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U.S. Muslims are Americans too
CNN.com ^ | November 26, 2009 | By Hamid Dabashi

Posted on 11/26/2009 7:51:35 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

New York (CNN) -- The serendipitous occurrence of this year's Thanksgiving holiday on the same evening as the Muslim Eid-ul-Adha is a festive occasion to reflect on the place of Islam in American collective consciousness.

On the same evening that millions of Americans gather around their Thanksgiving dinner to celebrate this most American of holidays, even more millions of Muslims around the globe, including the growing number of American Muslims, will do the same -- celebrating as well one of the most definitive moments of their faith -- Prophet Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his God.

This holiday celebration comes soon after the tragic incident at Fort Hood, when the atrocious act of a mass murderer put Islam and Muslims under some pressure to either denounce or defend their faith.

For more than three decades now, I have taught generations of American students who come to college having scarce read a word about Malcolm X, and yet everything about Martin Luther King Jr.

Until Americans come to terms with the fact that they are deeply indebted to a Muslim revolutionary for the fruits of the civil rights movement they enjoy today, Islam and Muslims will continue to be seen as archetypically alien and an everlasting danger to American lives and liberties.

Americans are Christians, Jews, Hindus, agnostics, atheists, and anything else in between -- but Americans are also Muslims, millions of them, and Islam has now become integral to what the distinguished American sociologist Robert Bellah termed our "civil religion."

It is only apt that this particular Thanksgiving, Americans think about Eid-ul-Adha, as precious to Muslim-Americans as the occasion that has gathered us all "at the table." Let's make room for Muslims "at the table" because -- to quote Langston Hughes -- they "too, sing America."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; islamists; islamobama; muslims; obamabinbiden; sodomhusseinobama; terrorists
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1 posted on 11/26/2009 7:51:35 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Still waiting for mainstream US Muslims to publically denounce terrorism in a meaningful way...still waiting...still waiting...still waiting...still waiting...still waiting...

...still waiting.


2 posted on 11/26/2009 7:54:33 AM PST by kjo
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Being a Muslim is being a member of a cult at best. It was and is a political movement based on submission to whatever they say the rules are. Beheadings, stoning, cutting off limbs...what an awful CULT to be born into.


3 posted on 11/26/2009 7:55:06 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

To bad the muslims don’t see it that way.


4 posted on 11/26/2009 7:55:16 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

our “civil religion”?? Are they nuts? I will answer my own question... YES!!!


5 posted on 11/26/2009 7:55:37 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Yeah, but aren't they also Muslims FIRST?

I don't care what religion someone belongs to, as long as they aren't trying to kill me, or destroy my country. Guess I'm just a bigot in that way.

6 posted on 11/26/2009 7:55:57 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Flashback 1943...

Nazis are Germans to.

Seriously what is the point of this PC crap?

7 posted on 11/26/2009 7:56:06 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It is only apt that this particular Thanksgiving, Americans think about Eid-ul-Adha, as precious to Muslim-Americans as the occasion that has gathered us all "at the table." Let's make room for Muslims "at the table" because -- to quote Langston Hughes -- they "too, sing America."

This is frickin' nonsense....

8 posted on 11/26/2009 7:56:20 AM PST by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: freebilly

Yes. This is taqqiah at its best.


9 posted on 11/26/2009 7:57:42 AM PST by bergmeid (obama. With a small o.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ths fruit of the civil rights movement has turned out to be communism, so take your civil rights and shove them! I’ll just hang on to my old inalienable rights!


10 posted on 11/26/2009 7:59:08 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

OK, the ball is in their court so they have to prove it.


11 posted on 11/26/2009 8:01:52 AM PST by Nowhere Man (The night they drove old America down (11-07-2009))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Until Americans come to terms with the fact that they are deeply indebted to a Muslim revolutionary for the fruits of the civil rights movement they enjoy today, Islam and Muslims will continue to be seen as archetypically alien and an everlasting danger to American lives and liberties.

And many wonder why our country is circling the drain. This is the kind of PC nonsense that got 14 people killed at Ft Hood.

12 posted on 11/26/2009 8:01:59 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"...Islam has now become integral to what the distinguished American sociologist Robert Bellah termed our "civil religion."

Distinguised socioligist thinks Islam is civil?

I'm glad I never met him... Won't say anymore...

13 posted on 11/26/2009 8:03:38 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Until Americans come to terms with the fact that they are deeply indebted to a Muslim revolutionary for the fruits of the civil rights movement they enjoy today, Islam and Muslims will continue to be seen as archetypically alien and an everlasting danger to American lives and liberties.

Right!

And, "UNTIL YOU MOOSLIMBS COME TO TERMS WITH THE FACT THAT Y'ALL SHOULD PLEDGE YOUR ALLEGIANCE TO THIS GREAT REPUBLIC FIRST AND FOREMOST--AS OPPOSED TO YOUR PSYCHOTIC, MURDERING, PEDERAST, PROPHET--AND BEGIN SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THOSE ISLAM-O-FASCIST, WHO WISH TO DESTROY EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND INSTALL "SHARIA"--AND RENOUNCE SAME, WELL, WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT, OTHER THAN "SUSPICIONS" AND "DOUBTS?"

14 posted on 11/26/2009 8:03:42 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: freebilly

I wonder if the early Puritans, when they finished their harvest and gave thanks to God.......were they actually contemplating Allah, and the Koran? PLS>>>>>


15 posted on 11/26/2009 8:03:56 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Until Americans come to terms with the fact that they are deeply indebted to a Muslim revolutionary for the fruits of the civil rights movement they enjoy today, Islam and Muslims will continue to be seen as archetypically alien and an everlasting danger to American lives and liberties.

Oh puh_leeeeezz...he was a racist segregationists who advocated violence. We owe nothing to him.

16 posted on 11/26/2009 8:04:30 AM PST by Always Right
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To: kjo

Crickets...


17 posted on 11/26/2009 8:06:03 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What a bunch of BS.


18 posted on 11/26/2009 8:06:53 AM PST by mulligan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If Muslims turn their back on the American way of life, then they are not true Americans. Simple as that. If their Imams preach against American, they are not Americans and need to leave.


19 posted on 11/26/2009 8:07:23 AM PST by RC2
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There is simply no escaping the text of Quran. They can dodge the issue all they want but not even the finest Islamic scholars in the world can deny the calls to violence within the book itself.

If you are not killing or enslaving infidels, you are not a good muslim. Simple as that.


20 posted on 11/26/2009 8:07:32 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
U.S. Muslims are Americans too


Just like British Muslims are British.


... and French Muslims are French.

21 posted on 11/26/2009 8:08:02 AM PST by spodefly ( This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Islam has NO Place in any liberal, Western democratic society, none. It’s a socially and culturally retarded, violent and intolerant 7th. throwback that has never and will never advance humanity in any way.


22 posted on 11/26/2009 8:08:05 AM PST by JoeMac (''Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more''. Popeye The Sailorman)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I guess I'm OK with Muslims who loudly denounce Sharia.

I wonder how CNN would be with a non-Muslim group that accepted female genital mutilation, death for homosexuals and demanded blasphemy laws.

23 posted on 11/26/2009 8:08:19 AM PST by Tribune7 (God bless Carrie Prejean)
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To: kjo

“Still waiting for mainstream US Muslims to publically denounce terrorism in a meaningful way...still waiting...still waiting...still waiting...still waiting...still waiting...

...still waiting.”

Why I have zero respect for ANY American Muslims.


24 posted on 11/26/2009 8:08:24 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
U.S. Muslims are Americans too

so was Alger Hiss and the Rosenberg's....so what his point???

25 posted on 11/26/2009 8:09:01 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
99% of terrorist acts committed since 9-11-01 were committed by those practicing the muslim faith.

Conclusion: Muslims are terrorists too.

26 posted on 11/26/2009 8:11:02 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So let me get this straight. Malcom X was responsible for the success of the civil rights movement, and by proxy Islam gave America civil rights reform. All other faiths have committed great attrocities. Ft. Hood was the act of a madman. So on our national day of thanks we are to think of Islam and be thankful.
GO F#&K YOURSELVES!!! I WILL NOT SUFFER ONE OUNCE OF YOUR TYRANNY!


27 posted on 11/26/2009 8:12:20 AM PST by 724th (If the enemy is in range, so are you.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So was Timothy McVeigh.


28 posted on 11/26/2009 8:12:23 AM PST by Little Ray (The beatings will continue until GOP comes to heel.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Any Muslin who whishes to eat at my table on Thanksgiving is welcomed, But I will adhere to my family traditions and will not change them one iota for anyone. He is free to eat all of the ham, deep fried turkey (in lard), stringbeans with bacon, bisquits (made with lard), turkey giblet, ham and bacon stuffing he wants. If this clashes with his traditions or religions, he is free not to come to my table. I do not celebrate his silly holiday and take no offense if he does. He should feel the same about mine.


29 posted on 11/26/2009 8:13:24 AM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Muslims are NOT Americans. The goal of Islam is the Global Caliphate, a goal in conflict with America. Anyone wanting to be a Muslim is giving up the right to be American by choice. Islam is a cult of global conquest, always has been and always will be.


30 posted on 11/26/2009 8:13:24 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Ali Obama and the 40 Czars.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Prophet Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son for his God.

What an odd thing to "celebrate". But then, these are Muslims.......

31 posted on 11/26/2009 8:13:30 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

US muslims are Americans too, but at the end of the day, the other Americans (the rest of us) are still infidels and we know what the great prophet taught his followers about us.


32 posted on 11/26/2009 8:14:07 AM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Find me a Muslim that can explain how Islam - which translates to SUBMISSION can coexist with America which I think still stands for FREEDOM. How can a religion that teaches that it must be spread by the sword can coexist with FREEDOM. Islam translates to a cancer where ever it has been accepted. History has proven that anywhere that Islam has been accepted the recipient country has stopped improving and has in fact retreated into a slum world.
33 posted on 11/26/2009 8:14:27 AM PST by JayAr36
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Some Muslims are still Americans. Some aren't. It's the ones that aren't that need to be, as the situation requires, watched, arrested, or deported. Stuff that in your towel.

Congressman Billybob

Don't Tread On Me (9/12 photo and poster"

"ACLU Wants Terrorists to Beat the Rap"

34 posted on 11/26/2009 8:16:34 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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To: kjo

Unless your favorite facial complexion color is bright blue, don’t hold your breath while waiting...waiting...waiting...


35 posted on 11/26/2009 8:16:40 AM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BETHERE!!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ahh what a nice heartwarming story about muslims... 6 unfortunately they see it a little different!
36 posted on 11/26/2009 8:19:10 AM PST by darkside321
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Complete bullfeathers. This is a world-domination movement cleverly disguised as a religion that has no place in any civilized country.


37 posted on 11/26/2009 8:21:09 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (both the left and the jihadis want to destroy Western Civilization)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Excuse my cynicism but actions speak louder than words...


38 posted on 11/26/2009 8:22:57 AM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If they are Americans then they should have no trouble turning in the radicals that are a threat to the rest of us Americans!

They know who they are...yet they remain silent accomplices in the ever-growing threat to our freedom and existence.


39 posted on 11/26/2009 8:24:07 AM PST by surfer
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To: kjo

Sure they are,, they can come over and share my Christmas ham!
Seriously though,, foreigners are welcome to come to America and be regarded fully as Americans, on one condition. Serve your country, speak english, bring your cooking techniques and literature along, leave your murderous non-freedom loving government ideas there in the old country.

But don’t come here and give me these assaholic lectures about how the old country was somehow superior. If you think that, go back home. Mexicans are real bad about this. Like mslims who come here and lecture us on America being immoral.


40 posted on 11/26/2009 8:25:46 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Always Right
Oh puh_leeeeezz...he was a racist segregationists who advocated violence. We owe nothing to him.

There are some things we can thank Mohammedans for. One line from the Marine Corps Hymn and .45 ACP to name a couple.

41 posted on 11/26/2009 8:27:30 AM PST by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: JayAr36

“How can a religion that teaches that it must be spread by the sword can coexist with FREEDOM.”

Right. The very concept of ‘freedom’ is incompatable with Islam as everything which happens, down to the subatomic level, is determined by Allah. There is no such thing in Islam as freedom or free will.


42 posted on 11/26/2009 8:27:41 AM PST by PIF
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Freedom of religion = national suicide.


43 posted on 11/26/2009 8:28:30 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
For more than three decades now, I have taught generations of American students who come to college having scarce read a word about Malcolm X,...

Ah yes, a real friggin' icon of virtue there to be taught of in college.

44 posted on 11/26/2009 8:28:34 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: kjo

A Texan walks into a bar, orders a beer, and sits between a muslim and an American Indian.
The Indian says, “Once my people were many, now we are few.”
The muslim looks over and says, “Once my people were few, and now we are many.”
The Texan looks at one then the other and says, “That’s cuz we ain’t played Cowboys and Muslims yet.”


45 posted on 11/26/2009 8:30:05 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The problem is that Muslims have a conflict. The Islamic belief in Shura is incompatible with Democracy. Shura is basically an Islamic Theocracy since it requires adherence to the Sharia.

This overemphasis of Muslim rights that you see pronounced over and over again is an awkward attempt to redirect attention from the fact that our Gov is falling down on the job when it comes to protecting us from home grown Islamic terrorism. Ft Hood is a perfect example.
46 posted on 11/26/2009 8:33:54 AM PST by etradervic (Democrat uber deficit spending proves that the swine flu originated in DC)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
This is a world-domination movement cleverly disguised as a religion that has no place in any civilized country.

Only to the strong minded.

The weak minded will believe anything.

47 posted on 11/26/2009 8:35:10 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

http://www.personalliberty.com/news/cair-protests-governments-attempt-to-seize-mosques-muslim-property-19472173/


48 posted on 11/26/2009 8:38:15 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
U.S. Muslims are Americans too...

Right. And so are Communists, satanists and serial killers.

That doesn't mean it is a good thing. A great case can be made that it is a bad thing - a really bad thing - for America!

49 posted on 11/26/2009 8:38:57 AM PST by Gritty (Bicultural societies are among the most unstable ones because politics becomes tribal - Mark Steyn)
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To: Ev Reeman

We are headed for a war with islam. they intend to take
over America and obama is right in there with them. do
not be fooled by these haters.
oathkeepers.org


50 posted on 11/26/2009 8:42:07 AM PST by manonCANAL
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