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After major same sex marriage research, liberal CA org says: "We do not see a path to victory."
SFGate: Politics Blog ^ | 11/30/9 | Joe Garofoli

Posted on 11/30/2009 9:48:25 PM PST by SmithL

The effort to get same sex marriage on the California ballot in 2010 took a hit Monday. Rick Jacbos, the leader of the 700,000-member Courage Campaign just told us that after spending more than $200,000 on "qualitative research" into the issue in California that "We do not see a path to victory."

So, the Courage Campaign sent a note to its supporters Monday calling for "for more research and time to change hearts and minds before returning to the ballot." Lambda Legal, a LGBT legal organization, said largely the same thing Monday.

Jacobs told us that the research -- led by Obama confidante Steve Hildebrand -- found that "The biggest hangup people have is that right wing has done a very good job of telling people that somehow children will be affected" should same sex marriage become legal. It worked in both Maine and California, even though top public officials in both places said it would not.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 11/30/2009 9:48:27 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Excellent!


2 posted on 11/30/2009 9:54:26 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (New Wizard of Oz: Pelosi as the Wicked Witch of the West & Michelle as the Wicked Witch of the East.)
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To: SmithL

Watch the homosexuals do the two step. With Defense of Marriage they went with the states’ rights argument. Now they can dump that and go for civil rights legislation, whatever it takes to push a radical, homosexual agenda onto a vast majority of people who don’t want it.


3 posted on 11/30/2009 9:55:43 PM PST by pallis
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To: SmithL
"The biggest hangup people have is that right wing has done a very good job of telling people that somehow children will be affected" should same sex marriage become legal. It worked in both Maine and California, even though top public officials in both places said it would not.

Imagine that. Voters disbelieve "top public officials." Amazing.
4 posted on 11/30/2009 9:56:59 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: SmithL

Sodomites go back into the closet for a circle-jerk BUMP!


5 posted on 11/30/2009 9:58:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SmithL

Their downfall started with the “Folsom Street Fair” video. Watch SF try to shove the genie back into the bottle and rein in public homo sex acts.

My 2 cents.


6 posted on 11/30/2009 10:00:31 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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Good summary here:
If you have ever expressed your disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle you have likely had someone respond: “How does what a person does in the privacy of his home hurt you”? Answer: When what is done in the privacy of one’s home is sanctioned by the government it creates a legitimization for that action or lifestyle that inevitably invades the homes of others through the media – newspapers, TV, movies, the internet – through the schools – requiring students, regardless of religious or moral beliefs, to take classes with the purpose of indoctrinating them with the State’s values – through the law – criminalizing thoughts, words, or actions (Hate Crime Laws) the State deems offensive or intolerant. The truth of this statement is evident to all but the willfully blind.
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7 posted on 11/30/2009 10:05:08 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: SmithL

Too many dissidents not listening to “top officials.” They’re worrying their gay heads off about that.


8 posted on 11/30/2009 10:20:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: reagandemocrat

They can’t have their cake and eat it too. They can’t publicly play the clown then win the assent of those who do not wish to join a circus.


9 posted on 11/30/2009 10:21:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: SmithL

Probably because God didn’t make humans reproduce homosexually. Going against God is a tall order. No shame in losing that one.


10 posted on 11/30/2009 10:24:08 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: SmithL

How about threatening to burn a church down? Or threatening to stage a mass gay kiss-in in front a church?

Those worked so well in the past (sarc/)


11 posted on 11/30/2009 10:24:17 PM PST by max americana (i)
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To: max americana

“Or threatening to stage a mass gay kiss-in in front a church?”

They didn’t just threaten to do that, they did it at a church I know. They did a lot more, too. Like invasions, repeated vandalism, death threats, and firebombs! All documented.


12 posted on 11/30/2009 10:39:53 PM PST by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Marie2

I had one mass 3 weeks ago here in Hollywood at my parish where the parishioner was a guest “speaker’ at mass telling the story about his gay son during the Gospel..

Fine I thought, tell the story but dont lecture me.

She not only told the story but painted other people who didnt agree with that lifestyle as ‘un-Christian’ and painted Texans as bigots.

I just walked out and greeted a fellow smoker outside. I asked him about it and he said “yeah, she tells that homo story every year and the rest of the idiots inside will clap, just you watch”. They did afterwards.

My weekly donation I gave to the bum outside who thanked me incesantly because he claimed he hasnt eaten for 4 days.


13 posted on 11/30/2009 10:57:46 PM PST by max americana (i)
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To: scripter

Pinging all FR resident “Moderates” and “libertarians” to post #7...

LOL


14 posted on 11/30/2009 11:44:36 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Marie2
All documented.

Were they YouTubed?

Churchgoers at targeted churches should get in the habit of taking pocket-sized video cameras so they can record and publicize any disgraceful actions. Such footage can't shame the shameless, but it might open a few eyes.

15 posted on 11/30/2009 11:58:00 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://twitter.com/kevinjjones)
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To: reagandemocrat
Their downfall started with the “Folsom Street Fair” video. Watch SF try to shove the genie back into the bottle and rein in public homo sex acts. My 2 cents.

The other part of their downfall in California was SF's may Gavin Newsome saying, "This door's wide open now. "It's going to happen, whether you like it or not."

16 posted on 12/01/2009 12:13:46 AM PST by Tamar1973 (http://koreanforniancooking.blogspot.com/)
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To: SmithL
It worked in both Maine and California, even though top public officials in both places said it would not.

Which means either that "top public officials" don't have kids and don't have a clue, or else they have kids but just don't give a flying flip.

New possibility here (hear me out):

Liberal groups incl. gov't. bureaucracies founded on liberal shibboleths (such as those instituted by Lyndon Bastard Johnson) make local pols dance for the money. They offer fungible, "this-can-all-go-away" marginal dollars for purposes the donors want funded, conditionally on the pols' performing as instructed (i.e. the pols are bribed, but we don't use that word because they're all fine fellows and their intentions are all the best).

So when the NGO's asked the pols before, about these SSM issues, the pols told them what they wanted to hear. It'll all be swell, do your thing, rock the house, party 'til you puke ...... did you bring the check?

The pols told them what they wanted to hear, and then they ...... absquatulated.

They can't even stay bought any more. Isn't that sad?

17 posted on 12/01/2009 2:21:22 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: SmithL

“So, the Courage Campaign sent a note to its supporters Monday calling for “for more research and time to change hearts and minds before returning to the ballot.””

Translated: “We’ll have to let the judges do our dirty work.”


18 posted on 12/01/2009 3:49:55 AM PST by BobL (Real Men don't use Tag Lines)
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To: SmithL

“”The biggest hangup people have is that right wing has done a very good job of telling people that somehow children will be affected” should same sex marriage become legal.”

It’s not “somehow children will be affected”, it’s “children will be affected”, as is now the case in Mass, where they use the gay marriage law to justify no opt-out for parents when it’s time for “Heather has Two Mommies”. It is fear based on facts and the gays made it VERY EASY for us.


19 posted on 12/01/2009 4:08:16 AM PST by BobL (Real Men don't use Tag Lines)
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To: reagandemocrat

what’s folsom street?


20 posted on 12/01/2009 4:40:15 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca NOW!!!<img src="http://shiitehappens.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/bomb_mecca450.jpg" />)
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To: Cronos

Zombietime produced an unbiased documentary on the 2007 Folsom Street Fair, and posted on her website—WARNING-VERY GRAPHIC:

http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php

Very disturbing. And yet, as someone mentioned above, Gavin Newsom told us this was coming ‘whether we like or not’.

Think maybe this is why he dropped out of the race for governor.


21 posted on 12/01/2009 7:21:14 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: lentulusgracchus

“absquatulated”!

As in, ‘abscond’—”The gold prospector absquatulated with our nuggets”.

Well done, FRiend.


22 posted on 12/01/2009 7:31:28 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: reagandemocrat
Their downfall started with the “Folsom Street Fair” video. Watch SF try to shove the genie back into the bottle and rein in public homo sex acts.
Bingo: Check out this thread: Possible A's sites a case of fantasy baseball? { & SF cracks down on Folsom St. Fair}
23 posted on 12/01/2009 7:37:27 AM PST by SmithL (SARCHASM: The gulf between the maker of sarcastic wit and the person who just doesn't get it.)
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To: SmithL
Even with 31 states rejecting their agenda, the Wash DC city council is poised to pass same sex marriage in our nations capital. Sodom and Gormorah was not destroyed because of all the homosexuals but because government endorsed it!!

Why don't the homosexuals just live together like half of the nations heterosexual couples?

24 posted on 12/01/2009 8:29:57 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: Dumb_Ox

“Were they u-tubed?”

Not to my knowledge, but there were police present at most of the incidents and there were local news stories on several, some including video.

The incidents I listed took place from the 1980s to present.


25 posted on 12/01/2009 9:05:55 AM PST by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: SmithL
Thanks for the tip... here I did this

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/30/BA701ARFS6.DTL


26 posted on 12/01/2009 9:42:36 AM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war (...Actually I'm hearing MORE....) ** DEAFENING **)
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To: reagandemocrat

I can’t claim any credit — I believe the word is original with Mark Twain, as in “The horses have done absquatulated!”


27 posted on 12/01/2009 9:52:17 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: scripter

they’ll be out in our churches, groups, neighborhoods neighbors etc etc .
They’re try and find a group where they can get to know them and make them feel like friends.
Then after some time they find a person who they feel is the softer one and they’ll befriend them more than other others , they’ll tell them that they’re homosexuals but they just want to be left alone.
They will get that person to feel sorry for them.
They’ll say how they just feel the love but they always live infear of not being accepted etc.
They’ll play the victim card really

That is what they do and sadly about a year ago I remember a lady on here saying she had no problem with homosexuals because she go to know one at her church and he was nice and he told her how he wanted to be left alone and live in peace.

All one has to do is look at how they act when they’re within their own groups and on their parades.

If this was about marriage the homosexuals would have left these states which ban them and they would have moved to MA.
It no because they want to join the military it’s because the military is a group which goes against them and their lifestyle.

End all
it is an agenda to push their way on to and onto America


28 posted on 12/01/2009 1:08:20 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: BobL

I sleep in the same bed as my wife and in the weekend mornings my 3 children aged 12, 8 and 6 always come in, in the morning/.

These homosexuals are trying to tell me that a little boy or girl who see two men in bed with each other is not going to affect her.

course it is.
She’ll look at all the other kids and see them with mummies and daddies and think why on earth does she have two men, why does she have ot be different from everyone else.

The two men will say , hey honey no problem we just love each other.

Well many of us love different things from our pets, to family but none of us feel the need to sleep and have sex with then.

Maybe I should have changed the little girl with two men to being a boy with two men seeing as homosexual men like to get boys


29 posted on 12/01/2009 1:15:43 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: ElPatriota

correct

where is the media to take a ca,era to SF and let the public see the public homosexual sex and let the pubic see these perverts dancing and play acting with each others.

Now that would destroy any agenda they have but of course for some reason,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, the media do not do this even the likes of Hannity and Huckabee who have shows and can take their cameras


30 posted on 12/01/2009 1:18:33 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: SmithL

It is all about access to other peoples’ children, special rights and privileges, and full benefits for deviants or any others, claiming to perform homosexual acts. Keep in mind, all one has to do is make the claim and presto, you have the special rights and privileges.


31 posted on 12/01/2009 2:39:23 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Cronos

Goggle “Folsom Street Fair”.

If you really want to know!


32 posted on 12/01/2009 5:30:34 PM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: scripter

Excellent post, scripter, as usual!!


33 posted on 12/01/2009 8:48:01 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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