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Records show FBI used ultra-right radio host for years (Hal Turner FBI Rat!!!)
Northjersey.com ^ | 11-30-09 | BY MIKE KELLY AND PETER J. SAMPSON

Posted on 11/30/2009 4:33:59 PM PST by Dementio

For more than five years, Hal Turner of North Bergen lived a double life.

The public knew him as an ultra-right-wing radio talk show host and Internet blogger with an audience of neo-Nazis and white supremacists attracted to his scorched-earth racism and bare-knuckles bashing of public figures. But to the FBI, and its expanding domestic counter-terror intelligence operations in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, Turner was "Valhalla" — his code name as an informant who spied on his own controversial followers.

Turner's clandestine past was confirmed this past summer when he was jailed on charges that he made threats on his blog against three federal judges in Chicago. In court after his arrest, federal prosecutors acknowledged Turner's FBI ties but downplayed his importance and even described him as "unproductive."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; halturner; news; talkradio

1 posted on 11/30/2009 4:33:59 PM PST by Dementio
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To: Dementio

From what I read, it seems clear that this man was coached to pretend to be a very conservative individual, with the purpose of arresting right-wing listeners.


2 posted on 11/30/2009 4:40:51 PM PST by Dementio
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To: Dementio

“with an audience of neo-Nazis and white supremacists attracted to his scorched-earth racism and bare-knuckles bashing of public figures.”


I believe those people belong at MoveOn.org and any remaining Left Wing radio stations.


3 posted on 11/30/2009 4:47:33 PM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: Dementio

“with an audience of neo-Nazis and white supremacists attracted to his scorched-earth racism and bare-knuckles bashing of public figures.”


I believe those people belong at MoveOn.org and any remaining Left Wing radio stations.


4 posted on 11/30/2009 4:48:01 PM PST by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: Dementio

Neo nazis? Them’s libtards, not conservatives.


5 posted on 11/30/2009 4:53:21 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Dementio
He was after skinheads ~ not Conservatives.

Skinheads are much more like Leftwingtards, particularly the mad bomber types, that Democrats love to do the warm and cuddlies with.

Still, whatever he was doing I knew a guy who appeared to have been doing a similar thing for the FBI regarding a credit company ~ he had to be brought in and given a regular government job in a different agency.

Then, one day the agency hired a bunch of guys he'd been infiltrating at the credit company. They made his life misrable.

We had a couple of other former FBI undercover types at Headquarters. For the most part they told the same story about how the FBI handles deep undercover people ~ and this guy's tale sounds like pretty much the same old same old.

Has the ring of truth!

7 posted on 11/30/2009 5:00:39 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: Dementio
From what I read, it seems clear that this man was coached to pretend to be a very conservative individual, with the purpose of arresting right-wing listeners.

It's just SOP, right wing, left wing, Muslim, doesn't matter to them. They want to make arrests, even if they have to incite the illegal acts themselves.

Remember it was the FBI's inside man who prepared the World Trade Center bombs for the first attack.

If anyone in a group is advocating killing cops or just making random attacks, it's probably the FBI mole.

BATFE will do that too. It's why they entrapped Randy Weaver, they wanted him to infilitrate "white power" groups in the area of his Ruby Ridge home.

8 posted on 11/30/2009 5:02:26 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Dementio

Wasn’t this guy friends with Hannity before he went national?


9 posted on 11/30/2009 5:04:27 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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To: El Gato
that's what I think the Oath Keepers is all about. It's just a way of getting names of military and police personnel that can't be "trusted" by the government to do the dirty work they may need.

Agent Provocateurs .... Even people on this site that make threats may just want the isp addresses of those in agreement in order to better observe those that might be a "threat" to the government.

10 posted on 11/30/2009 5:09:10 PM PST by erman
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To: Dementio
"As Turner took to his radio show and blog to say that those who opposed his extremist views deserve to die, he received thousands of dollars from the FBI to report on such groups as the Aryan Nations and the white supremacist National Alliance, and even a member of the Blue Eyed Devils skinhead punk band. Later, he was sent undercover to Brazil where he reported a plot to send non-military supplies to anti-American Iraqi resistance fighters."

OK..... then this dis-qualifies him as "an ultra-right-wing talk show host". "Right-Wing" means Federalism, Individual Liberty, Limited Government, Capitalism, Strong National Defense, Lower Taxes, Freedom, etc.

Playing to those that judge according to race and attacking the US Military is liberal territory.

11 posted on 11/30/2009 5:09:42 PM PST by GregoTX (When people find they can vote themselves money it will herald the end of the republic. Ben Franklin)
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To: Dementio

who?


12 posted on 11/30/2009 5:21:52 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: Dementio

And Alex Jones?


13 posted on 11/30/2009 5:31:01 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Dementio

Will he publish his diaries?


14 posted on 11/30/2009 5:31:50 PM PST by onedoug (SARAH!)
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To: Dementio

Sort of reminds me of the sixties, when we could always spot the FBI informer because he was the one loudly advocating the violent overthrow of the government. That, and their ‘undercover agents’ were the only people in the crowd wearing jeans with creases.


15 posted on 11/30/2009 5:32:53 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Dementio

I wonder about Alex Jones too.


16 posted on 11/30/2009 5:40:51 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: GregoTX

It is quicker just to say social conservative.


17 posted on 11/30/2009 5:58:11 PM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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To: onedoug

“Will he publish his diaries?”

LOL! Very few are going to get that one.


18 posted on 11/30/2009 6:06:44 PM PST by dljordan (Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: ArmstedFragg
Split personality ~ the Fibbies never wore white socks. The Postal Inspector infiltrating right next to them never wore colored socks.

Dead giveaways.

You just don't know how many undercover guys were taking advantage of the SDS girls.

20 posted on 11/30/2009 7:21:23 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: ArmstedFragg
Split personality ~ the Fibbies never wore white socks. The Postal Inspector infiltrating right next to them never wore colored socks.

Dead giveaways.

You just don't know how many undercover guys were taking advantage of the SDS girls.

21 posted on 11/30/2009 7:21:38 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: erman
"that's what I think the Oath Keepers is all about. It's just a way of getting names of military and police personnel that can't be "trusted" by the government to do the dirty work they may need."

Not so sure about that.
Well .. you are correct in thinking that a site like Oath Keepers could be set up as a trap but .. I'd like to think that most of us who are x-military, x-law-enforcement, have/had enough sense .. Not to sign up using our own pc's, email addresses or real names.

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22 posted on 11/30/2009 11:38:43 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: erman
NO .. You can't even trace my postings here .. back to me!
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23 posted on 11/30/2009 11:43:37 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: plinyelder
I wouldn't be to sure of that. As a test why don't you cuss out the administrator on this web site then try to log on here using the same computer under a different name or different laptop from the same connection.

you would be unpleasantly surprised to find out just how non anonymous we are. Even with ISP re-routers and site mirrors.

email a threat to someone and see how long it takes for the men with the yellow letters on their jackets to come knocking at your door.

24 posted on 12/01/2009 5:26:39 AM PST by erman
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Aha .. But what door would they be knocking on if .. you were using public access like .. UM, I don’t know .. maybe a library?

I can log on here and/or Oath Keepers in many locations, using many different access points, under many different nicks .. IF I were so inclined to do so. (just sayin)


25 posted on 12/01/2009 2:53:53 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: plinyelder
you are correct sir. I have never thought of that.

Cause there would be no video of someone using a library's computer or an internet cafe's public access computer for net browsing at the same time as a threat or a web site logged a registered user, especially at access points provided by the government like a library, hospital, neighborhood rec center, school, police station, barracks, USO center, airport facility...

I'm not even thinking about how if they matched up internet site access and then maybe cross referenced it with a cell phone ping that is in our pocket.... that way you can check when an access was made, who was pinging in the area.... get enough of those "random" access then the same name keeps popping up in the general area..... I don't know. I just think unless you actively go off the grid it's real hard to stay on the down low.

It's a spooky world and getting spookier.

Of course this is all theoretical and nothing can come of this, right? Cause we trust our government and the fine people working in it to look out for our safety and rights.

26 posted on 12/01/2009 8:40:40 PM PST by erman
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To: erman

The Only Other Solution!


27 posted on 12/01/2009 9:33:15 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: plinyelder

I was thinking aluminum foil deflector beanie.


28 posted on 12/01/2009 9:47:14 PM PST by erman
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To: Dementio
Hal Turner says he feels betrayed by the FBI after spying on white supremacists. He now is facing charges of making threats against judges.

lol...

29 posted on 12/01/2009 10:01:04 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Dementio
As Turner took to his radio show and blog to say that those who opposed his extremist views deserve to die, he received thousands of dollars from the FBI to report on such groups as the Blue Eyed Devils skinhead punk band.

Is this a joke?

In interviews, conducted before Turner was released on bail, he said the FBI coached him to make racist, anti-Semitic and other threatening statements and now he feels double-crossed by the bureau after his arrest.

They had to coach him? I could just see this FBI class on racism...This is Leno material....

30 posted on 12/01/2009 10:09:42 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: erman
Free Smiley Courtesy of www.millan.net

31 posted on 12/01/2009 10:40:20 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: Dementio

I posted Hal Turner stuff over a month ago, but THE MODS were quick to delete and remove my posts. No discussion could be had at all.

Great going censor freaks.


32 posted on 12/02/2009 6:16:26 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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