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Kaine, O'Malley Criticize Catholic Church Response to same sex marriage in D.C.
The Washington Times ^ | November 25, 200 | AP

Posted on 11/26/2009 6:25:46 PM PST by HokieMom

RICHMOND | The governors of Virginia and Maryland, both Catholics, said Tuesday that it would be wrong for the church to suspend or reduce social services in the nation's capital if the District approves gay marriage.

Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine and Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley criticized the Catholic Archdiocese of Washington's response to the District's gay marriage proposal during a joint appearance on Washington radio station WTOP.

The D.C. Council is expected to approve gay marriage next month. The archdiocese says that unless the proposal is amended to add a religious exemption, its Catholic Charities won't be able to continue contracts with the city to run homeless shelters and provide other services to needy residents.

"I'm Catholic and I think it's wrong," Mr. Kaine, who also is chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said of the church's position. "I don't think you take your ball and go home."

Said Mr. O'Malley: "It would be very, very sad for all concerned. I don't understand how they can possibly do this."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: catholiccharities; catholicpoliticians; cinopoliticians; citycouncil; dc; fenty; homosexualagenda; kaine; omalley; religiousleft; samesexmarriage; saynotohomomarriage

1 posted on 11/26/2009 6:25:46 PM PST by HokieMom
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To: HokieMom

Phonies all

State over church, that’s their priorities


2 posted on 11/26/2009 6:27:11 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

3 posted on 11/26/2009 6:27:46 PM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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To: HokieMom

Frickin’ heretics.


4 posted on 11/26/2009 6:28:22 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: HokieMom

All this bluster and inside they are happy. This will give the government even more control over social aid given out in DC.


5 posted on 11/26/2009 6:28:40 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: HokieMom

“I’m Catholic and I think it’s wrong,” Mr. Kaine

Said Mr. O’Malley: “I don’t understand how they can possibly do this.”

I’m sorry, were they talking about the DNC supporting abortion?


6 posted on 11/26/2009 6:28:53 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Right. They’re can’t be gone soon enough for me.


7 posted on 11/26/2009 6:32:31 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: icwhatudo

That should be “I’m a Catholic liberal politician and this is wrong”.

It amazes me that such people act as they will, support what they will regardless of the RCC’s position and teaching and then act with bluster when the Catholic Church then lives up to it’s principles.


8 posted on 11/26/2009 6:36:01 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: HokieMom
"I'm Catholic and I think it's wrong," Mr. Kaine, who also is chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said of the church's position. "I don't think you take your ball and go home."

That is NOT what the church is saying, and this Kaine guy knows it. The article says:

The archdiocese says on its Web site, MarriageMatters DC.org, that it will continue to provide social services even if the gay marriage proposal passes, but that without contracts with the city, the resources to continue that work would be diminished.

This Protestant supports the Catholic Church's stance.

9 posted on 11/26/2009 6:38:49 PM PST by gitmo (FR vs DU: n4mage vs DUmage)
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To: HokieMom

Tim Kaine and Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley criticized the Catholic Archdiocese of Washington’s response to the District’s gay marriage proposal during a joint appearance on Washington radio station WTOP.

The (Immoral) Democrats’ war on the Faithful Church continues..


10 posted on 11/26/2009 6:39:35 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: HokieMom
Mr. Kaine, who also is chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said of the church's position. "I don't think you take your ball and go home."

Ahhh, yes they can. Did you even hear yourself? It's 'their' ball and they can do with it whatever they want.

- Traveler

11 posted on 11/26/2009 6:40:41 PM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: HokieMom

Gosh. I’m NOT a Catholic and I agree with the Archdiocese on this.


12 posted on 11/26/2009 6:40:54 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: HokieMom

If any of these services are considered by the Church to be a “human right”, like the “right” to health care, how can the Church can deny people their “rights”?


13 posted on 11/26/2009 6:45:03 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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The governors of Virginia and Maryland, both Catholics,

Correction: The governors of Virginia and Maryland, both CINOs,

14 posted on 11/26/2009 6:45:55 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: HokieMom

Democrats first and Catholics second.


15 posted on 11/26/2009 6:47:32 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: HokieMom

Looks like the Catholics aren’t doing this to be punitive; they are doing it to avoid their charity employees being involved in these new gay laws.


16 posted on 11/26/2009 6:53:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: HokieMom

Sounds like Bishop Tobin needs to pay these two a call. :)


17 posted on 11/26/2009 7:03:03 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

Definitely.


18 posted on 11/26/2009 7:04:03 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom
This was the real reason that the separation of church and state clause was in the constitution, for the government to stay out of the Church's business.
19 posted on 11/26/2009 7:21:48 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: HokieMom
Hey Kaine ? O’Malley ? you have no business telling the Church ( or for that matter GOD himself ) what to do.
20 posted on 11/26/2009 7:23:46 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Jeff Chandler; HokieMom

” how can the Church can deny people their “rights”?”

The Church isn’t denying anyone their “rights”. It is bowing to the fact that the D.C. Council believes it can deliver the services better within its belief system than the Church can within its belief system.

All decisions have consequences; some unintended, some intended. The Church is merely following Thomas Jefferson’s aphorism; “Do you want to know who you are? Don’t ask. Act! Action will delineate and define you.”


21 posted on 11/26/2009 7:23:59 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: American Constitutionalist

We will have a chance to see if it’s still true today very soon. This may end up in the Supreme Court.


22 posted on 11/26/2009 7:24:00 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom
The Church should excommunicate them from the church.
23 posted on 11/26/2009 7:25:07 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Jeff,

Please do some further research. It is not the Archdiocese of Washington that wishes to cut ties. It is the DC Council that wishes to erect PC barriers for Christian faith groups.

Sursum Corda


24 posted on 11/26/2009 7:25:14 PM PST by Sursum Corda
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To: HokieMom

“I’m Catholic and I think it’s wrong,” Mr. Kaine, who also is chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said of the church’s position. “I don’t think you take your ball and go home.”

Typical liberal reasoning; Let’s compromise and do things my way.


25 posted on 11/26/2009 7:25:40 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: HokieMom
If the Church is not allowed to operate within the parameters of the Faith, it won't be able to continue to do the work it has done for the people of DC for so many years. Does the DC City Council think that the prerogatives of the VERY few homosexuals in the District who might want to 'get married', outweigh those of the numbers of poor people who would be severely hurt by the removal of the services now provided by the Church?

If the Council wants to be punitive, and not allow for the Conscience rights of people of Faith, it have to accept the consequences of its decision.

26 posted on 11/26/2009 7:44:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: blue-duncan; Sursum Corda; HokieMom

I know the diocese isn’t doing anything different; they will just refuse to certify that they are compliant with the new requirements. It’s the city that is making the changes and will be dropping the contracts.

My point was that the Church leaders should be more circumspect before they declare as a “right” the service of others, before they declare health care a “human right” as some of them have done. They’ll get caught in their own trap.


27 posted on 11/26/2009 9:19:31 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: HokieMom

I’d love to see a Bishop tell 0’Malley not to receive communion any longer for his positions on ABORTION and gays . Marylanders are not people or citizens to marty they are simply a revenue supply source .


28 posted on 11/27/2009 5:29:04 AM PST by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLEN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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To: HokieMom; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

I’m really beginning to hate these two...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


29 posted on 11/29/2009 1:40:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Don't eat your dog; eat obnoxious, liberal humans to save the planet!)
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To: HokieMom

Reading this only in a cursory manner, I can sort of see the point of the gov’s.

Maybe stopping various help because of gay approval is too much.

But then, if they do it, it’s not much skin off my nose. I really don’t care if gays get dissed.


30 posted on 11/29/2009 6:16:52 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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