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New Major Study Catalogues How Porn Harms Marriages, Children, Communities and Individuals
LifeNews ^ | WASHINGTON, December 2, 2009 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/03/2009 11:26:32 AM PST by GonzoII

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To: Monterrosa-24
I agree. Too bad that I’m hopelessly addicted to FreeRepublic.

LOL. Me too, but I am single so it is not harming my relationship. If things get toooooo bad between you and your other, I am sure there would be enough FReepers with the same problem and we could easily start our own 12-step program similar to AA. Happy FReeping.

61 posted on 12/03/2009 2:04:25 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
I am not talking number of individuals and if you can't figure out what I am saying, that's ok.

Interesting.

62 posted on 12/03/2009 2:06:22 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
I agree. Too bad that I’m hopelessly addicted to FreeRepublic.

The study does note that in 33% of divorces, one spouse spending time on "internet chat forums" is cited. They seem to try and count this as part of the "internet porn" problem by saying that many such forums allow sexually explicit material.

63 posted on 12/03/2009 2:11:02 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
What does not help relationships between the sexes is that men will often whine about no sex or not enough sex, but never acknowledge that if the physical aspect of a marriage is not satisfactory, there are always underlying reasons. If a women does not desire their husband, there is a problem. Two committed individuals will figure it out. A man (or woman) who just wants their needs fulfilled without regard to their partner is selfish and should not be married.

There are many reasons a woman might lose interest in sex. If it takes two committed individuals to figure it out, and she isn't committed enough to do that who's to blame?

64 posted on 12/03/2009 2:34:15 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Why spend time and energy on blaming? It's over if one or both of the parties are not committed to figuring it out. Move on. I say this and please do not think that I am anti-marriage. This couldn't be further from the truth. All you can do is change yourself. You can't fix another person. Keep in mind, fixing the marriage will not result in a perfect marriage. There is no such thing.
65 posted on 12/03/2009 2:41:28 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
Why spend time and energy on blaming? It's over if one or both of the parties are not committed to figuring it out.

Getting rid of internet pornography isn't going to fix that.

66 posted on 12/03/2009 2:53:00 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Having Internet porn isn’t going to fix it either. In my opinion, sex between a man and a women was not intended to be porn, yet porn has influenced how we think sex should be.

I need to make dinner......or said another way, I am done with this subject. Best to you.


67 posted on 12/03/2009 3:09:05 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: brytlea
We agree, the technology is different. But its improper to ask if I am aroused by cave man drawings, it's only relevant to know whether the caveman was aroused. Given the sexual saturation of our culture, both technologies may have been equally effective in their own context. I also disagree with the term "there are men who ruin their relationships because of porn." How do we know this? What if the relationship was never there to begin with? Again, we all too often see the error of confusing association with causality. What, if anything, should be "done" about porn? I suggest that women talk to their men before they commit to marriage, and if the woman finds porn distasteful, to the point that its a dealbreaker, she should be straightforward about it.
68 posted on 12/03/2009 5:25:18 PM PST by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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To: gorilla_warrior

You’re right about asking whether or not a caveman would be as aroused by a cave drawing as a modern man would be by a video clip. Seriously, if you think the answer is yes, you’re welcome to that opinion but I cannot imagine you would be right. I can’t even imagine anyone seriously making that case.
The rest of your post I can’t really argue with as it’s hypotheticals. My relationship has not been affected by porn, so anything I said would be hearsay, and you would properly tell me it’s moot.
I never suggested that anything should be done about porn. I really don’t know what CAN be done about it. You can’t put the genie back in the bottle.


69 posted on 12/03/2009 8:07:47 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea
"Being a woman I don’t understand the phenomena at all."

Don't be fooled by semantic gymnastics, it's called lust.

Mt:5:28: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

70 posted on 12/03/2009 9:03:56 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: brytlea

Women online aren’t immune...They just do it slightly differently.

If you check out any fanfiction site online, you’ll find page after page of stories written by women that involve the sexual escapades of their favorite pairings from almost any TV show, movie, cartoon, graphic novel and children’s book you can imagine. And if you look around, you’ll find fan art sites where artists, usually women, draw images of said fantasies. Some of these girls are teens; some women in their middle years.

I’m sure that’s not the only outlet, either. I imagine that in the romantic fiction places, similar things are taking place.

There is an internet jargon called Rule 34...if you can imagine porn of something, if you look around, someone will have done it already. It’s often done by women if it’s text...No doubt with its own set of side effects for them as the other porn has for men.


71 posted on 12/03/2009 9:20:05 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Without the Constitution, there is no America!)
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To: GonzoII

Indeed, but I don’t get why men are in high drive all the time! ;)


72 posted on 12/04/2009 8:39:36 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Certainly women aren’t immune, but it doesn’t seem to be the problem for them that it is for men (in large numbers). Certainly you can’t ever say “all women” or “all men” and be correct. However, porn as a serious issue in a relationship seems to overwhelming affect men, and not women.


73 posted on 12/04/2009 8:41:59 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Perdogg

images are very subjective as to what is “porn” and what is “art”.

But I always thought that paying money to people just to have sex on camera is really the same thing as prostitution.

Would that be a decent (or indecent) starting point?


74 posted on 12/04/2009 8:48:40 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: kosciusko51
Stamp out the root cause of porn-—criminalize sex outside of marriage.

Not everyone likes bondage with their sex.

75 posted on 12/04/2009 9:10:29 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: brytlea

That may be true...I suspect the effects of how it impacts humans are statistically different for men and women...but I doubt the women get off scot free...


76 posted on 12/04/2009 2:29:34 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Without the Constitution, there is no America!)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

I’d bet you are a woman and that you have not read Dr.Laura’s “ The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands”.


77 posted on 12/07/2009 7:49:43 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
how easy do you make it for your wife to desire you?

Nailed it.

(so to speak)

78 posted on 12/07/2009 7:55:33 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: SeaHawkFan

It is a two way street. The care and feeding needs to be mutual. The genders need to understand that the care and feeding is different for men than it is for women. It is also different for one couple vs. the next. When one person relies on “the proper way” as determined by that individual or some expert, then that person is disregarding their partner and only thinking of themselves, in my opinion. It boils down to the question, do you love your partner enough to think of them, more so than yourself? One of my favorite quotes: The heart that gives, gathers.


79 posted on 12/07/2009 8:08:21 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

You have a preconceived notion about the book. I’d suggest you read it.


80 posted on 12/07/2009 8:15:28 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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