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Kaine urges nonviolent offenders to seek rights restoration
Richmond Times ^ | 11/25/09 | Jim Nolan

Posted on 11/26/2009 5:46:01 PM PST by blueyon

Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, who leaves office in January, today encouraged people with nonviolent felony convictions who have paid their debt to society to apply to have their voting rights restored.

Speaking on his monthly call-in radio show on WTOP in Washington, Kaine noted that both he and his predecessor as governor, Mark R. Warner, have restored the rights of more Virginians than any of the previous governors of the commonwealth combined.

Virginia and Kentucky are the only states that require people who have lost their rights through felony convictions to apply for reinstatement. In addition to voting rights, convicted felons in Virginia may also not serve on juries or hold public office.

"I think folks who serve their time should have their rights restored, especially those who have been convicted of nonviolent felonies," said Kaine.

(Excerpt) Read more at 2.timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: democrats; felonvote; kaine; obama; voting
As I once read more prisoners were democrats then republicans, I see Kaine is going for the democratic vote. They really must be worried about the next election.
1 posted on 11/26/2009 5:46:01 PM PST by blueyon
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To: blueyon
BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED IS MORE CRIMINALS HELPING TO RUN THE COUNTRY!!!
2 posted on 11/26/2009 5:47:58 PM PST by Mr. K (Deathly afraid my typos become a freeper catchphrase...I'm series!)
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To: blueyon

Part of the problem is felony-flation. This category of crime used to be reserved for acts that were so bad they were worthy of being hanged. Now the various politically prominent outrages du jour have turned a plethora of former misdemeanors into felonies.


3 posted on 11/26/2009 5:53:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: blueyon

Someone pointed out on the earlier thread that the left-wing group responsible for organizing the felons is an Obama ACORN-type group.

Explained here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2391192/posts?page=10#10


4 posted on 11/26/2009 5:56:15 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Mr. K

For a long time I have questioned the practice of using felonies to strip the rights away from citizens. What is not a felony today could be a felony tomorrow. Not purchasing health insurance may be a felony soon, so should I loose my gun rights for resisting the unconstitutional law if it is passed? If a person commits a crime serious enough that he or she can not be trusted to carry a gun, then that person should not be out on the street.


5 posted on 11/26/2009 5:57:00 PM PST by Sarah-bot
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I fully agree with you.


6 posted on 11/26/2009 5:57:56 PM PST by Sarah-bot
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To: blueyon

Actually, I agree with him on this. When a person is released from prison, or taken off parole, or serves out thier probation, ALL thier rights should be restored. Including firearms rights.
If that person cannot be trusted to be released back into society, then obviously they haven’t been locked up or restricted long enough.
With only a few exceptions, such as capital offenses, or child molestation-rape, a person ought to be allowed to start with a clean slate.


7 posted on 11/26/2009 5:59:06 PM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: Sarah-bot

I’m with you but we are a minority here on torchesandpitchforks.com..lol


8 posted on 11/26/2009 6:00:14 PM PST by wardaddy (The movie Valkyrie was excellent...I was surprised. What a cast.)
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To: blueyon

How come some enterprising reporter does not research how many of these felons who’ve had their rights restored later voted, and then were convicted of new felonies?

How come some reporter does not research how many felons who were released from jail from overcrowding were later convicted of additional felonies?

Why is it that we never hear how many paroled felons later are convicted of new crimes committed while on parole?

Why is it that we never hear the “rest of the story” when we hear about these instances where felons have been released, pardoned, paroled, or had their rights restored?


9 posted on 11/26/2009 6:01:02 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: blueyon

As if we need criminals making decisions that affect our lives.

Life is about the choices we make and, for better or worse, we all have to live with them.


10 posted on 11/26/2009 6:04:35 PM PST by papasmurf (You betcha!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My felony was drunk driving. Fortunately I live in a state that returns my right to vote once incarceration and parole or probation is finished.

Wait till we see the sudden explosion in the number of felonies due to people not buying their socialized health care plan.


11 posted on 11/26/2009 6:06:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Brilliant
How come some enterprising reporter does not research how many of these felons who’ve had their rights restored later voted, and then were convicted of new felonies?

As a former felon myself I'd love to see that. Personally I don't think people who are likely to re offend are going to be too worried about voting. In my case my turn toward conservatism and civic responsibility are symbiotic.
12 posted on 11/26/2009 6:13:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: blueyon

Our rights are God-given, not by man but by God. While incarcerated, sure, after a trial, a person cannot possibly exercise those rights. But when he is freed, all of his rights should be restored. Would our Founding Fathers disarm or remove free speech from someone who has done his time? I’m not sure, but they were pretty radical and erred towards freedom.


13 posted on 11/26/2009 6:14:24 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: Dogbert41

Our founders were for harsh punishment of a very limited number of crimes.


14 posted on 11/26/2009 6:21:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: papasmurf
As if we need criminals making decisions that affect our lives

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15 posted on 11/26/2009 6:26:17 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48

Not only has that horse already left the barn, it burned it to the ground and is living in Mexico somewhere.


16 posted on 11/26/2009 6:30:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: blueyon

Most criminals are Democrats.


17 posted on 11/26/2009 6:39:46 PM PST by clintonh8r (Oath Keeper and Manhattan Declaration signer)
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To: digger48
As if we need criminals making decisions that affect our lives.



I rest my case, your Honor.


18 posted on 11/26/2009 6:40:30 PM PST by papasmurf (You betcha!)
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To: cripplecreek
I'd bet that a full 99% of criminals aren't political at all, and don't favor either party. And the ones that might vote are such a small percentage that it's not going to make or break either party.It's the unconvicted criminals we have to worry about.☺
19 posted on 11/26/2009 6:50:11 PM PST by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Pray for Obama,Psalms109:8)
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To: Quickgun

We need to look at this from the democrat standpoint and what their real goal is. They aren’t looking at reformed “criminals” like myself. They’re really looking at prison inmates as the ultimate voting block.

Your average likely repeat offender who is out on the street in unreliable as a voter and most likely won’t vote at all. Prison inmates on the other hand are a whole different story. They’ll vote just to do something a little different for a day and they’ll vote for whoever promises to get them out soonest, promises the most perks, etc.

Can you imagine what a democrat would say at a prison campaign event?


20 posted on 11/26/2009 6:59:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Dogbert41
I agree and it is the biggest issue today. The mindset use to be that it was better for a few guilty to go free versus an innocent person get punished. Todays mentality is it is better for innocent people to be convicted and punished especially if it protects the childrun !

Concerning free speech, it doesn't exist that much anymore especially with political correctness ru amok not only in the academic world but also in society in general especially the corporate world.

Would our Founding Fathers disarm or remove free speech from someone who has done his time? I’m not sure, but they were pretty radical and erred towards freedom.
21 posted on 11/26/2009 7:29:37 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: Quickgun

I beg to differ with you about most criminals are political as if that was the case why would Kaine be trying to restore 300,000 voting rights?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2391192/posts?page=10#10

That is enough to sway an election and Kaine would not be doing it if it would benefit any one other then democrats!


22 posted on 11/27/2009 4:31:46 AM PST by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: blueyon

“Kaine urges nonviolent offenders to seek rights restoration” translation: “Hey criminal skunks come on in, register Democrat vote for Democrats several times each year and we’ve got a deal!”


23 posted on 11/27/2009 5:20:48 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Is this just me, or can anyone show me where in the Constitution there is a right vote? Maybe states have that written into their constitutions, but there is no nationwide right to vote.


24 posted on 12/14/2009 11:53:29 PM PST by ObiJuan (Palin/Petraus '12)
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