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Few Marines in Afghanistan wake for Obama's speech
McClatchy Newspapers ^ | Jay Price

Posted on 12/01/2009 9:08:08 PM PST by Dubya

CAMP LEATHERNECK, Afghanistan — Only a handful of the thousands of troops in the U.S. Marines' main base here thought it worth the effort to get out of bed for President Barack Obama's speech on Afghanistan, which began at 5:30 a.m. local time.

In the workout gym — one of the few public places with TVs — only two Navy Seabee engineers were watching when the speech began, and they were sharply divided on the wisdom of the president's plan.

"I didn't really hear a good reason," said E3 Steven Lewis, 23, of Boise, Idaho. "I think it's all gone on too long. 9/11 happened a long time ago."

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cutandrun; notinterestedinawin; obama; substituteforvictory; theywereexpendable; tipofthespear; usmc
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Get our troops out, give the Arabs 30 days to get out if they want out then blow the dump and anyone who stays off of the map. Pres. Harry Truman showed us how to win a war,
1 posted on 12/01/2009 9:08:09 PM PST by Dubya
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To: Dubya

Here’s what Obama thought of Bush’s troop increase:

How quickly America forgets...

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/12/what-obama-thought-of-bushs-troop.html


2 posted on 12/01/2009 9:16:51 PM PST by Talkradio03 (Talkradio03)
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To: Dubya
 

"Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists."
~~George W. Bush

3 posted on 12/01/2009 9:17:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Dubya
Few Marines in Afghanistan wake for Obama's speech

What a coincidence!! Few Americans at home could STAY awake for it, either!!

4 posted on 12/01/2009 9:25:57 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Dubya

The Biggest Loser was on twice tonight. At 8pm from West Point and then at 9pm from California.


5 posted on 12/01/2009 9:29:47 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Keep your dog. Get rid of a Liberal.)
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To: Dubya
Amen! Here's what I wrote in another thread:

The only way I support a troop increase is if we go in there, whoop the $h!t out of them and then pull out with our middle fingers waiving goodbye. My buddies and I are tired of fighting a politically correct war and we, especially those of us who have been deployed four of the last six years (I personally have only deployed once which is rare in the Army nowadays) are very tired of not being allowed to win decisively after this many years. Thank God the American people are tired of it too. We must not have learned from Vietnam; hopefully, this time we’ve learned so that in the future we get in, whoop @$$, and then get out.

6 posted on 12/01/2009 9:34:29 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (My oath is to the Constitution, not to the state or the President. http://oathkeepers.org/oath/)
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To: Dubya
If I were still an active-duty Marine, especially in a combat zone, the only time I'd wake early is to view his wake.
7 posted on 12/01/2009 9:37:50 PM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: Dubya


Few Marines in Afghanistan wake for Obama’s speech

Marines need their sleep.
(like all our military)

Because, “great work gets done, DESPITE MANAGEMENT”.
And that requires a good night sleep.


8 posted on 12/01/2009 9:41:50 PM PST by VOA (I)
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To: Dubya

Our troops despise the Puke as much as we do. Pelosi is a close second in the Puke category.


9 posted on 12/01/2009 9:42:49 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead (clean the sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: Dubya
THE FEW THE PROUD THE MARINES
10 posted on 12/01/2009 9:46:07 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya

My son is a Marine who will likely be part of this surge. I asked him how he felt about going. He said, “There are Marines there-that’s reason enough for me.”


11 posted on 12/01/2009 9:46:15 PM PST by Spok
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To: Dubya; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


12 posted on 12/01/2009 9:46:44 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: DocH
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13 posted on 12/01/2009 9:48:20 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: DustyMoment

LOL


14 posted on 12/01/2009 9:48:57 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Talkradio03

Thanks


15 posted on 12/01/2009 9:49:44 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Engineer_Soldier
Good luck to you.

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16 posted on 12/01/2009 9:51:16 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Spok
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To your son.

17 posted on 12/01/2009 9:53:21 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: VOA

Yes they do I agree.


18 posted on 12/01/2009 9:55:19 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yes most of them do.


19 posted on 12/01/2009 9:56:10 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya

Pres. Harry Truman showed us how to win World War II, but then he showed us how not to win in Korea.


20 posted on 12/01/2009 9:56:56 PM PST by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: Dubya

Nativity scene in the us capitol
The Supreme Court has ruled that there cannot be a nativity scene in the U.S. Capitol this Christmas season.

This isn’t for any religious reason. They simply have not been able to find Three Wise Men in Washington, D.C.

A search for a virgin continues.

There will be no problem, however, finding enough Donkeys to fill the stable.


21 posted on 12/01/2009 9:58:30 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: flowerplough

Ike showed us how to get out of Korea. Harry Truman is the only Pres. in my life time to lead America to win a war.


22 posted on 12/01/2009 10:00:48 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya
KOREAN WAR

23 posted on 12/01/2009 10:04:39 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya
FAREWELL

FAREWELL IWO JIMA

24 posted on 12/01/2009 10:07:03 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya
Get our troops out,

FK NO! Get politics out of WAR and let our troops do what they do!

25 posted on 12/01/2009 10:11:36 PM PST by MaxMax (Obamao can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: Dubya

LOL? I find nothing funny here.!


26 posted on 12/01/2009 10:14:12 PM PST by MaxMax (Obamao can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: Dubya

Just as long as we’re out by 2012 so there’s no quagmire there which might impact Obama’s odds at re-election. What’s more important?.. America (Defeating the terrorists), or The Democrat Party (winning an election)? And the Democrat’s answer is.. (drum roll please)... ELECTION!


27 posted on 12/01/2009 10:15:30 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: Dubya

Why should they wake to support someone who betrays them when they do their duty, and will hand them over to foreign prosecutors for what? giving a TERRORIST a fat lip?? Then has the nerve to go to west point to deliver a speech about how he’s only sending in 75% of the needed troops?


28 posted on 12/01/2009 10:58:04 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

I didn’t know it was BO who has been doing that.


29 posted on 12/01/2009 11:05:12 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya

BO gave his approval for the soldeirs who captured the TERORIST and ‘roughed him up a bit’ to be tried i n the hague last I heard or read-


30 posted on 12/01/2009 11:20:58 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Dubya

Our folks in the war zone need their sleep a helluvalot more than they need to be even further depressed by the idiot-in-chief.

Our military men and women already KNOW what’s going on. They also know this baby from Chicago doesn’t have a friggin’ clue!


31 posted on 12/02/2009 12:20:24 AM PST by Just Lori (What we have is a TOXIC government, and that aint no ASSET!!!!)
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To: CottShop

I read that, too, right here on FR. I’m still hoping it was just tabloid trash.


32 posted on 12/02/2009 12:22:44 AM PST by Just Lori (What we have is a TOXIC government, and that aint no ASSET!!!!)
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To: Just Lori; CottShop

I’m pretty sure that the 2 seperate stories came out at the same time but are unrelated.


33 posted on 12/02/2009 12:33:32 AM PST by 4woodenboats (B0-"There'll be no shooting of out of uniform enemies" RR-"The Bombing Will Begin In 5 Minutes")
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To: Dubya
What I noticed about Obama's this evening was his usual appearance of standing before America without any sense of humility of power. He never looked out at America's Military audience with a look of pride or admiration much less that needed humility. His gaze 'upon them', just that.

Obama stood,coolly absorbing his audience; seeming to imagine their power and pride in accomplishment, was his and his alone. Whatever few warm words had been edited into his speech; they were stone cold on delivery.

And so it is; and will be, a demeanor assumed by our narcissistic and puffed-up President; who appears only cognizant of himself while emoting his arrogance of self-importance. Even when standing before one of America's greatest treasures - our incredible Military.

No doubt; they were a great photo-op. Albeit, another 'inappropriateness' missed by the One.

George Bush, on his worst day; could not carry off what Obama manages so deftly. We can be grateful for that (and for much more per GW, for certain.)

34 posted on 12/02/2009 1:39:09 AM PST by cricket
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To: CottShop
As CIC; that would be the case. Like KSM debaucle; even the best of Media; does not go there attaching his name. At least not much; or often.

(A similar MO operant with use of that 'Virginia couple' as gate crashers. Think 'Virginia' couple; is used first in story and more often than their names as another bow to PC and additional buffer to Obama. A preferred mention, so as to reduce 'alarm'; despite the legs this story has been given. By now, we should be well beyond the innocuous- if not prestigious - given to the 'Virginia couple' per this story.

No question that Obama needs to be credited with every disaster and insult that his hand not only allows - but gives 'blessing'to.

We know GW was always given credit; whether he deserved it - or not. The media created a world-wide mantra on his behalf. (It was Bush's fault, of course.)

35 posted on 12/02/2009 1:55:29 AM PST by cricket
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To: Dubya
"I think it's all gone on too long. 9/11 happened a long time ago." said E3 Steven Lewis, 23, of Boise, Idaho.

McClatchy report by Jonathan Landay, the reporter who broke the story of how our rules of engagement in Afghanistan endanger the troops.

McClatchy report by Jonathan Landay: Report: "Rules of engagement led to soldiers' deaths." A detailed follow up:

“The lack of timely air support - was a consequence of the manpower and equipment shortages bequeathed by the Bush administration’s failure to secure Afghanistan against a resurgence of the Taliban, al-Qaida and allied groups before turning to invade Iraq.”

“The denial of heavy artillery fire to those trapped in Ganjgal also has roots in the Bush administration’s decision to divert resources to Iraq and the resulting stress on the U.S. military.”

McClatchy investigation: Birthers are just plain nutsDoes McClatchy get its talking points from DNC operatives?

36 posted on 12/02/2009 3:07:42 AM PST by anglian
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"I don't think that even the best blogsites are a substitute for the mainstream media is that bloggers cannot do all of the things that mainstream media companies can do, at least for now. In June, for example, we completed an investigation of the Bush administration's detainee program. It took the lead reporter, Tom Lasseter, other reporters and Travis Heying, a photographer for the Wichita Eagle, to 11 countries on three continents over the course of eight months. It's hard for bloggers, no matter how good they are, to do that kind of work." - John Walcott, Washington bureau chief for McClatchy Newspapers Oct. 7, 2008
37 posted on 12/02/2009 3:11:22 AM PST by anglian
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To: DustyMoment; All

FOX news is showing close ups of some of the Marines who fell asleep during the speech...so many were nodding off. Understandable, but I wonder if they can get any kind of reprimand for it?


38 posted on 12/02/2009 3:39:26 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Join Me In BOYCOTTING all ObamaTV!! (Change the channel or do so and then turn tv off!!))
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To: Dubya; DocH; Spok; 444Flyer

39 posted on 12/02/2009 5:36:25 AM PST by Semper Mark (The word, VICTORY, is not in the liberal lexicon.)
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To: Markos33

Is that one of those new multi-ladders, “The Little Man-Child”?


40 posted on 12/02/2009 8:00:11 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: Dubya

Ooh-rah.


41 posted on 12/02/2009 8:01:22 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: Dubya

Harry Truman showed us how to win a war?

What?

You must mean WWII. Truman inherited the plan that was already in the works before he became President. He had little to do with those plans prior to Roosevelt’s death.

Are you talking about Korea? Korea was a failure and Truman was partly to blame. Korea remains divided to this day. Truman fired a famous general, if you recall because that famous general actually wanted to chase the Chinese back to China and take care of the North Korean government once and for all. Truman sought permission from the UN. Korea was the first war we fought with one hand tied behind our backs, Korea led the US down the path of limited warfare which led to the mess the US government made out of Vietnam.

Korea was Truman’s, and he blinked.


42 posted on 12/02/2009 8:13:25 AM PST by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: Markos33

Where in the world did you find that? That is great!


43 posted on 12/02/2009 8:21:10 AM PST by 444Flyer (You're either with us and our falsely accused Navy Seals, or you're with the terrorists.)
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To: 444Flyer
Over at tinypic.

Use it liberally, I mean, whenever you get the chance.

44 posted on 12/02/2009 8:44:00 AM PST by Semper Mark (The word, VICTORY, is not in the liberal lexicon.)
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To: DocH
Is that one of those new multi-ladders,...

I don't know, but I do know that I would love to kick it out from under him. ;-)

Semper Fi

45 posted on 12/02/2009 8:51:40 AM PST by Semper Mark (The word, VICTORY, is not in the liberal lexicon.)
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To: Markos33
WINNER.
46 posted on 12/02/2009 9:04:28 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-G. Orwell)
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To: alarm rider

LOL Have fun :^)


47 posted on 12/02/2009 12:50:46 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya

God bless them all, I feel their “absence of capable presidential leadership” pain.


48 posted on 12/02/2009 12:54:56 PM PST by drypowder
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To: drypowder
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49 posted on 12/02/2009 1:18:28 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Markos33

Good post


50 posted on 12/02/2009 1:19:35 PM PST by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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