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Mark Steyn: The Dog Ate My Tree Rings
National Review Online ^ | November 29, 2009 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/30/2009 10:30:23 AM PST by neverdem

The most obvious thing that strikes anyone wading through the CRU documents is how easy it was for a small number of "experts" to propel their data-raped conclusions first into a "peer-reviewed" "consensus" and then up through western governments into the international fait accomplis of Kyoto, the IPCC and now Copenhagen. I initially assumed stuff like this was just a bit of naked obstructionism toward a few troublemakers:

I find it hard to believe that the British Antarctic Survey would permit the deletion of relevant files for two recent publications or that there aren't any backups for the deleted data on institutional servers.

But no, it was systemic. Hysterical queens like Gordon Brown are demanding we introduce global taxation, micro-regulation of every aspect of your life, massive multi-trillion dollar transfers from the productive sector to eco-rackets and transnational bureaucracies, bovine flatulence levies and extraterrestrial surveillance of once sovereign states on the basis of fevered speculations for which there is no raw data:

SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years...

The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building...

In a statement on its website, the CRU said: “We do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenised) data.”

The CRU is the world’s leading centre for reconstructing past climate and temperatures. Climate change sceptics have long been keen to examine exactly how its data were compiled. That is now impossible*.

No raw data, huh? But why let that stand in your way?

Only Monday, a British parliamentary committee proposed that every citizen be required to carry a carbon card that must be presented, under penalty of law, when buying gasoline, taking an airplane or using electricity. The card contains your yearly carbon ration to be drawn down with every purchase, every trip, every swipe.

But don't worry. It'll all be very scientific. Your carbon allowance numbers will be kept in a big database. Maybe in East Anglia?

(*Or, as Jim Treacher puts it, the science is settled ...at the bottom of the dumpster.)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; globalwarming; hadleycru; marksteyn; steyn

1 posted on 11/30/2009 10:30:24 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Great post.


2 posted on 11/30/2009 10:31:44 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: neverdem

I love Steyn. Data-rape! LOL.


3 posted on 11/30/2009 10:32:48 AM PST by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (Who is John Thompson?)
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To: neverdem

Steyn nails it. This is nothing more ridiculous than those who believe in AGW, and nothing more sinister than those “experts” who promote the fraud.


4 posted on 11/30/2009 10:34:32 AM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: neverdem
...the science is settled ...at the bottom of the dumpster.
5 posted on 11/30/2009 10:37:36 AM PST by marron
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To: neverdem

If a picture is worth a thousand words, then sometimes a headline is worth a thousand words.

“The Dog Ate my Tree Rings.”

Vintage Steyn.


6 posted on 11/30/2009 10:38:42 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marron

bttt


7 posted on 11/30/2009 10:42:02 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.")
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To: neverdem

“Computer, could you tell me about the Corporate Wars?”

“And, um, I have some questions about the 16th Century...”


8 posted on 11/30/2009 11:01:49 AM PST by oblomov
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To: neverdem

I will proudly die in a war for independence before I let the likes of some policy wonk in the UK dictate what I do in my day to day. I’ll be damned if Obama or anyone in the Federal government tries to tax me for minutiae.

I repeat, I will proudly die in a war for independence before any of this taxation garbage comes to fruition!


9 posted on 11/30/2009 11:02:00 AM PST by rarestia (Confutatis maledictis, voca me cum benedictis)
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To: neverdem
Carbon card.

< speechless >

10 posted on 11/30/2009 11:05:57 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: neverdem
Raw

Data

Gone

As someone pointed out on another thread, this may or may not make the radar horizon in the MSM but these guys are done in serious science. There will probably be enough money in the scam to keep them afloat professionally, but this blot is permanent.

11 posted on 11/30/2009 11:09:45 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: neverdem

You know, it occurs to me that those trees could still be put to a very good use...


12 posted on 11/30/2009 11:11:32 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: neverdem

bump


13 posted on 11/30/2009 11:12:28 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: neverdem

“The Dog Ate My Tree Rings”: very funny and an instant classic.


14 posted on 11/30/2009 11:13:54 AM PST by RAR
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To: neverdem
a British parliamentary committee proposed that every citizen be required to carry a carbon card

I guess Brits view freedom with disdain, it's pitchfork and gallows time people.

15 posted on 11/30/2009 11:20:27 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: knews_hound; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; ...
Global Warming Fraud and the Future of Science

Climate change data dumped! Comment# 145 links a source from early October on the lost, original data.

Three Things You Absolutely Must Know About Climategate nice & quick summary of the CRU fraud

Enabling the next Fort Hood?:Congress's curbs on gun data hurt investigations (Bloomy & Tom Kean in WaPo OpEd)

Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

The GOP should use this global warming fraud to take on all of the politically correct BS of the left from gun control to feminism and all points in between, IMHO. Destroy all of the lefts' politically correct talking points and the heads full of mush that vote for RINOs and moderate rats won't have any reason to vote for them any more.

We'll never get the hard core left to agree with us. They are just too stupid or evil, but they are only about one fifth of the electorate. Destroy political correctness and we could have solid majorities as far as the eye can see.

16 posted on 11/30/2009 12:07:31 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem; Thunder90; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; Nervous Tick; 4horses+amule; WL-law; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

17 posted on 11/30/2009 12:22:18 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: neverdem

Actually, I would put that bumper sticker on my car ...”The dog ate my Tree Rings” ... I love it.


18 posted on 11/30/2009 12:45:58 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: neverdem

"Just trust us!"


19 posted on 11/30/2009 1:17:09 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: neverdem
Destroy political correctness and we could have solid majorities as far as the eye can see.

That would be great except for one thing. When Republicans have solid majorities for any length of time, they turn into big spending hacks that disdain actual freedom. A problem for later, I guess.

20 posted on 11/30/2009 1:28:03 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: neverdem

Steyn is the closest thing we have to a true heir to GK Chesterton.


21 posted on 11/30/2009 1:38:21 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: neverdem

thanks for the links.


22 posted on 11/30/2009 1:44:58 PM PST by cyn
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To: neverdem
I forsee a market for counterfeit carbon cards.
23 posted on 11/30/2009 1:51:46 PM PST by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: Travis McGee

And leftists DO “just trust” the elites.
It’s a religious level of faith.

I figured that out when, repeatedly, I “logic trapped” a lib in the utter failures of liberal policies.

“They know what they’re doing, I trust them.”


24 posted on 11/30/2009 1:53:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; El Gato; Squantos; wardaddy; Eaker; Jeff Head; Billthedrill; ...
"Just trust us!"

We're from the government, and we're here to help.

NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina

It's a less than 8 minute compilation of short videos. I've only seen parts of it before this. Check Annie Oakley with her Bible & gun.

25 posted on 11/30/2009 2:04:26 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Billthedrill

This scam has cost us billions. It’s waaaaay beyond mere white collar crime - this is the real deal. These guys belong in prison.


26 posted on 11/30/2009 2:13:18 PM PST by GOPJ (Anthropogenic global warming-the most costly and widespread scientific FRAUD in history-James Lewis)
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To: subterfuge
That would be great except for one thing. When Republicans have solid majorities for any length of time, they turn into big spending hacks that disdain actual freedom.

Those ranks were also filled with loads of RINOs, so they weren't that solid. We can thank the rats for one thing: they knocked off plenty of RINOs in 2006 & 2008.

On top of that, with tons of debt and a huge deficit, big spending hacks will be primaried now.

27 posted on 11/30/2009 2:15:33 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: GOPJ
This scam has cost us billions. It’s waaaaay beyond mere white collar crime...

That it is, and the primary evidence has just turned up destroyed. The MSM are giving it the "cleaning out the closet" spin. It's a lot more like Nixon's missing 18 minutes of tape.

28 posted on 11/30/2009 2:36:25 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: neverdem; Just mythoughts; Marie; winoneforthegipper; roses of sharon; Skooz; Pan_Yan; ...

I love the way he writes....


29 posted on 11/30/2009 2:44:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"I love the way he writes..."

~& thinks, and speaks.

One day the man's going to assume the Golden EIB microphone when Rush decides on a well earned retirement, enjoy his remaining life and golfs.

Thing about Steyn is, he laughs.
Laughs about Liberal-Socialists.
Laughs at Liberal-Socialists.
Laughs at Liberal-Socilaist boondoggles.
So Mark laughs often *&* a lot.

Mark Steyn taught me how to laugh, at whom and when.
If I learned one thing after his lesson it was Liberal-Socilaists hate being laughed at and/or otherwise mocked.
They despise it. LOL

So, my calling became clear. LOL!!'
Thanks, Mark. ;^)

30 posted on 11/30/2009 3:05:47 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: neverdem; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...
Image and video hosting by TinyPic

FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



31 posted on 11/30/2009 3:06:30 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Billthedrill
It's a lot more like Nixon's missing 18 minutes of tape.

You're right, Bill. It is.

The MSM should treat this the way they'd treat EXXON if EXXON was caught destroying information about an oil spill ... They would "get" that...

32 posted on 11/30/2009 3:16:38 PM PST by GOPJ (Anthropogenic global warming-the most costly and widespread scientific FRAUD in history-James Lewis)
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To: razorback-bert

As couterfeit cards become prblematic, they’ll just put your carbon info on a chip, implanted in your forehead or right hand....


33 posted on 11/30/2009 3:29:33 PM PST by genetic homophobe (They hate Sarah because she lovingly carries a failed abortion on her hip.)
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To: neverdem

You have GOT TO read Treacher: http://jimtreacher.com/archives/002138.html


34 posted on 11/30/2009 4:57:42 PM PST by GVnana ("Obama is incredibly naive and grossly egotistical." Sarkozy)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thank you BTTT


35 posted on 11/30/2009 6:16:43 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,1,26424705-948,00.html

10AM UPDATE: TONY Abbott has promised a fight on climate change after rolling Malcolm Turnbull to take over the Liberal leadership.

Mr Abbott, Mr Turnbull and Joe Hockey contested a three-way spill at a special partyroom meeting in Parliament this morning. Mr Abbott won by a single vote, 42-41.

He said he was humbled but exhilarated by the win.

“We are gearing up for the fight of our lives,” he said at his first press conference as leader, adding that he was not frightened to fight an election against Kevin Rudd on climate change.

WHOOPEEE!!!


36 posted on 11/30/2009 6:26:33 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; neverdem
Great post.

Yes it is. Thanks neverdem. HOORAY Mark Steyn...(data-rape ROFLMAO!)!

37 posted on 11/30/2009 6:53:42 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Landru

“If I learned one thing after his lesson it was Liberal-Socilaists hate being laughed at and/or otherwise mocked.
They despise it. LOL

So, my calling became clear. LOL!!’

I like to tweak em until the vein in their neck pops out ;-)


38 posted on 11/30/2009 7:15:03 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: neverdem; All

“We’ll never get the hard core left to agree with us. They are just too stupid or evil, but they are only about one fifth of the electorate. Destroy political correctness and we could have solid majorities as far as the eye can see. “

Hear that GOP??

Get off your bloody arse!!


39 posted on 11/30/2009 7:20:30 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Wowee!

Good Job...Fred!


40 posted on 11/30/2009 8:04:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; stephenjohnbanker; Landru; Travis McGee; potlatch; devolve; ...

I called our senator and congressman today to rant the long version against any iota of Copenhagen.

I insisted we first ground the boy-king's 747 and pimpmobile with the five-inch ballistic armor and run-flat tires.

And godsake enough with the Wednesday night parties.

Newt Gingrich and John McCain and Lindsey Graham go for this crap.

And you wonder why the Republican Party had electile dysfunction.


41 posted on 11/30/2009 8:15:43 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: neverdem
Only Monday, a British parliamentary committee proposed that every citizen be required to carry a carbon card that must be presented, under penalty of law, when buying gasoline, taking an airplane or using electricity. The card contains your yearly carbon ration to be drawn down with every purchase, every trip, every swipe.

You have got be freaking kidding me. What about every breath a person takes? Shouldn't we all be wired up too?

Astounding.

42 posted on 11/30/2009 8:20:26 PM PST by wolf24
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


43 posted on 11/30/2009 9:19:37 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: PhilDragoo
And you wonder why the Republican Party had electile dysfunction.

We need a medication for that problem....

44 posted on 11/30/2009 9:27:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: PhilDragoo
"I called our senator and congressman today to rant the long version against any iota of Copenhagen.
I insisted we first ground the boy-king's 747 and pimpmobile with the five-inch ballistic armor and run-flat tires.
And godsake enough with the Wednesday night parties."

BWWWHHAAAAAAAA!!!!

Phil?
I can honestly hear you, your voice telling the weasels that.
Funny stuff, my friend.
Thanks for the ping, and the call.. ;^)

Unfortunately, we both know damned well they didn't listen.

45 posted on 12/01/2009 3:45:14 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: neverdem
So, where did the dumped data originate? Did CRU have all of the data and only CRU? Aren't there other data bases at other centers in other places?

I do not get why the original data points cannot be reconstructed, even if they reside in various data bases in various countries and universities and meteorological centers around the world. Is there no chance of a forensic reconstruction?

As for the *carbon cards*, we have boycotted flying since 2006. We also mainly drive a low-mileage vehicle and perhaps only go on one trip of around a thousand miles per year or sometimes 18 months. We also heat primarily with wood, and while we do use propane, we use much less than we once did. We have mostly CFLs. Does this mean we can resell our *credits* just as the big boys do? Do my 40 acres of woodland and 20 acres of fallow crop land and 20 acres of meadow land count at all? If we were to get all our water from our 3 springs, would we be credited for not using our well pump? Do we get a break for being at *normal* or under *normal* weight, therefore using less carbon? If we utilize less medical services than *average*, do we get a credit for that? Does our venison count against our meat allotment, since killing the deer means they are no longer emitting carbon or eating up the carbon sink grasses? What about pan fish? Is the carbon debit for my container lettuce and tomatoes less than the carbon debit needed to ship them North in winter?

It is really confusing. I think they need some complicated algorithms to calculate all the variances.

46 posted on 12/01/2009 7:47:54 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
So, where did the dumped data originate? Did CRU have all of the data and only CRU? Aren't there other data bases at other centers in other places?

The Dog Ate Global Warming - Interpreting climate data can be hard enough. What if some key data have been fiddled?

I don't know. Try Patrick J. Michaels at Cato.

47 posted on 12/01/2009 10:32:22 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...
Hysterical queens like Gordon Brown are demanding we introduce global taxation, micro-regulation of every aspect of your life, massive multi-trillion dollar transfers from the productive sector to eco-rackets and transnational bureaucracies, bovine flatulence levies and extraterrestrial surveillance of once sovereign states on the basis of fevered speculations for which there is no raw data...
Thanks neverdem and Ernest!
48 posted on 12/01/2009 4:36:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Fred Nerks

WHOOPEEE!!


49 posted on 12/02/2009 9:24:18 AM PST by widdle_wabbit
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To: widdle_wabbit

UPDATE:

Yesterday

Leader of conservative coalition, Tony Abbot, announces:

EMMISSIONS TRADING SCHEME - DEAD IN SENATE!

P.S. Snippet on State Broadcasting Service (SBS) evening news: Hansen standing down, investigation pending, possible fraudulant data discovered - E-Mails - one shown on-screen, hockey-stick ‘trick’ reference.

LOVE IT!

JENNY WONG, OZ LABOR PARTY CLIMATE CZAR, LOSES COMPOSURE IN PARLIAMENT! hahaha!


50 posted on 12/02/2009 4:05:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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