Posted on 12/03/2009 1:38:50 AM PST by MestaMachine
First off, I hang up on a phone bank call. I have nothing to say to them, it is meaningless. They are only on the other end to push the GOP agenda that is not my life.
Blogs? Yeah...go post over on DU or even the comments section of the news. MAYBE you'll get allowed through the censorship monitors.
Other communications? I just tossed the party mail in the trash this morning.
It is obvious you don't understand I don't want to here from them! They are not listening to me!!! The one way flow of information has to end.
Snark, snark. Check your GOP history. Ross Perot isn’t in it.
I just don't think this so called RINO hunt will net you any positive results. They tried that in my state and we ended up with a 100% democrat representation. Not a single repub or conservative. Not one.
These RINO's as you call them, are running in democrat or faux republican districts. They run as repubs to get on the ballot and for no other reason. You get rid of them, and most will be replaced with democrats as they have time after time.
The polls indicate the country is turning. These so called Rinos may well find different competition in the 2010 midterms. You don't need to write them letters, you simply need to encourage the competition for their seats. If you don't trust the RNC to support this competition, which they may well not, you donate to them directly.
If you can't find anyone to run against the RINO, then the RINO is marginally better then a democrat for numbers and control sake.
I hope this helps you understand my point.
I’ll go check thr link out now.
Can we ever!!! LET’S ROLL!!!
Somebody asked that earlier on the thread, but I am not sure how to do it myself.
As I read you post about repeating GOP history with the Whigs and all that, I thought maybe the more modern history would be a better guide for today's politics.
Fine. You disagree with the activism. Then stop trying to be a stumbling block for others. Your attitude is what will lose the war.
then the RINO is marginally better then a democrat for numbers and control sake.
This is a lie as the Rino will vote with the Dems. Your "logic" is faulty.
I understand perfectly, but you are beating around the bush! I am trying to draw you out so that you say what you mean, but to no avail.
Just say it......
And just how long would it take for my LOCAL School Board Conservative to move on up to Congressman or Senator at the pace politics as usual goes? 10 years? 20?
You willing to wait that long?
My post does not speak of a third party. My post directs us to not look at modern history, but at old history and learn from it.
JUST SAY IT!!!
You willing to wait that long?
You're right, Mesta. The Republic doesn't HAVE that long. These people are foolish and lack logic.
No you don't. If you did then you would not be in the GOP denial phase. I have stated very clearly what I am about. It is you who are in denial of the what is happening to your precious GOP. You just don't like the choice I have made.
"...After working to bring together not only the Free Soilers and Whigs, but also the Temperance party,..." and "...The committee drew up a thirteen-plank platform, ten of which concerned slavery. The platform condemned slavery and called for the repeal of the Fugitive Slave Law. It adopted the name "Republican," nominated the first state Republican ticket, and called for economic reforms. After the platform was adopted, the Free Soil Party announced the dissolution of their party and pledged their loyalty to the new Republican Party....
Following the founding of the Republican Party in Jackson on July 6, the party swept the state elections the following November. ..."
It can be done but I don’t know how to do it.
I’ve been busy with this all day, would you mind spelling it out for me. What DO we learn from it. (plus I have a major headache that won’t go away)
The silent majority has been awakened. They are conservative in nature. We can bring them together to overturn the party elite. 2010 is the call, but it will take until 2012 to fully overturn them. WE can do this, the current leaders cannot stay in authority. It is not their party, it is our party.
They don't always vote the way you want them to, but when you see that, it means that their voters do not think like you do and the politician is a representative first, and party second. They are all like that and you would be too.
I'm not defending this. I am advocating their replacement if possible.
What you don't seem to care about is the fact that if you don't do it right, you get a democrat every time. You have to work the people, not the politician.
That is where the efforts are needed. But I repeat myself and I hate that.
I'll leave you with this...Populism is out of control democracy! The United States was founded as a Republic with a republican form of government. We try to elect the best representation we can and this process has been damaged by the left. They have gradually turned it into a European style pig sty democracy where voters vote for their immediate gratification and their hip pockets and not the bigger picture.
That's where the problems are. The politicians are just a symptom of the disease and you will never get rid of the symptoms without treating the people who put them there.
That is what Reagan accomplished. He was able to gather the people together and teach them what was important.
But if you don't play the game, then there is but one option and some are not saying what they are really thinking, which is why the conversation is disjointed.
Rather than going back to the Republican party roots for answers, you have to go back to George Washington and the revolution. That was the quintessential top down political change and it worked.
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