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SEALs Who Caught High-Profile Terrorist Now Face Court-Martial
Human Events ^ | 11/26/2009 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 11/27/2009 8:32:10 AM PST by Irisshlass

The military is throwing the book at three terrorist-hunting Navy SEALs who captured one of the most wanted in Iraq.

It seems one of the commandos may have punched Ahmed Hashim Abed, who intelligence reports said planned the bloody ambush of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah, Iraq, five years ago.

Instead of plaudits, three SEALs face court-martial in January. And conservatives are expressing outrage to HUMAN EVENTS.

Abed, whom the U.S. command designated "Objective Amber," was nabbed in darkness Sept. 3 by a platoon of commandos from SEAL Team 10, based in Norfolk.

The next few hours proved a bit comical. The SEALS took him to an Iraqi police station to enter the country's judicial system. But when the higher-ups were notified, they told the sailors to get him back. He was too valuable. After hours of negotiations, the Iraqis gave him back and Abed ended up in a cell inside the U.S.-secured Green Zone.

Sometime along the way Abed alleged he was punched and showed a bloody lip to prove it.

The military is hypersensitive to any charge of prisoner abuse or any hint of a coverup. A SEAL officer immediately notified the chain of command. Next thing the SEAL platoon knew, they were writing out statements and being investigated by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS).

The SEALs were sent packing back to Norfolk. They will be arraigned next Monday and face separate special courts-martial. The case was first reported Tuesday by FoxNews.com.

Three other SEALs -- two officers and an enlisted man -- in the unit have given statements as witnesses. According to one statement obtained by Fox, the SEAL told investigators he looked in on the detainee and did not see any injuries.

The charges were brought by the commander of the special operations component of U.S. Central Command in Tampa, Fla.

The three SEALs charged:

Matthew McCabe, special operations petty officer second class (SO-2). Offenses: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee; making false official statement; and assault.

Jonathan Keefe, SO-2. Dereliction of performance of duty and making false official statement.

Julio Huertas, SO-1. Dereliction of duty; making false statement and impediment of an investigation.

The March 2004 Fallujah atrocity was a turning point in the war. Insurgents ambushed four Blackwater agents, all former commandoes. They died in a hale of gunfire and grenades. Insurgents then burned the bodies and dragged them through town. Two were hung from a bridge over the Euphrates River, for the world media to see.

The gruesome picture was a wake up call to the U.S. military. It now knew it faced a vicious enemy able to spring attacks throughout the country.

Conservative bloggers are ridiculing the military for filing criminal charges against three brave warriors.

"Navy SEALs betrayed by our own government! Who will be next," one blared.

Another website said, "PC rubbish at its worst."

Elaine Donnelly, who heads the Center for Military Readiness and fights against a political corrected armed forces, said she is appalled.

“This prosecution is a disturbing vision of the demoralizing legal entanglements that our soldiers will face in the future if they capture murderous enemies in a war zone," she told HUMAN EVENTS. "Now that the Obama Administration has decided to play along with terrorists who demand an undeserved show-trial in New York City, terrorists know exactly how to exploit for their own benefit military regulations as well as civilian law. The prosecuting authorities’ thoughtless lack of judgment in this case reminds me of the canary in the coal mine, an unmistakable sign of dangers to come."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackwater; courtmartial; fallujah; norfolk; objectiveamber; rowanscarborough; specialforces; usnavy
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1 posted on 11/27/2009 8:32:10 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass
Payback for cappin those pirate scumbags last year?
2 posted on 11/27/2009 8:36:12 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Irisshlass

Obama and Co don’t have any brains.


3 posted on 11/27/2009 8:36:19 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Irisshlass

Hate to say it, but the SEALs deserve punishment if they acted unprofessionally in their duties. I just hope the guy resisted in order to justify the punch.


4 posted on 11/27/2009 8:36:29 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Irisshlass
Disgusting. 0bama is clearly taking a page from Bush's "prosecute the Border Patrol for doing its job" book.

I wonder how many of our best and brightest in the military are going to simply say "f-this" and quit as soon as they legally can? Why put up with taking bullets for this country if the same country isn't going to back you up when you do right?

5 posted on 11/27/2009 8:39:36 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: antiRepublicrat

The inevitable result with the treasonous Kenyan Poseur and his policies is that no prisoners will be taken. This traitor muct be gotten out of office.


6 posted on 11/27/2009 8:40:14 AM PST by MarkT
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To: Irisshlass

Insanity, this is pure insanity.


7 posted on 11/27/2009 8:40:14 AM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: freekitty

Sure they do, their own agenda. Calculated and planned.

Demoralization of the CIA and the Military!

So much for our security!


8 posted on 11/27/2009 8:41:20 AM PST by himno hero
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To: freekitty

Sure they do, their own agenda. Calculated and planned.

Demoralization of the CIA and the Military!

So much for our security!


9 posted on 11/27/2009 8:41:29 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Irisshlass

The guy hit his face against a bar on the Humvee and blamed it on the SEALs. Big deal.

These men have dedicated years of sweat and toil to this country and are repaid with our government taking the side of a terrorist that wants us DEAD against men that want our country’s enemies dead. We need to take this a****le and waterboard him until he forgets about that split lip and then tells us the Taliban’s and Al Qaeda’s attack strategy.


10 posted on 11/27/2009 8:41:42 AM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: antiRepublicrat
"Hate to say it, but the SEALs deserve punishment if they acted unprofessionally in their duties. I just hope the guy resisted in order to justify the punch."

They should have killed the bastard and left it at that.

11 posted on 11/27/2009 8:42:14 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Irisshlass

I suspect there is much more to this story than the folks who are telling the story are letting on. First clue, as always: we only hear one side of it, and from what I can tell from the coverage I’ve seen, all of the reports are third-hand at best.


12 posted on 11/27/2009 8:43:35 AM PST by r9etb
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To: struggle

These terrorists and our guys are both trained to hit their head against the wall and draw some blood to make it hard on the enemy. It is hard to have someone make a propaganda tape if he looks beat up.


13 posted on 11/27/2009 8:44:01 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Hate to say it, but the SEALs deserve punishment if they acted unprofessionally in their duties. I just hope the guy resisted in order to justify the punch.

It would be nice to have full information on this story ... we're only getting it from one side, though.

14 posted on 11/27/2009 8:45:05 AM PST by r9etb
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To: All

Please consider the problem the military now faces...if some dirt-bag is finally captured, all the dirt-bag has to do is slam his face into the nearest wall and claim he was “punched”.

This will immediately remove the highly trained, and highly skilled soldiers who arrested him from the area. Thus the other dirt-bags will have fewer adversaries chasing them and indanger the remaining U. S. Troops.

I’m sure the morons in charge of this idea will get a thank you card from the enemy for this latest gift.


15 posted on 11/27/2009 8:46:29 AM PST by OhhTee5
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To: Irisshlass

Commanders lost their common sense. Remember a scene from the movie “A Bridge Too Far”. James Caan played this sergeant who brought his wounded lieutenant to an Army surgeon in a forward area hospital. The surgeon briefly looked at the wounded man and declared him dead. The sergeant did not agree so he went after the surgeon and forced him at gunpoint to examine the wounded officer again. This time the surgeon did a more thorough examination and discovered that the lieutenents pupils were still dilating, meaning he was still alive despite the head wound. The surgeon immediately beckoned his staff for surgery. The lieutenant survived. The sergeant offered to be arrested, and the surgeon a full colonel in rank called the MP. He told the MP’s that the sergeant threatened him with a pistol and will be arrested. The MP complied. The sergeant was about to resign to his fate, then the colonel told the MP to hold the sergeant for only 12 seconds and ordered them to release him. Surprised, the MP’s complied for 12 seconds and left. Technically the sergeant did break the rules, but the surgeon understood the field situation why the sergeant did what he did. So he opted to “enforce” the rules, and in his way apologized to the sergeant without destroying the discipline of chain of command. In the end the sergeant returned to the fighting and the surgeon took in the humbling lesson of the day. Hopefully officers like the surgeon still exists in our military.


16 posted on 11/27/2009 8:47:26 AM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Irisshlass

This is sick....too many in leadership roles value the rights of Islamic Terrorists over the rights of our American servicemen

The courts-martial should be done on the military leadership that has zero backbone.

Bet that Michael Savage will be making an issue of this, and raising some money for their defense. Wish that other “conservative” hosts would do the same


17 posted on 11/27/2009 8:47:46 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American Bigotry)
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To: Irisshlass

After reading this I am convinced that we are past the point of no return folks. Political correctness has destroyed our nation.


18 posted on 11/27/2009 8:49:22 AM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Irisshlass

Only a moron didn’t see this coming. The Zero’s policies clearly do not reflect the best interest of the old USA.


19 posted on 11/27/2009 8:49:32 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Irisshlass

These guys refused a Captains Mast (Article 15) on advice of their attorney. They can win in a Courts Martial, but my guess is that the charges will be dropped before then.


20 posted on 11/27/2009 8:50:43 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Irisshlass

A few days ago, when this was breaking, one poster here opined that this may be the military’s way of forestalling any public court (including the court of public opinion) of kangaroo-trialling these sailors. They would be advised by the military tribunal (privately) that they would not be harshly punished, and would subsequently be fined some trivial amount and/or “confined” to quarters on some particularly miserable winter weekend afternoon (probably during playoff season).


21 posted on 11/27/2009 8:50:52 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Irisshlass
How can anyone say anything in favor of this savage who mutilated and killed 4 we know of ,then cry about a bump on the head?? Personally I am surprised by a couple of the replies here.
22 posted on 11/27/2009 8:51:04 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: blackbart.223

Eaxctly. Dead terrosists dont complain about split lips.

The way our military is treated in this war I wouldnt blame any of them if they just left post, and bought a ticket home on the first commercial flight.


23 posted on 11/27/2009 8:51:22 AM PST by Venturer
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To: antiRepublicrat

There’s NO evidence that they acted unprofessionally. This terrorist could have smacked his face against the wall himself, or maybe he fought and they had to subdue him.
Notice the military automatically believes the terrorist and charges our own men. How putrid.


24 posted on 11/27/2009 8:56:53 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Irisshlass

SO-2

In 22 and a half years in the Navy, I never saw this paygrade...


25 posted on 11/27/2009 8:58:05 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: antiRepublicrat

In response to your comment I hate to say it but it is the thought process from people like you that the socialist communists use to try and tie the hands of our military behind their backs. This is an ungoing saga started in Viet Nam where the socialist politicians applied rules of engagement upon the military to turn them into world policemen. It all comes down to if you are going to fight a war and win, you fight the war. Use all tools and measures necessary to accomplish victory. If not you become the political paper tiger the Obama and the socialist communists would like our military to be in order to further their agenda. So the American people need to decide whether we are going to allow the communists in Washington to continue to degrade and humiliate our military while continuing to kiss the asses of the enemy that fill their coffers, or draw the line and demand victory.


26 posted on 11/27/2009 8:59:42 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: freekitty

Obama and Co don’t have any brains

I know that we hated the libs blaming everything on Bush...is this paypack for eight years of blaming everything on Bush??? I wonder if Obama called the Commander and said book them!!! Remember it took 90 days to make a decision on whether to send more folks to Afganistan. I hardly believe he knew anything about this case until the media mentioned it. You give Obama too much credit.


27 posted on 11/27/2009 9:00:22 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: antiRepublicrat

Obviously you never severed. This is horse $hit. The SEALs are a military force and not a police force.


28 posted on 11/27/2009 9:02:43 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Irisshlass
Busted lips save ships. If all this turd got was a busted lip, they must have handled his capture with kid gloves.

Looks like this administration is sending our sons and daughters into dangerous situations and then court marshaling them for doing their duty and/or defending themselves. This SUCKS!

29 posted on 11/27/2009 9:04:14 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (America is ailin'-the cure is Palin.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

“Hate to say it, but the SEALs deserve punishment if they acted unprofessionally in their duties. I just hope the guy resisted in order to justify the punch.”

When you start up the prosecution machinery against your own guys on so slight, so insignificant a thing as this then I’d say your tired of being a great nation.


30 posted on 11/27/2009 9:04:58 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: Irisshlass

Now they have a taste of what our government is all about. When those SEALS get out of jail, they should use their training to turn against the US Government.


31 posted on 11/27/2009 9:05:50 AM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

This is fantastic anti-obama propaganda. Stories like this are the best thing that can happen...


32 posted on 11/27/2009 9:07:24 AM PST by olepap
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To: Venturer

Yah these young men have no jobs to come home to. The military is great - work with a team, top-notch equipment, a challenge. Plus training in use of lethal weaponry. We need our young trained like this. The PC wave has crested, imho, is now collapsing due to internal contradictions (as the marxists say). Be of good cheer. This is a cause celebre for us, the good guys!

Support our seals!


33 posted on 11/27/2009 9:07:25 AM PST by olepap (Do not go gentle)
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To: Fee

Sergeant Eddie Dohun was based upon the real-life SSGT Charles Dohun. Just parenthetically, it didn’t quite happen that way in real-life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bridge_Too_Far_%28film%29#cite_note-18


34 posted on 11/27/2009 9:10:28 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Hate to say it, but the SEALs deserve punishment if they acted unprofessionally in their duties. I just hope the guy resisted in order to justify the punch.

What???!!! First, noone knows if the dude was ever punched. This is trick that every terrorist knows. Allege abuse; use the military's ROE's against them.

Second, the terrorist was in multiple hands, SEALs, Iraqi's, then on to the US Green Zone. Any "punch" could have happened by the Iraqis or by his own efforts.

Third, you think the SEALs deserve punishment if they punched the terrorist who masterminded shooting, grenading, dragging dead bodies through the streets, burning them, then hanging two of the four mutilated bodies from a bridge to show the world????!!!!!!

I don't.
35 posted on 11/27/2009 9:10:59 AM PST by Girlene
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To: napscoordinator

Special Ops 1, Special Ops 2??? I don’t know.


36 posted on 11/27/2009 9:11:41 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: r9etb

we’re only getting it from one side, though.

And what side is that?


37 posted on 11/27/2009 9:17:21 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“These guys refused a Captains Mast (Article 15) on advice of their attorney.”

The SEAL Code

• Loyalty to Country, Team and Teammate
• Serve with Honor and Integrity On and Off the Battlefield
• Ready to Lead, Ready to Follow, Never Quit
• Take responsibility for your actions and the actions of your teammates
• Excel as Warriors through Discipline and Innovation
• Train for War, Fight to Win, Defeat our Nation’s Enemies
• Earn your Trident everyday

United States Navy SEAL

In times of war or uncertainty there is a special breed of warrior ready to answer our Nation’s call. A common man with uncommon desire to succeed.

Forged by adversity, he stands alongside America’s finest special operations forces to serve his country, the American people, and protect their way of life.

I am that man.

My Trident is a symbol of honor and heritage. Bestowed upon me by the heroes that have gone before, it embodies the trust of those I have sworn to protect. By wearing the Trident I accept the responsibility of my chosen profession and way of life. It is a privilege that I must earn every day.

My loyalty to Country and Team is beyond reproach. I humbly serve as a guardian to my fellow Americans always ready to defend those who are unable to defend themselves. I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions. I voluntarily accept the inherent hazards of my profession, placing the welfare and security of others before my own.

I serve with honor on and off the battlefield. The ability to control my emotions and my actions, regardless of circumstance, sets me apart from other men.

Uncompromising integrity is my standard. My character and honor are steadfast. My word is my bond.

We expect to lead and be led. In the absence of orders I will take charge, lead my teammates and accomplish the mission. I lead by example in all situations.

I will never quit. I persevere and thrive on adversity. My Nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down, I will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight.

We demand discipline. We expect innovation. The lives of my teammates and the success of our mission depend on me - my technical skill, tactical proficiency, and attention to detail. My training is never complete.

We train for war and fight to win. I stand ready to bring the full spectrum of combat power to bear in order to achieve my mission and the goals established by my country. The execution of my duties will be swift and violent when required yet guided by the very principles that I serve to defend.

Brave men have fought and died building the proud tradition and feared reputation that I am bound to uphold. In the worst of conditions, the legacy of my teammates steadies my resolve and silently guides my every deed. I will not fail.


38 posted on 11/27/2009 9:29:04 AM PST by blue-duncan
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To: antiRepublicrat
"Hate to say it, but the SEALs deserve punishment if they acted unprofessionally in their duties. I just hope the guy resisted in order to justify the punch."

I sincerely doubt this terrorist came quietly. And if ONE Seal acted unprofessionally and punched the guy, I do not see the indictments against them as JUST punishment.

It seems to me that commanders are of the Wesley Clark, John Murtha, John Kerry persuasion, and are too quick to throw the book.

It would take more time and space than is available to tell you just how little I care if this thug got a belly punch and/or a split lip in the rough and tumble of capture.

vaudine

39 posted on 11/27/2009 9:33:29 AM PST by vaudine
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To: OhhTee5

Yeah! If this report is accurate, then the entire SEAL platoon was transfered back to Norfolk. This Jihadi couldn’t have done better if he’d had a grenade.


40 posted on 11/27/2009 9:39:44 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: vaudine

Just another tipping point.


41 posted on 11/27/2009 9:40:11 AM PST by Herodes
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To: Irisshlass
The deconstruction of our military is appalling.

The Political Correctness in the military be it
Fallujah or Foot Hood
marks the downfall of this once Christian Republic.

YHvH come quickly for our salvation.

Leave the world to the it's prince: the Evil One.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

42 posted on 11/27/2009 9:44:02 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: antiRepublicrat; blackbart.223; Venturer

Your statement reflects the epitome of cluelessness.

Professionalism for a warrior is to friggin KILL the enemy. As it is, they were probably having to follow inane orders that ultimately lead to the likes of KSM and crew being given a trial as if they were upstanding citizens.

We have become a country of wussies because of attitudes like this... the terrorists know it, and are laughing.


43 posted on 11/27/2009 9:49:56 AM PST by plsjr (<>< ... reality always gets the last vote.)
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To: Sprite518
"Obviously you never severed. This is horse $hit. The SEALs are a military force and not a police force."

Exactly. You can go to any school yard and find someone with a fat lip. I got one or two and I gave several in return. This beyond belief.

44 posted on 11/27/2009 9:49:58 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
"Hate to say it, but the SEALs deserve punishment if they acted unprofessionally in their duties. I just hope the guy resisted in order to justify the punch. "

ohhhh me toooooooo.

And I hope he gets a nice corner cell, with a view, and flowers.

I'm sure obama will come in personally to bow and apologize because one of his fellow muslims didn't get his Miranda rights read to him.

Maybe they'll acquit him and assign him to be a personal assistant to Major hasan after they both get off on technicalities.

I mean, it doesn't mean a thing that these people are out to wipe out everyone but muslims, so we should take those naughty little Seals and give them at least 30 years hard labor at Leavenworth.

/sarcasm


As far as "acting unprofessional"...they acted entirely within their profession, capturing and killing terrorists. People get worse injuries in a high school football game than this guy got.

This is not military discipline, it's POLITICAL CORRECTNESS gone amuck.
45 posted on 11/27/2009 9:55:31 AM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

My guess is that you have never been in combat.


46 posted on 11/27/2009 9:55:31 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Irisshlass

Getting ridiculous. Rules of engagement now include giving the Miranda Warning and a Latte.


47 posted on 11/27/2009 9:57:27 AM PST by discipler (How's that 'hope and change' working for 'ya? - RL)
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To: MestaMachine; 444Flyer

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48 posted on 11/27/2009 10:05:28 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I would have joined this cause, but the author uses too much profanity. :(


50 posted on 11/27/2009 10:11:35 AM PST by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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