of official rebuke instead, but that may have killed future prospects for promotion in elite units. They may also have felt that the principles at stake were worth taking a stand for. There decision reflects confidence in their fellow soldiers, that they will reach the right decision.

36 posted on 11/25/2009 10:03:02 PM PST by InterestedQuestioner (Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you and your household will be saved.)
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To: bogusname

After seeing those pictures (wish I hadn’t), all I could think of was the effect they would have on the murdered man’s mother, wife, sister, entire family. I would never get over it. Having a loved one die in battle is bad enough, but that -——


37 posted on 11/25/2009 10:06:29 PM PST by Humal
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To: ArmyTeach
“...AHA probably kicked up some kind of verbal and physical fight and the marines had to subdue him...”

That's certainly possible. Given the context of his complaint (a murderer who defiled the corpses of the dead is complaining about being punched,) he's probably a guy who likes to bait people. The seals were undoubtedly quite familiar with the atrocities he committed. He had a lot of ammo to work with if he was trying to get under someone’s skin.

38 posted on 11/25/2009 10:08:09 PM PST by InterestedQuestioner (Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you and your household will be saved.)
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To: InterestedQuestioner

I give up with people like you. I am quite certain you are a good person. War is an ugly thing at best. But if is undertaken putting certain constraints on the people we ask to fight it is a recipe for disaster. I will repeat this, a fat lip is nothing. We don’t cut people’s heads off on video tape!!! That is who we are dealing with.


39 posted on 11/25/2009 10:12:26 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: InterestedQuestioner

You’re wrong!! This is more PC and it is getting our guys killed. A fat lip means the Seals handled this POS with kid gloves. Screw this, they should have shot him on the spot.
I’m sick and tired of our PC policies and I don’t think talking will do any good with Obama and his Progressives.


40 posted on 11/25/2009 10:15:28 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: InterestedQuestioner

Think,,,”Hush Puppy”...


41 posted on 11/25/2009 10:19:13 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Dapper 26
"Screw this, they should have shot him on the spot."

It would have been better. This is not a game.

42 posted on 11/25/2009 10:20:46 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: bogusname

Who ever signs the order needs to be hounded to distraction and know that a fat lip is school yard concern. Someone needs to grow up and take one for the team.


43 posted on 11/25/2009 10:29:13 PM PST by healy61
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To: InterestedQuestioner
But given that he did file a complaint which suggests that US military discipline broke down among members of our elite forces, the officers have to look to it.

No discipline broke down. This is much ado about nothing. This one we can't really blame on Obama - this stink lays at the hands of our military establishment that have become pathetically neutered. So whoever is involved in court-martialling these hero's should be asked to retire. This gives encouragement to our enemies. We can't have this petty crap going on during war.

44 posted on 11/25/2009 10:30:12 PM PST by plain talk
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To: bogusname

Lesson learned: Anytime you are going to give the enemy a fat lip, be certain that the blow penetrates a minimum of 6 to 8 inches..... twice.

This stuff is insane.


45 posted on 11/25/2009 10:34:24 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is Americas First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: DBrow
He hit himself! He knows us well enough to know we will let PC be a suicide pill for freedom!

Exactly - they are TRAINED to do this.

The Seals say they didn't hit him - that's good enough for me.

Not only am I sick to death of seeing these dam* headlines assuming the seals, not the barbarian, are lying - but it is a STRICT rules in journalism NEVER to state that the accused is guilty - but "alleged" - until a court says otherwise.

The dam* lib press are gleefully running with this - none of them even posturing that the Cretin did it himself.

It's criminal enough that,now, with the Traitor in Chiefs new rules of engagement, if a soldier captures a barbarian on the battlefield, has to read him his Mirandas!

Insanity.

The barbarians are going to pull this time and again now - they have a friend in the WH and they know it.

46 posted on 11/25/2009 10:45:48 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: bravotu

The hell we are.


47 posted on 11/25/2009 10:47:15 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: blackbart.223

The rules are changing fast and it appears that PCism has corrupted the highest ranks in the military to the point that our troops not only have to watch for the enemy in front of them but also snipers at their backs.
This is sickening and needs to stop and stop now. It’s a game played by ignorant bastards in Washington but no game where the boots hit the ground.


48 posted on 11/25/2009 10:50:52 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: InterestedQuestioner
receiving a fat lip from a navy seal. Nonetheless, the seals have to maintain discipline

Et tu?

The seals say they didn't do it. (which is why they wouldn't take the easy way out.)

The barbarian says they did,

One is lying.

Why do YOU and so many others believe the inhuman scum over the seals?

No wonder this country is in such shambles.

49 posted on 11/25/2009 10:51:15 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Dapper 26
"The rules are changing fast and it appears that PCism has corrupted the highest ranks in the military to the point that our troops not only have to watch for the enemy in front of them but also snipers at their backs."

This is not good for them or us.

50 posted on 11/25/2009 11:07:06 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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