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EDITORIAL: The true meaning of Xmas
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/27/the-true-meaning-of-xmas/ ^ | 11/27/09 | The Washington Times

Posted on 11/27/2009 7:01:22 PM PST by paltz

Thanksgiving is over and Black Friday has arrived. With the Christmas season now semiofficially upon us, tradition dictates that consumers flood shopping malls and online marketplaces to buy everything in sight. At the same time, politically motivated busybodies stop at nothing to distract from, deny or delete any references to that Jesus guy who may or may not have inspired the holiday known as Xmas. The "X" stands for we can't remember what.

Every year, chain stores, schools, local town councils, advertisers and others needlessly put themselves in the middle of the Christmas censorship debate in an effort to appease the politically correct grinch.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristmas; christmas; sourcetitlenoturl; xmas

1 posted on 11/27/2009 7:01:22 PM PST by paltz
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To: paltz

I know there are many excuses and rational for using the word XMAS, but it still bothers me. It is Christmas!!! Not Xmas. Just a personal thing.


2 posted on 11/27/2009 7:22:14 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: paltz

The X-mas is very insulting. Similar to sending a birthday card to family or friend with the title ‘Happy Birthday X.’
Keep Christ in Christmas.


3 posted on 11/27/2009 7:24:28 PM PST by tflabo
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To: paltz
Eid al-Adha, by the way, for those who don't know, is the Islamic "festival of sacrifice" that concludes the Hajj, which is the annual pilgrimage to Mecca.

The "mas" in "X-mas," by the way, for those who don't know, is the Catholic "Mass." That's the true meaning of "Christmas." How is the Protestant custom of stripping the "Mass" out of a Catholic Mass better than the Atheist tradition of also stripping the cheap plastic idols of white people and animals out?

4 posted on 11/27/2009 7:26:26 PM PST by Anti-Utopian
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To: paltz

The X of Xmas began as a reference to the Greek letter Chi which looks like the English X but is pronounced as a rough kh. It is the first letter of the Greek word Christos which means messiah (or as we transliterate it, Christ). The -mas suffix is a term for the serving of communion traditionally done by the church upon the December 25 holiday in remembrance of the birth of Jesus.

So no, Xmas was not coined as a blasphemous term. But few stop to think what it means.


5 posted on 11/27/2009 7:34:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: Anti-Utopian

Many evangelical churches do serve communion on Christmas eve.


6 posted on 11/27/2009 7:35:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The Mass is the complex of prayers and ceremonies that make up the service of the Eucharist in the Latin rites. The term "Mass" is derived from the Late Latin word missa (dismissal), a word used in the concluding formula of Mass in Latin: "Ite, missa est" ("Go; it is the dismissal").

A Protestant communion, even an Anglican or Lutheran communion, isn't a Catholic Mass by any measure.

7 posted on 11/27/2009 7:55:05 PM PST by Anti-Utopian
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To: Anti-Utopian

It is not intended to be.


8 posted on 11/27/2009 7:55:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: tflabo
The "X" in Xmas is from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of Χριστός, Christ in Greek.
9 posted on 11/27/2009 8:17:42 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take you pick.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Therefore, the only people who have a right to be cheesed about Christ-Mass being modified are the Catholics, who had their Mass warped into a Protestant holiday, the European pagans, who had their retarded winter rituals warped into a Catholic holiday, and Jesus Christ, who never initiated any of it and would rather you obey Him instead of fighting over a day he never commanded you to lionize.


10 posted on 11/27/2009 8:30:06 PM PST by Anti-Utopian
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To: Anti-Utopian

You are one of many false dichotomists.


11 posted on 11/27/2009 8:32:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: paltz

If we can call Christmas X-mas, can we also call Hanukkah X-kah?


12 posted on 11/27/2009 8:38:35 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 29 days away from outliving Lefty Frizzell)
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To: paltz

If the author understood the meaning, he wouldn’t have used the term “Xmas”.

SnakeDoc


13 posted on 11/27/2009 8:38:39 PM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: paltz; LibreOuMort; Salvation; NYer
With the Christmas season now semiofficially upon us

Glad it's only "semi-officially" because for some of us it doesn't arrive* arrive until the evening of December 24th. From this Sunday until then, it's the season of Advent. A penitential season, not party time.

And the 12 Days of Christmas traditionally and historically begin, not end, on Christmas Day.

14 posted on 11/27/2009 8:39:54 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: donna

A pseudo-intellectual junk explanation for substituting “X” for “Christ”. Most people who use the term don’t know or care that Christ starts with X in Greek. We speak English here.

SnakeDoc


15 posted on 11/27/2009 8:39:56 PM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: Anti-Utopian

>> the only people who have a right to be cheesed about Christ-Mass being modified are the Catholics

BS.

>> who had their Mass warped into a Protestant holiday

Not sure I’d pull at that thread if I were you. Protestants do not “warp” Christmas.

SnakeDoc


16 posted on 11/27/2009 8:48:14 PM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: Anti-Utopian

I normally would say “Welcome to FR” but in your case let me say “GO BACK TO DU OR WHEREVER YOU CAME FROM.”


17 posted on 11/27/2009 9:06:25 PM PST by Peacekeeper357 (Monthly donor since joining FR. Become a monthly donor,now.)
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To: tflabo; doc1019; paltz
In notetaking, a capital X is often used as an abbreviation for Christ. In fact in the Greek acronym ΙΧΦΥΣ, transliterated "Ichthus", and often seen inside the the outline of a fish, the letter Chi (X) stands for Christ. So even when people use the abbreviation X-mas, they still haven't really taken Christ out of Christmas.
18 posted on 11/27/2009 9:22:12 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: SnakeDoctor
The first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R). These letters were used in the early church to create the chi-rho monogram (see Christian Symbols: Christmas Ornaments), a symbol that by the fourth century became part of the official battle standard of the emperor Constantine.

In 1436 Johannes Gutenberg invented the printing press with moveable type. In the early days of printing typesetting was done by hand and was very tedious and expensive. As a result, abbreviations were common. In religious publications, the church began to use the abbreviation C for the word "Christ" to cut down on the cost of the books and pamphlets. From there, the abbreviation moved into general use in newspapers and other publications, and "Xmas" became an accepted way of printing "Christmas" (along with the abbreviations Xian and Xianity). Even Webster’s dictionary acknowledges that the abbreviation Xmas was in common use by the middle of the sixteenth century.
Source: http://www.cresourcei.org/symbols/xmasorigin.html

19 posted on 11/27/2009 9:23:44 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation.)
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To: VRWCmember

I still prefer Christmas over Xmas. Xmas just seems to belittle the birth of Christ. IMHO


20 posted on 11/27/2009 9:26:55 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: doc1019
I prefer it too, but at least recognize that it originated as an abbreviation in which X = Christ. ΙΧΦΥΣ = Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior.
21 posted on 11/27/2009 9:38:35 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: donna
The first two letters of the word Christ (cristoV, or as it would be written in older manuscripts, CRISTOS) are the Greek letters chi (c or C) and rho (r or R).

But the Greek letter Chi looks like X, and the Greek letter Rho looks like P. So the first two letters of Christ would be XP.

22 posted on 11/27/2009 9:40:54 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
Great, if you are a Greek scholar, for the rest of us, we prefer Christmas.

The history of Xmas in America comes more from greed then as an abbreviation of Christmas. It fit better on advertisements then the longer word “Christmas”.

23 posted on 11/27/2009 9:51:03 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; paltz; tflabo

I figure it would also be a shorter way of saying it. I imagine some children when first starting to write would rather write that than spell it out fully. Can’t exactly yell at a 7 year old for that.


24 posted on 11/27/2009 10:13:12 PM PST by wastedyears (My 15 seconds of fame are on my profile.)
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To: VRWCmember

Weird, at the link it looks like a “p” but when I copy and paste it comes out as “r or R”.


25 posted on 11/27/2009 11:09:45 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation.)
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To: All

The X doesn’t bother me. It’s the use of the word “holiday” as a substitute for “Christmas” that torks me off. I scream at most commercials this time of year.


26 posted on 11/27/2009 11:49:53 PM PST by Luke21
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To: doc1019

I don’t like it either.


27 posted on 11/28/2009 12:21:14 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: paltz
The author needs a lesson!


28 posted on 11/28/2009 12:22:09 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: paltz

It’s all part of the master plan to turn the US into a Godless communist gulag. Zimbabwe here we come.


29 posted on 11/28/2009 3:05:23 AM PST by hershey (uote.)
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To: Anti-Utopian

“Therefore, the only people who have a right to be cheesed about Christ-Mass being modified are the Catholics, who had their Mass warped into a Protestant holiday, the European pagans, who had their retarded winter rituals warped into a Catholic holiday, and Jesus Christ, who never initiated any of it and would rather you obey Him instead of fighting over a day he never commanded you to lionize.”

Ah! A breath of fresh air at a time of year stifled with superstition!


30 posted on 11/28/2009 4:36:49 AM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“You are one of many false dichotomists.”

No. The falsity is in the date of Christ’s birth. The Feast of Tabernacles foretold the incarnation, God Himself moving into a human body. He was born in late September or early October. The shepherds aren’t out in the fields in December.

December 25th is the pagan feast of the unconquered sun from Babylon and the Roman Saturnalia, celebrated by the exchanging of gifts and much drinking..


31 posted on 11/28/2009 4:48:36 AM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: SnakeDoctor

No, it’s not pseudo-intellectual junk. There are still people who read the NT in Greek and the Septuagint OT - which is the version Christ himself quotes on numerous occasions.


32 posted on 11/28/2009 7:32:02 AM PST by sola_fide
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To: doc1019
Great, if you are a Greek scholar, for the rest of us, we prefer Christmas.

I'm no Greek scholar, I probably know less about the greek alphabet than most frat boys; and about the only thing I actually know how to say in Greek is "Thank You" (afgaristo). However, as a student of the Gospel (especially since much of the early church spoke Greek and Paul wrote most of his epistles in Greek), a rudimentary understanding of how the greek culture influenced Christianity is a good thing.

33 posted on 11/28/2009 7:49:22 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: donna

So, the first two letters of Christ in Greek are “XP”. Windows operating system before Vista was “XP” and now Vista is being replaced by Windows 7, which is the number of perfection and completeness in Scriptural symbology. Hmmm, could Bill Gates be secretly trying to convert the whole world to Christianity?

(I don’t need a sarcasm tag, do I?)


34 posted on 11/28/2009 7:54:05 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Or, Bill Gates thinks he is god!


35 posted on 11/28/2009 11:38:02 AM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation.)
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To: RoadTest

You too misidentify the correct issues.


36 posted on 11/28/2009 2:00:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“You too misidentify the correct issues.”

Which are - - - - - ?


37 posted on 11/28/2009 2:15:12 PM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: RoadTest

Let’s start with what they aren’t, idem est: substantially strawman matters.


38 posted on 11/28/2009 2:16:43 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Strawman matters, like worshipping the wrong God? Saturn?


39 posted on 11/28/2009 2:19:58 PM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: RoadTest

False accusations that Christians are doing that.


40 posted on 11/28/2009 2:23:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“False accusations that Christians are doing that.”

Christians, by definition, aren’t worshipping the wrong God.


41 posted on 11/28/2009 2:26:54 PM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: RoadTest

Therefore those like you who insinuate such should take their insinuations and go away.


42 posted on 11/28/2009 2:30:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Therefore those like you who insinuate such should take their insinuations and go away.”

I will do that.


43 posted on 11/28/2009 2:44:37 PM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: donna

LOL!


44 posted on 11/28/2009 6:17:56 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Aw, now I had to go and spoil some anti-Christmas parties.

It was a church practice for centuries, when its missions encountered a pagan festival, for it to attempt to eclipse the pagan occasion by promoting a remembrance related to a saint or other holy happening. This worked more or less well at the time, but risked what we see now, which is people coming along centuries later with only a selective historical knowledge, and baselessly accusing the church festival of being a front for pagan practices.

Almost nobody in the modern evangelical churches is dogmatic about placing the historical nativity on a literal December 25 date. Some speculate a time close to Passover, some speculate other Jewish festivals when lambs would be widely needed. Since this was a time when Caesar’s draconian census literally required return to ancestral lands, the resultant crowding might be another reason that shepherds would be found out in the fields rather than downtown. So it could literally have been any day of the year. Not even the methodical gospel of Luke bothers to single out a date. But the date serves as a convenient time to hold a remembrance of the nativity. There is no other Christian holiday which “taints” the secular world more with the gospel than Christmas. Not even Easter comes close.


45 posted on 11/29/2009 1:03:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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