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The High Costs of Copenhagen -What Obama's pledge to reduce emissions by 83% would mean
Teh Wall Street Journal ^ | DECEMBER 3, 2009, 8:05 P.M. ET | RICHARD K. LESTER

Posted on 12/03/2009 5:15:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

When President Obama goes to the Copenhagen climate change summit next week, he is expected to once again declare that the U.S. will reduce its carbon emissions 83% by 2050. Even though no legally binding agreement is expected, what Mr. Obama says in Denmark will define the U.S. position in subsequent international negotiations. He will not say how the cuts will be accomplished. For Americans, the details are worth knowing.

Annual U.S. carbon-dioxide emissions currently average about 5.5 tons of carbon per person. Achieving Mr. Obama's goal would mean reducing this to 0.63 tons per person by midcentury, taking expected population growth of just under 1% per year into account. If the rest of the world were to do likewise, global carbon dioxide emissions would be 25% lower than today.

Many climate scientists think this would put the world on track to avoid the worst consequences of climate change. Of course, other countries may well have a different view of global equity. This includes China, which in the president's version would have to reduce its rapidly increasing per capita emissions to half the current level by 2050.

Most anthropogenic CO2 emissions come from fossil fuels, so there are two main routes to achieving the president's goal. First, the U.S. must reduce the share of fossil fuels—currently 85%—in the energy supply system, which includes everything from electricity generation and transportation to industrial uses. And second, Americans must use energy more efficiently.

The more we do of one, the less we'll need of the other. But ultimately what's required will depend on America's future economic growth.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhoenvironment; carboncretins; climategate; co2; copenhagen; cruminals; globalcontrol; globalsustainability; globalwarminghoax; gorebullwarming; motleycru; unglobalintent

1 posted on 12/03/2009 5:15:35 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Idiot.


2 posted on 12/03/2009 5:16:19 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Horusra; Delacon; Thunder90; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; Nervous Tick; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 12/03/2009 5:18:03 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: All
Related article:

The Real Copenhagen Agenda: The U.N.'s climate chief tells all.

4 posted on 12/03/2009 5:18:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Whom would you be referring to?


5 posted on 12/03/2009 5:19:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Even with Climategate, they’re pushing this?


6 posted on 12/03/2009 5:20:28 PM PST by RockinRight (The sleeping giant has been awoken, and he's PISSED.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Fraggin' in Copenhagen.

America is toast.

7 posted on 12/03/2009 5:21:09 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that hopey changey "diversity" thing workin' out for ya?)
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To: xcamel

Not sure where the global warming topic fits anymore...


8 posted on 12/03/2009 5:21:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But ultimately what’s required will depend on America’s future economic growth.( If any.)


9 posted on 12/03/2009 5:22:39 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RockinRight

You betcha.....see #4!


10 posted on 12/03/2009 5:24:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It means a lot of folks would be walking and riding bikes.


11 posted on 12/03/2009 5:31:44 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Not going to happen. Any politician who seeks to impose a lower standard of living on his constituents is going to be looking for another line of work.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

12 posted on 12/03/2009 5:50:35 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
‘zackly. Bring the CO2 treaty to the US Senate and see what happens.
13 posted on 12/03/2009 5:57:43 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: goldstategop
Any politician who seeks to impose a lower standard of living on his constituents..

Guess again. The Democratic constituency will still vote for the Maxine Walters and Babs Boxer because the evil Pubbies are to blame and the welfare checks just keep on comin'.

14 posted on 12/03/2009 5:58:03 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzSzItt6h-s&feature=related
There has been a plethora of evidence from REAL scientists put out in the last years = derided, of course, by the goricles and ignored by the MSM - but what about US?

This refuting evidence has been available for anyone who does a tiny bit of research - without breaking a sweat.

We have the Internet. We have GOOGLE. We have YouTube.

Last year, I sent these articles - had a long list of them - everywhere I could think: all the media and in FR. I finally gave up as no one, even in FR, responded.

Besides, During last winter, one of the bitterest I can remember (and I’m a great grandmother) was too busy lugging wood in and keeping my stove going and my toes warm.

But I’ll post this Part one of one of many exposes - they’d be perfect now for FOX news to air - (go to the side bar on YouTube for lots of debunking - actually, I’ve posted a better link for everyone below)

At the very least, this would be a good video for showing as it’s super simple for the general public to understand - and they would be a lot harder to fool again/

“It’s the Sun Spots, Stupid”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BmWy6Nsm6I&feature=related

I’m going to email the above to our regulars: if they get enough emails on one subject, they will run with it.

glennbeck@foxnews.com

hannity@foxnews.com

oreilly@foxnews.com

greta@foxnews.com

rush@eibnet.com

Sarah’s FB - http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/sarahpalin?ref=ts

If you email them, do not mass email - send individually or they won’t get looked at.

I’m simply putting my title:

“It’s The Sun Spots, Stupid” and the video link

If we, the ‘little people’, go viral on this to let the media know we’re not going to let this be swept aside again - we can win this. We have a small window - will we take it?

I’ve lost my email adds. to the MSM - as I said, I was busy last winter - and it’s getting downright cold again.

(read my tag line)


15 posted on 12/03/2009 6:08:23 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Thommas

Maxine Waters, Barbra Boxer, Chuck Shumer, Nancy Pelosi, et. al. will always be voted in by their welfare constituency, the dead and an assortment of cartoon characters.


16 posted on 12/03/2009 6:10:40 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Climategate or not a deal will be struck at Copenhoaxen.

If I were a betting man, I would say that the Climategate scandal will die away in short order, even though there is plenty of evidence to prove it has all been a hoax.

Today at work the subject came up about “climate change”. Two women and four guys. Not one of them believe the emails are true. The ladies believe the emails were made up to try to stop Obama. All pointed to the temp today (upper 60’s today in Mass and NH) and said that there definitely is something wrong with the climate.

Now these people are educated folks; business manager, software engineer, and electrical/mechanical engineers.

The statement “we have to do something” kept coming up.

The whitewashing seems to be working quite well unfortunately. And only the conservative websites and news blogs are talking about the scandal.

What do the people around you folks believe?

I see nothing but bad legislation in the future for this garbage.

17 posted on 12/03/2009 6:14:43 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: maine-iac7

You are right, of course. We should send information and comments on our displeasure to those who should make a difference. We can hope it will make an impact, but the fear is that the elite’s mind set is such that the truth is of no consequence.


18 posted on 12/03/2009 6:15:25 PM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

lol....absolutely not you. My President.


19 posted on 12/03/2009 6:19:11 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: CapnJack
“we have to do something”

The refrain of the stupid.

20 posted on 12/03/2009 6:30:22 PM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: denydenydeny
“The refrain of the stupid.”

I know! Sometimes I feel like the last guy running around at the end of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers when I go to work on the North Shore of Mass.

The people down there (and now in NH) believe this stuff hook, line, and sinker. And they won't believe anything else. And then they drive away in their Chevy Suburbans and Yukon's.

21 posted on 12/03/2009 6:50:22 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: CapnJack

You could take them at their word and set their SUVs on fire. Looks different when it’s not Earth First doing something about it on some dealer’s inventory.


22 posted on 12/04/2009 3:24:25 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: CapnJack; Psycho_Bunny; maine-iac7; goldstategop; Eric in the Ozarks; NormsRevenge; RockinRight; ...
See this thread....the data base used for the climate models is a HUGE PROBLEM....see post #6....:

CLIMATEGATE SCANDAL AND THE DEFEAT OF AUSTRALIA’S EMISSION’S TRADING SYSTEM

23 posted on 12/04/2009 12:32:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: RockinRight

This has nothing to do with Climate and everything to do with establishing a world government bent on Malthusian population control.


24 posted on 12/04/2009 12:34:24 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
ha ha - first alGora chickens out of (H)openhagen and now obummer has!

the ‘chickens are coming home to roost?”

25 posted on 12/04/2009 3:25:54 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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