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Administration Outlines Afghan War Endgame [Stunning Development!]
APReport ^ | December 01, 2009

Posted on 12/01/2009 10:40:28 AM PST by Steelfish

Administration Outlines Afghan War Endgame Official: U.S. troops will start leaving region 'well before' end of first term

NBC News and news services

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama plans to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan over six months, an accelerated timetable — with an endgame built in — that would have the first Marines there as early as Christmas, a senior administration official told The Associated Press.

U.S. troops are expected to start leaving the region 'well before' the end of Obama's first term, the AP reported Tuesday. A senior government official told NBC contributor Col. Jack Jacobs that the president believes that a transition from American-led combat to Afghan leadership of the effort will begin in July 2011.

With the full complement of new troops expected to be in Afghanistan by next summer, the heightened pace of Obama's military deployment in the 8-year-old war appears to mimic the 2007 troop surge in Iraq, a 20,000-strong force addition under former President George W. Bush. Similar in strategy to that mission, Obama's Afghan surge aims to reverse gains by Taliban insurgents and to secure population centers in the volatile south and east parts of the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bho44; bhodod; endgame; oef; oefsurge; stuned
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1 posted on 12/01/2009 10:40:29 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

I see Quagmire in the future..... and not the one from Family Guy....


2 posted on 12/01/2009 10:41:43 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: Steelfish; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


3 posted on 12/01/2009 10:43:37 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: b4its2late

We’re going to have a huge number of troops there, whose supply lines run through Pakistan. I see future problems with this.


4 posted on 12/01/2009 10:43:55 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Steelfish

“U.S. troops are expected to start leaving the region ‘well before’ the end of Obama’s first term, the AP reported Tuesday.”

Looks like the MSM is conceding that it’s all about politics and the ‘bama not wanting to be a one termer. Very revealing.


5 posted on 12/01/2009 10:45:17 AM PST by Spok
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To: Steelfish
I get the feeling that every decision Obama makes is based on whether it will help him get relected or not. Maybe that is normal for a 1st term president but either way, I don't feel comfortable with anything he's doing just for that reason.
6 posted on 12/01/2009 10:45:45 AM PST by happilymarriedmom
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To: Steelfish
U.S. troops are expected to start leaving the region ‘well before’ the end of Obama’s first term

sounds like

President Clinton said U.S. troops would be out of Yugoslavia by Christmas 1999

7 posted on 12/01/2009 10:45:50 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Good point.


8 posted on 12/01/2009 10:45:58 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: b4its2late

Giggity!


9 posted on 12/01/2009 10:46:19 AM PST by SeanOGuano
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To: Steelfish
A senior government official told NBC contributor Col. Jack Jacobs that the president believes that a transition from American-led combat to Afghan leadership of the effort will begin in July 2011.

Obama's about to find out that the fortunes of war do not neatly comply with political timelines.

10 posted on 12/01/2009 10:49:45 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; F15Eagle; GOPJ; Munz; Quix; SandRat; SJackson; SolidWood

ping


11 posted on 12/01/2009 10:50:36 AM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: b4its2late

Its a stunned development....
O sends in THIRTY THOUSAND troops into harms way under a catch and release program...Fat lips? you get court martialed. And you cant point guns at suspects...

There is no real support in the big white house as he doesnt want to see his brothers in the nation harmed. Pakistan? The ISI are a wing of al quada and there is a huge problem... yet he pumps a shitload of cash in there to fight ourselves.

It is an upside down world but what do you expect from the great destroyer of America, a marxist muslim president?


12 posted on 12/01/2009 10:50:36 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Spok

By 2011, 0bama will start to triangulate.


13 posted on 12/01/2009 10:51:49 AM PST by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Steelfish

Great. Tell your enemy when you’re leaving, so he can just lie low and wait it out.

Now THAT’s some military strategy for you!

/sarc


14 posted on 12/01/2009 10:56:16 AM PST by Deo volente (Sarah Palin was right. There ARE death panels in the bill.)
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To: b4its2late; 1000 silverlings; xzins
And here we thought he was Carter when he was actually LBJ in drag all along.

God help us.

15 posted on 12/01/2009 10:57:05 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Steelfish

There goes Afghanistan


16 posted on 12/01/2009 10:57:26 AM PST by G8 Diplomat
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To: Steelfish

This is a political decision based almost entirely on political calculations. There is very little military calculation in it at all.


17 posted on 12/01/2009 10:57:54 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Steelfish

Obama has given me ulcers.

I’m sick of the SOB.


18 posted on 12/01/2009 10:58:07 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
LBJ in drag all along.

lol

19 posted on 12/01/2009 11:00:03 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: himno hero

“catch and release program...Fat lips?” Never UnderEstimate the tactics motives of this man and MSM. EVERYTHING IS A DICTRACTION AND DIVERSION. Including the leaks.


20 posted on 12/01/2009 11:01:29 AM PST by anglian
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To: Steelfish

These people will take a principled stand when they know they are not alone. “They are as scared of us leaving as we are,” said an American officer. Afghan officials fear talk of exit strategy
19 hours ago

KABUL -Afghan officials hope President Barack Obama’s address on Afghanistan won’t be weighted too heavily on an exit strategy even though that’s the message many Americans and Democrats in Congress...
Afghan officials worry that political pressure in the United States might encourage Obama to pull out before the Taliban have been seriously weakened.
Much of the relative success of the Iraq surge was that it changed perceptions — convincing both insurgents and government leaders alike that the U.S. would stay as long as it took to achieve its goals. That emboldened many Iraqi Sunnis to break with al-Qaida — a move that was a turning point in the war.
http://news.aol.com/article/afghan-officials-fear-talk-of-exit/791156


21 posted on 12/01/2009 11:04:13 AM PST by anglian
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To: anglian

Its ALL about the destruction of the US of A


22 posted on 12/01/2009 11:06:11 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Steelfish
He wants to repeat this scene in Kabul:


23 posted on 12/01/2009 11:15:13 AM PST by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Spok

Man where else can one play and fly for free with protective media coverage and it’s always the fault of somebody else. A Kenyan playing on our trillions thanks to China.


24 posted on 12/01/2009 11:15:29 AM PST by mcshot (Our White Hut is not made up of the best and brightest, but they are practiced criminals.)
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To: PapaBear3625

...not to mention problems with the Pentagon being forced to hire UNION contractors, workers, etc.....

Dumber....and even dumber....


25 posted on 12/01/2009 11:15:56 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: b4its2late

politics before real-world facts and American interests. as usual for dems.


26 posted on 12/01/2009 11:19:28 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: savedbygrace; All

This is a political decision based almost entirely on
political calculations. There is very little military
calculation in it at all.


"All warfare is based
upon deception"
- Sun Tzu

The only deception here is Obama to the American people.

27 posted on 12/01/2009 11:19:33 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Steelfish
Administration Outlines Afghan War Surrender Endgame

Fixed...

28 posted on 12/01/2009 11:21:19 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Steelfish
If this is Obama's plan, we should pull out now.

He is not committed to winning the mission...so no further US lives should be lost.

29 posted on 12/01/2009 11:25:45 AM PST by Mariner
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To: Steelfish

NYT Headline: More Troops To Afghanistan — Bush’s Fault


30 posted on 12/01/2009 11:26:49 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: Steelfish

So if the Presidential election were in 2014 instead of 2012, we’d stay in Afghanistan until 2013, and Obamacare wouldn’t take effect until 2015. The Dems are a bunch of self-interested POS’s.


31 posted on 12/01/2009 11:31:48 AM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: Steelfish

Stunning? Not in the least. Breaking? Been out there for a couple days. Is there anything new buried on page 2?


32 posted on 12/01/2009 11:32:41 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: Steelfish

Head fake, then cut and run. What a grand war plan.


33 posted on 12/01/2009 11:35:04 AM PST by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: Steelfish
I'm going to wait to see what his majesty says this evening before I jump to any conclusions, but there's sure a lot of 'compromise' and 'exit strategy' smoke coming from Obama's campfire; one that should be signaling a commitment to victory.

...metaphorically speaking.

34 posted on 12/01/2009 11:35:43 AM PST by americanophile ("For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.")
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To: Steelfish

So in other words OUR TROOPS are to be USED as political PAWNS for the ZEROs 2012 Campaign for Prez.

THIS IS FRIKKING OUTRAGOUS.

The ()**^%*%)( is going to start his campaign in July 2011, and use the troops to try to bring his base back.
These DUMS are downright EVIL.


35 posted on 12/01/2009 11:37:37 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Mariner
If this is Obama's plan, we should pull out now.

I agree 100%. In the back of my mind, there is a nagging suspicion that this may be a ploy to obtain Taliban concessions in a secret negotiation. I know, I am so distrustful of this administration (CIC and SOS).

36 posted on 12/01/2009 11:39:39 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: don-o

“U.S. troops will start leaving region ‘well before’ end of first term”!!!!!!!!!


37 posted on 12/01/2009 11:41:31 AM PST by Steelfish
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To: Perdogg

>>>By 2011, 0bama will start to triangulate.
And by 2011, the lingering effects of the past administration’s failed policies will REALLY start to show themselves..../SARC


38 posted on 12/01/2009 11:49:56 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: LibWhacker

CUT AND WALK, like CUT AND RUN but noone can sense your panic and defeat.


39 posted on 12/01/2009 11:53:38 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: SumProVita

Telegraph to Al Qaeda: behave for one year and the country is yours.

When did war strategy become something that needs to be broadcast to the world?


40 posted on 12/01/2009 11:54:18 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: SeanOGuano

LOL!Thanx-I needed that

SZQ


41 posted on 12/01/2009 12:09:33 PM PST by homegroan (Proud to be a Palinite!)
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To: himno hero

“O sends in THIRTY THOUSAND troops into harms way under a catch and release program...Fat lips? you get court martialed. And you cant point guns at suspects...”

Don’t forget the crown jewel of the current rules of engagement: no civilian casualties allowed or tolerated!

Very practical thinking in a conflict where NONE of the enemy wear a uniform.

He isn’t ‘0’ for nothing!


42 posted on 12/01/2009 12:10:37 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out!)
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To: Steelfish

Oh, wonderful. The Magnificent One is telling the Taliban how long they have to hold out.


43 posted on 12/01/2009 12:14:32 PM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: Steelfish

Best president since FDR....../s
Ask Carville, Carter, Beckel......


44 posted on 12/01/2009 12:19:36 PM PST by cranked
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To: Steelfish

July 2011, no matter what is going on there. Now what coincides with around July 2011. I see he’s still he’s in campaign mode. MO has no intention of leaving the WH in 3 years. She be likin’ her new digs and the perks that go along with it. She wants that last 4 year so she can travel, do things they can’t do now. Lame ducks don’t care about polls.


45 posted on 12/01/2009 12:33:26 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: b4its2late

(giggity)


46 posted on 12/01/2009 12:39:27 PM PST by clintonh8r (Oath Keeper and Manhattan Declaration signer)
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To: b4its2late

The Taliban can just wait until 2012, and then Afghanistan is theirs if ZerObama is still there.


47 posted on 12/01/2009 12:40:24 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Steelfish
... Obama's first term...

Should we start referring to Michelle as his first wife?

48 posted on 12/01/2009 12:44:45 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: expatpat

Yep.


49 posted on 12/01/2009 12:50:01 PM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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To: Steelfish

All The terrorists have to do is hold out in caves for three years then it is open season in Afghanistan again.

Well played Obama .. who made this tactical decision up Bonzo or Captain Kangaroo?


50 posted on 12/01/2009 1:48:26 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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