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"Real, Original" Data Posted at CRU Site
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Posted on 11/28/2009 7:14:48 PM PST by Sneakyuser

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To: THX 1138
I wouldn’t trust a damn thing that I see on RealClimate...

Agreed... and I'm not going to trust anything until Steve McIntyre has reviewed it and says that it passes the smell test and should be trusted......

21 posted on 11/28/2009 8:00:49 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest... ("Sooner or later in life, we all sit down to a banquet of consequences." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: muawiyah
Bet they didn't say that last week. We can only wonder what they will say when some of the governments who gave them grants under false premises haul their little fannies to court and strip them down to the bare meat!

Their work is an UN mandate, how do we know they did not purchase brand new computers and install only the particular data they want released?

22 posted on 11/28/2009 8:02:36 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: muawiyah

http://www.ipcc.ch/organization/organization_history.htm


23 posted on 11/28/2009 8:02:59 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Billthedrill

What gets obfuscated is the fact that researchers who wanted access to the data in question had to go through the FOIA process to freaking begin with! It’s as obvious as a blister that they weren’t able to simply request the data through normal channels and have that request fulfilled. FOIA is a means by which government agancies are FORCED to cough up information and is probably the last option short of gunpoint. FOIA in this spectacle means STONEWALL.


24 posted on 11/28/2009 8:23:41 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui (consciousness is a heads up display)
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To: Incorrigible

See post #11, that is where the fraud begins. They dumped all of the raw data after they did “value added manipulation”. No real scientist destroys their raw data, ever, never.


25 posted on 11/28/2009 8:39:28 PM PST by davetex (If it's in stock, we've got it.)
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To: CottShop

Good post. The data has been destroyed. We can’t trust these fools. The only real data we have is the satellites...and even that is suspect because John Christy adjusted it too...and I think he’s one of the good guys.


26 posted on 11/28/2009 9:07:27 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
It no longer matters if they can fool non-scientists. Real scientists are embarrassed about this and these people will now undergo much more scrutiny. They will also be less likely to be able to browbeat people with other views into shutting up and hunkering down.

They can play pop-science games with the public all they want now.....the real scientific community is going to be on their butts.
27 posted on 11/28/2009 9:47:22 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: I got the rope
It no longer matters if they can fool non-scientists. Real scientists are embarrassed about this and these people will now undergo much more scrutiny. They will also be less likely to be able to browbeat people with other views into shutting up and hunkering down.

They can play pop-science games with the public all they want now.....the real scientific community is going to be on their butts.
28 posted on 11/28/2009 9:47:26 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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29 posted on 11/28/2009 10:06:52 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Sneakyuser

-We need FORENSIC computer specialists to examine the DB, not just “published” data.

-The Peer Review process needs to be examined (it is corrupt).


30 posted on 11/29/2009 5:42:18 AM PST by oiler (Reagan Republicans Unite!!!!! It's the Constitution Stupid. Palin and Bachmann in 2012)
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To: Sneakyuser; Little Bill; Nervous Tick; 4horses+amule; Desdemona; Fractal Trader; grey_whiskers; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

31 posted on 11/29/2009 10:16:15 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: Sneakyuser

A lot of the links only go to graphics and you still can’t download raw data.

For example, the satellite temperature record, you can only see two years at a time and can’t do any analysis on the data because you need at least 20 years of data to establish any trends.


32 posted on 11/29/2009 11:32:16 AM PST by dila813
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