Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Did Barack Obama Lie About His Birth To Become President?
Telegraph(UK) ^ | November 27th 2009

Posted on 11/27/2009 6:28:50 PM PST by Steelfish

Did Barack Obama Lie About His Birth To Become President?

DAVID JONES, 27th November 2009.

As a highly regarded young detective, Neil Sankey was once seconded to elite Scotland Yard units hunting down IRA bombers, dangerous anarchists and organised crime barons.

Today, however, almost 30 years after quitting Hampshire constabulary to become a private investigator in California, he is wrestling with an inquiry that is as controversial as it is complex; one that makes that his former police work seem mundane by comparison.

Now aged 64, and semi-retired, Mr Sankey is attempting to prove that Barack Obama is guilty of the most audacious act of fraud in U.S political history, having become President when he was not even eligible to run for office.

The infant Obama with his mother, Ann Dunham, who met his father at university He is conducting his inquiries on behalf of a protest group known as the 'Birthers' - so-called because they claim Obama lied about his birth place to satisfy the requirements of the U.S constitution, which stipulates that the President must be a 'natural born' American citizen.

According to his biography, Obama was born 48 years ago in Hawaii, the 50th state of the union. But the Birthers are convinced that he came into the world in Kenya..

'As an investigator it has become obvious to me that something very strange is going on,' he intoned gravely when we spoke this week. 'His background throws up all kinds of anomalies. It may sound incredible (but) this guy comes from nowhere. No one really knows who he is.'

To most Americans, of course, the very idea that anyone could cheat their way into the world's most powerful post by rewriting their personal history sounds preposterous.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; jones; kenya; obama; orlytaitz; rhetoricalquestion; soetoro
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-95 next last
To: Steelfish

Can’t say he lied about it, no one dare question it.


61 posted on 11/27/2009 8:13:26 PM PST by presently no screen name
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Non-Sequitur
if there was something to be found then someone would have found it by now

LOL!! You mean he doesn't have a long form BC or doesn't have a passport, or doesn't have his college records, etc., etc. With your thought process - he doesn't exist!
62 posted on 11/27/2009 8:19:17 PM PST by presently no screen name
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish
As the President's spokesman Robert Gibbs says, no evidence will ever be enough to 'assuage those that don't believe he was born here'

Not true, present a long form BC.

63 posted on 11/27/2009 8:19:42 PM PST by BARLF
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Non-Sequitur
I don't have explanations or answers, only observations and questions.

Most Presidents and Presidential candidates, willingly or otherwise, eventually open their personal history and records for public viewing. Usually, they do this very early. obama, his "autobiographies" notwithstanding, apparently has chosen a different path and his records are not for public consumption. This is very curious, especially if opinions regarding obama's narcissistic ego are true.

Others have said he has spent a fairly large sum to actively hide his records and use lawyers to fight to keep his records private. Again, why? Political gamesmanship or something else?

When I try to answer my own questions, I remember the various Clinton dalliances and psuedo-scandals. As someone said of Clinton, "It's not so much what you know, but what you can prove."

Do you have an opinion why these questions about obama remain unanswered and why obama apparently chooses not to answer them?

64 posted on 11/27/2009 8:22:45 PM PST by GBA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish
Do in the woods?
65 posted on 11/27/2009 8:45:07 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ASA Vet

I don’t recall any mention of that tract in the Constitution, which would, in fact however, give over that document’s founding to “international, and specifically, European law” which so many today seem so adamantly opposed to. Thus I’d ask in that context, “Which is it then? American Constitutional appeals to international law, or not?”

Though my initial observation herein seems simple enough. Will The Supreme Court take this issue up, or not? I suspect not, in which case the matter would seem settled by the Justices as it is, yours or my huffing and puffing notwithstanding.

If they do take the issue up then I would certainly be interested. But, as I said originally, I don’t believe they will. Thus, in that case, I would consider the issue as settled, yours or my liking it or not.


66 posted on 11/27/2009 8:46:15 PM PST by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: onedoug
I suggest you get this book when it's released and read Chapter 1

Oxford University Press USA

America and the Law of Nations 1776-1939
Mark Weston Janis

ISBN13: 9780199579341
ISBN10: 0199579342 Hardback, 320 pages
Jun 2010, Not Yet Published

Description
The American Tradition of International Law 1776-1939 is a unique exploration of the ways in which Americans have
perceived, applied, advanced, and frustrated international law.
It demonstrates the varieties and continuities of America's approaches to international law.
The book begins with the important role the law of nations played for founders like Jefferson and Madison
in framing the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
It then discusses the intellectual contributions to international law made by leaders in the New Republic -Kent and Wheaton-
and the place of international law in the 19th century judgments of Marshall, Story, and Taney.
The book goes on to examine the contributions of American utopians -Dodge, Worcester, Ladd, Burritt, and Carnegie-
to the establishment of the League of Nations, the World Court,
the International Law Association and the American Society of International Law.
It finishes with an analysis of the wavering support to international law given by Woodrow Wilson
and the emergence of a new American isolationism following the disappointment of World War I.

For anyone who hopes to understand the important place of international law in America and the
complex role of America in the development of international law,
The American Tradition of International Law 1776-1939 is a crucial read.

Table of Contents
1. The Law of Nations and the New Republic: Jefferson and Madison
2. The Law of Nations and International Law: Blackstone and Bentham
3. International Law and American Law: Marshall and Story
4. The International Law of Christendom: Kent and Wheaton
5. International Law and American Diplomacy: Jay and Webster
6. The Utopians: Dodge, Worcester, Ladd and Burritt
7. Slavery and American Exceptionalism: Taney and his Court
8. The Codification and Science of International Law: Lieber, Field and Wharton
9. The Alabama Arbitration and its Progeny: The International Law Association and the American Society of International Law
10. The New Utopians: Brace, Hill and Carnegie
11. The Reluctant International Law Enthusiast: Wilson
12. The Profession of International Law: Root and Scott
13. After Utopia: International Law and Isolationism

About the Author(s)
Mark Weston Janis is William F. Starr Professor of Law at the University of Connecticut School of Law.
Born in Chicago in 1947, he is a graduate of Princeton (A.B. 1969),
Oxford (B.A. 1972) where he was a Rhodes scholar, and Harvard (J.D. 1977).
He served as a U.S. naval officer (1972-75), and practiced international corporate and financial law
with Sullivan & Cromwell in New York and Paris (1977-80).
He first joined the faculty at Connecticut in 1980.
He was for four years (1993-97) a member of the law faculty of the University of Oxford in England
where he was Reader in Law, Fellow of Exeter College, and Director of Graduate Legal Studies (Research Degrees).
He is the author of three widely-adopted law school books:
An Introduction to International Law (Aspen 5th edn 2008),
Cases and Commentary on International Law (West 3rd edn 2006),
and European Human Rights Law (OUP 3rd edn 2008).
He has also published more than 50 articles on international law.

67 posted on 11/27/2009 8:48:22 PM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: Jeremiah Jr; null and void; freema
'His background throws up all kinds of anomalies. It may sound incredible (but) this guy comes from nowhere. No one really knows who he is.'

Kind of like Gog from Magog - noone can conclude with any certainty who or where this is.

Maybe it's all plain as day, a president (nasi) who is probably of foreign origin.

08422 Tuwbal {too-bal'} or Tubal {too-bal'}
probably of foreign derivation;; n pr m
AV - Tubal 8; 8
Tubal = "thou shall be brought"

And

04902 Meshek {meh'-shek}
the same in form as 04901, but probably of foreign derivation;; n pr m
AV - Meshech 8, Mesech 1; 9
Mesech or Meshech = "drawing out"

68 posted on 11/27/2009 8:51:48 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smokeyblue
With no birth certificate how do you know Ann Dunham is even his birth mother?

Indeed. So bring it forward. Let's see if it bears out, ultimately to the Supreme Court.

I doubt they'll ever take it up.

69 posted on 11/27/2009 8:52:29 PM PST by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

Thanks for posting Steelfish.

I have been caling Obama “The Man From Nowhere” since was nominated.


70 posted on 11/27/2009 8:52:56 PM PST by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * PALIN * JINDAL * CANTOR 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: the invisib1e hand

Thank-you for my riotous laugh of the night!


71 posted on 11/27/2009 8:56:35 PM PST by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Cincinna

Your welcome. I was stunned to see issue validated by a major UK newspaper what the US MSM refuses to touch.


72 posted on 11/27/2009 9:24:54 PM PST by Steelfish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

Wait, Malcom X is his father????? I thought Frank Marshall Davis was his father . . . . now I’m really confused.


73 posted on 11/27/2009 9:42:45 PM PST by stranger and pilgrim
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

Bump!!


74 posted on 11/27/2009 10:28:44 PM PST by circumbendibus (Where's the Birth Certificate?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: Non-Sequitur
Why hasn't one of those astute and reasonably well connected detective types gotten any answers yet?

Because George Soros, et al, have more money to hire more "agents" who can cover up faster than the "Birthers" can uncover stuff.

Be that as it may, nothing beyond what is in his books is required. His father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth(or ever). Therefore while he may be a citizen, depending on where and exactly when he was born, he is not and cannot be a Natural Born citizen.

75 posted on 11/27/2009 11:14:52 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: Man50D

Personally, I think President soetoro’s birth by a mother who was an American citizen is sufficient, and I don’t expect the Supreme Court to ever take it up.

I AGREE


76 posted on 11/28/2009 1:47:36 AM PST by dixjea
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: dixjea
Personally, I think President soetoro’s birth by a mother who was an American citizen is sufficient, and I don’t expect the Supreme Court to ever take it up.

I didn't make this comment. Regardless of that fact, Federal law at the time BO was born required a parent to have been physically present in the U.S. for at least ten years with five of those years after the age of fourteen in order to transfer her U.S. citizenship to BO. This means he needed to be at least nineteen when she gave birth but she was only eighteen. Consequently she could not transfer her citizenship to him.

Chances increase SCOTUS will review his eligibility as more Presentments are served nationwide. This has been and is continuing to happen.
77 posted on 11/28/2009 4:19:32 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

“Did Barack Obama Lie About His Birth To Become President?”
*****************************

???

Do a bear **** in the woods!

Semper WTF?
Dick G
**** *


78 posted on 11/28/2009 4:24:43 AM PST by gunnyg (Just An Old Gunny ~ And *Still* Not A F'en Commie Basterd!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish
Did Barack Obama Lie About His Birth To Become President?

He's not the president. He's a usurper who site in the Oval Office as a result of a coup d'etat, the sudden unconstitutional deposition of a government, usually by a small group of the existing state establishment. A coup d’état succeeds when the usurper establishes his legitimacy.


79 posted on 11/28/2009 4:42:08 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Beckwith
He's a usurper who site sits in the Oval Office.

Sorry -- I'm working with one eye.
80 posted on 11/28/2009 4:43:59 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-95 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson