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Free Republic does not and will not support RINOS!! Not now!! Not ever!!
My day after Thanksgiving message | 11/26/200 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/26/2009 9:55:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: sola_fide
Good grief, if you’re typical of the Palin crowd then you make my point.

You first have to have a point in order for me to "make it" for you. All you did was make a totally unsubstantiated statement that "if the RNC nominates Sarah Palin to run for President in 2012, it'll be a train wreck."

A paid shill would make a statement exactly like you did, without any supporting reasoning or facts.

So, what is it? Do you actually have some solid reasoning for making that statement, or are you just a paid shill who's trying to disrupt an obviously pro-Palin forum?

2,141 posted on 11/28/2009 7:20:37 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: XenaLee

Amnesty and his border policies were the first crack in Bush’s armor for me. They weren’t a deal breaker until his penchant to grow the size of government, capped by the bailout plan came to fruition. That was it.

And borders are my main issue. I have a daily ping list that addresses the issue. But I was so enamored with Bush over his WOT agenda, I failed to see the danger. I’m not happy with myself for that.


2,143 posted on 11/28/2009 7:24:43 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: Cedric
Jeesh, give the lust-o-rama a little rest, will ya?

Coming from someone who fantasizes over private body parts, that's funny.

2,144 posted on 11/28/2009 7:27:02 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: bcsco

I am still grateful to Bush for having kept our national security strong and effective for the remaining seven years. And for caring about our military. Of course, that has all changed back again...now.

As for him ok’ing the bailout, I’m not going to condemn him for that. We don’t know what the traitors in charge of ruining the country told him re: the billions of draw-down that occurred back in September. They probably showed him how much money we’d lost and how much we’d have to put back to keep the government from collapsing (hey...now that I think about it...that’s not a bad idea....hindsight).

I do think Bush probably ‘thought’ he was doing what was necessary or best. I’ll give him that. But...yeah. He was conned by the con-artist DemocRATS.


2,145 posted on 11/28/2009 7:33:28 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee

You’re being way too rational for this crowd.


2,146 posted on 11/28/2009 7:34:49 PM PST by Cedric
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To: bcsco
Repeatedly making that unfounded slur says much more about you than it does about me.
2,147 posted on 11/28/2009 7:36:39 PM PST by Cedric
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To: rahbert
rahbert - "Agreed. No RINO’s means Pelosi remains Speaker and Reid remains Majority Leader. They are the real damage. Who knows, maybe the gays and greenies in SF will turn Conservative and support Palin, but its not likely nor is it likely that any of the other blue states will either. So, prepare to be marginalized, in perpetuity..."

Your rhetoric seemingly implies that there is value in preserving the reign of RINOs and McCain-style moderate-Republicans, harkening to a return of 'politics as-usual'. The old-school term "liberal", has now been displaced in the political lexicon with "moderate" because the new liberals are so far left that they are dominated by Facist-Marxists!

A "Republican-ist" can argue that we can somehow "liberate" the U.S. Congress and Senate (of Reid and Pelosi) by placing brand-name "moderate" Republicans in majority positions? However, reflection on the Bush years has shown most that that politician was cast with the same lot, his momentum in the same direction (i.e., big Government, high-taxes, lost freedoms, Patriot Act, etc.) only on a slow boil instead of full flame-on - as with current Democrats. Both paths lead America to the same dead-end; however, one path is slightly longer than the other.

You, my friend are a mis-guided conservative. True conservatives have crossed their fingers for 2010 redemption, and with it an opportunity to usher in a new breed of Constitutionalists. If, on the other hand, 2010 is disappointing to our breed of conservatism (i.e., Democrats retain majorities in both the House and Senate), then plan B is a New Declaration of Independence and all that entails, my friend.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. —

We are rapidly approaching a 2010 'cross-roads' -

2,148 posted on 11/28/2009 7:48:09 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Cedric

Well....I do have my rational moments (smile).

It’s all in good fun. You learn a lot, you get to vent a little frustration, and you can even get snarky with strangers, unlike at the celebration dinner we just had on Thursday (got to be nice to the relatives).

All in all, it’s free entertainment to boot.

Gotta love it. FR Forever!


2,149 posted on 11/28/2009 7:50:13 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: bcsco

How was your dinner out? The chili turned out fabulous. Think the crock pot is on its last legs, though.


2,150 posted on 11/28/2009 7:56:33 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: Cedric; Jim Robinson
CFR. Amnesty. "Religion of Peace". Grandmas in wheelchairs being wanded at airports. Harriet Miers. Medicare part D.

Sucking up to the Palestinians.

Holding hands with the Saudis.

No more action to keep nukes away from Iran and North Korea than Obama has taken.

W was a RINO in all the ways that matter to me.

The sad thing is that if I had logged on here in October 04 and said "no more RINOs" just like JimRob is saying now, I'd have probably got a zot for my troubles.

I figure the rest of FR is just now coming around to my point of view.

2,151 posted on 11/28/2009 7:59:46 PM PST by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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To: Notary Sojac
W was a RINO in all the ways that matter to me.

More things should matter to you.

2,152 posted on 11/28/2009 8:03:28 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric
You're right, Cedric.

There was the TARP bailout - the template for Obamanomics.

Then let's not forget dinking around in Iraq from 2004-2006, leaving our soldiers as sitting ducks while the bad guys sniped at them from all those "holy sites".

And leaving all the disastrous executive orders of the Clinton era in force.

And letting groups like ACORN get a start on the federal gravy train.

I'm sure i can think of more things about the GWB admin that matter to me, given a few more minutes.

2,154 posted on 11/28/2009 8:12:12 PM PST by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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To: Cedric
unfounded slur

YOUR post 1071

Note if you will your reference to private parts...

2,155 posted on 11/28/2009 8:12:38 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Notary Sojac

It’s a pleasure to have a fair minded guy around here for a change.


2,156 posted on 11/28/2009 8:14:24 PM PST by Cedric
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To: NoCmpromiz

Thank you for proving my point.

Now if Bosco were half a man he’d apologize.

But, he’s not and, therefore, he won’t.


2,157 posted on 11/28/2009 8:16:21 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Notary Sojac
Don't forget the compassionate conservatism, with millions and millions going to Africa for AIDS prevention. Throwing all that money at a cause with no plan of action or measurable results. Would have rather seen that money spent in the US, if spent at all.

We're the most generous country in the world. Let private citizens continue that tradition, not the government.

Don't forget the stem cell lines he opened to research. Some said it was a reasonable compromise. It just opened the door.

And while we're at it, lets not forget the light bulb thing.

2,158 posted on 11/28/2009 8:16:48 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: mkjessup
So now it's not about being a "rino" but hometown boy who can't inspire??

Do you always move the goalposts/

2,159 posted on 11/28/2009 8:23:36 PM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Solson

Yes, they do and will continue to.


2,160 posted on 11/28/2009 8:25:32 PM PST by Cedric
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