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Monroe County man seeks indictments on President Obama for treason
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Posted on 12/02/2009 2:23:06 PM PST by wintertime

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To: Michael Barnes
That is based around Dad, what about Mom?

BO's mother was 17 years old when she was impregnated by BHO Sr. ... and turned eighteen before little BO was born ... Hawaii, Kenya, where ever. Put that aside ... she was an American citizen ... the point is the father was a foreign national ... who returned to Kenya after completing his studies in the U.S.. Both parents must be U.S. citizens, born in this country, in order for an individual to qualify for the office of POTUS.

21 posted on 12/02/2009 4:38:49 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: wintertime
Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick is upset that his charges were review by only 3 people instead of a full grand jury.

He does a wonderful job of making Obama's opponents look like unhinged crazies, frothing at the mouth. That's probably why the news gave him air time.

22 posted on 12/02/2009 5:15:24 PM PST by Drew68
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To: BluH2o
Both parents must be U.S. citizens, born in this country, in order for an individual to qualify for the office of POTUS.

Do you care to cite the law that states that an individual must have two U.S. citizen parents in order to qualify for the office of POTUS?

23 posted on 12/02/2009 5:19:53 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: wintertime
Kudos to you Mr. Fitzpatrick, and I'm proud to be a fellow Tennessean. I wholeheartedly salute you and support your efforts to keep the heat on the usurper.

I see that WVLT News has requested a response from Barry, but they - like all others who question him - will only hear the chirping of crickets.

24 posted on 12/02/2009 5:50:11 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: Drew68
He does a wonderful job of making Obama's opponents look like unhinged crazies, frothing at the mouth.

Yup, and according to you and other gleeful assorted Obots, that's exactly the perception you're seeking.

On the other hand, your buddies over at Code Pink look like fine, upstanding citizens now don't they?

25 posted on 12/02/2009 6:08:58 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: thecraw
On the other hand, your buddies over at Code Pink look like fine, upstanding citizens now don't they?

These "American Make-Believe Grand Jury" lunatics are no different than the Code Pink lunatics. They both employ the same hysterical theatrics only aimed at different presidents.

26 posted on 12/02/2009 6:32:22 PM PST by Drew68
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To: trumandogz
Do you care to cite the law that states that an individual must have two U.S. citizen parents in order to qualify for the office of POTUS?

This is always so predictable ... the father's of our constitution clearly stated their intent. It goes back to lawyer types parsing every word ... as in Clinton (probably someone you voted for ... twice. You know, the impeached one ...) stating "It depends on what your definition of what 'is' ... is."

27 posted on 12/02/2009 6:37:48 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o
This is always so predictable ... the father's of our constitution clearly stated their intent.

Actually, we are a nation of laws, laws that come directly from the Constitution and laws that have been passed that conform to our Constitution.

And nowhere in our history has a law been past that defines 'natural born citizen' in the manner you wish for it to be defined.

28 posted on 12/02/2009 6:43:20 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
And nowhere in our history has a law been past that defines 'natural born citizen' in the manner you wish for it to be defined.

My guess is that your definition of natural born is full term birth, other than, perhaps, a C-section.

29 posted on 12/02/2009 7:00:10 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o
“This is always so predictable ... the father’s of our constitution clearly stated their intent. It goes back to lawyer types parsing every word ... as in Clinton (probably someone you voted for ... twice. You know, the impeached one ...) stating “It depends on what your definition of what ‘is’ ... is.”

Actually, they didn’t state any intent. They used a term with no definition in the Constitution. The case for common law is at least as plausible as anything else.

30 posted on 12/02/2009 9:30:43 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative

They sure as heck didn’t want a bunch of folks stationed in Washinton DC making the decision.


31 posted on 12/02/2009 9:34:22 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: BluH2o
" BO's mother was 17 years old when she was impregnated by BHO Sr. ... and turned eighteen before little BO was born ... Hawaii, Kenya, where ever. Put that aside ... she was an American citizen . "

The law at the time in 1961 states that for her to transfer citizenship to Obama, she would to have been in residence in the USA 5 years after her 14th birthday, that would to have put her at 19 years old for her to transfer citizenship to Obama, she was 18 when she had Obama, so , no, she could not transfer citizenship to Obama, and that's only talking about regular citizenship, not " Natural Born " status.
32 posted on 12/02/2009 11:20:01 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Drew68

So your now saying that Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatric is a un hinged kook too ? a ex Navy JAG ?


33 posted on 12/02/2009 11:22:46 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Drew68
I don't know, from what I saw on the video, that was no " Make Believe " court house, and " Make Believe " Grand Jury room.... I guess when you get a " Make Believe " summons to serve on a jury or court notice you won't show up...
I can tell you one thing ? if you don't show up at court if your issued a summons to serve on a jury, the judge will send out a arrest warrant for your arrest.
34 posted on 12/02/2009 11:26:42 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Fitzgerald is clearly a crank on this issue. I’ve done what the folks asked here, followed the links and read his stuff. It’s pathetic. I don’t care what he did or didn’t do in the past—he’s in a sad place now. I hope he gets better.

And if you watch the video, he’s angry because they’re treating him like the crank he is.


35 posted on 12/03/2009 12:41:42 AM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: wintertime
Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick is upset that his charges were review by only 3 people instead of a full grand jury.

Could the attorneys here on Free Republic please help explain what is going on here?

Tennessee Code 40-12-104. - Application to testify by person having knowledge of commission of offense. —

(a) Any person having knowledge or proof of the commission of a public offense triable or indictable in the county may testify before the grand jury.

(b) The person having knowledge or proof shall appear before the foreman. The person may also submit the sworn affidavits of others whose testimony the person wishes to have considered.

(c) The person shall designate two (2) grand jurors who shall, with the foreman, comprise a panel to determine whether the knowledge warrants investigation by the grand jury. The panel may consult the district attorney general or the court for guidance in making its determination. The majority decision of the panel shall be final and shall be promptly communicated to the person along with reasons for the action taken.

(d) Submission of an affidavit which the person knows to be false in any material regard shall be punishable as perjury. An affiant who permits submission of a false affidavit, knowing it to be false in any material regard, is guilty of perjury. Any person subsequently testifying before the grand jury as to any material fact known by the person to be false is guilty of perjury.

[Acts 1978, ch. 727, § 1; modified; T.C.A., § 40-1626; Acts 1995, ch. 213, §§ 1-4.]

36 posted on 12/03/2009 6:51:20 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: American Constitutionalist

The law at the time in 1961 states that for her to transfer citizenship to Obama, she would to have been in residence in the USA 5 years after her 14th birthday, that would to have put her at 19 years old for her to transfer citizenship to Obama, she was 18 when she had Obama, so , no, she could not transfer citizenship to Obama, and that’s only talking about regular citizenship, not “ Natural Born “ status.


The above does not apply if Barack Hussein Obama II was born at 7:24 PM on Friday, August 4, 1961 on Honolulu and if his birth was registered with the state of Hawaii on August 8, 1961 and if the two birth announcements that appeared in Honolulu’s local newspapers on Sunday, August 13th are valid.

From the Honolulu Star-Bulliten:
Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Hawaii State Health Director, has issued a second statement Monday, July 27th confirming President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, HI.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.

I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”


37 posted on 12/03/2009 11:22:54 AM PST by jamese777
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To: BluH2o; Michael Barnes; trumandogz
Michael Barnes: That is based around Dad, what about Mom?

BluH20: BO's mother was 17 years old when she was impregnated by BHO Sr. ... and turned eighteen before little BO was born ... Hawaii, Kenya, where ever. Put that aside ... she was an American citizen ... the point is the father was a foreign national ... who returned to Kenya after completing his studies in the U.S.. Both parents must be U.S. citizens, born in this country, in order for an individual to qualify for the office of POTUS.

At the time BO was born federal law required for births between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a parent to be physically present in the U.S. for at least ten years, five of those years after the age of fourteen in order to transmit citizenship to him. Consequently his mother needed to be at least 19 years of age however she was only eighteen and therefore unable to transmit her U.S. citizenship to him.
38 posted on 12/03/2009 12:26:26 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

See 14th Amendment.


39 posted on 12/03/2009 6:21:45 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
See 14th Amendment.

Your point?
40 posted on 12/03/2009 7:50:43 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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