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Exclusive: White House aides insisted F-22 be removed from Obama speech venue
The Cable ^ | 12/02/2009

Posted on 12/03/2009 10:07:16 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

When President Obama spoke to troops at Alaska's Elmendorf Air Force Base last month, the unit there parked a shiny new F-22 fighter plane in the hangar. But according to multiple sources, White House aides demanded the plane be changed to an older F-15 fighter because they didn't want Obama speaking in front of the F-22, a controversial program he fought hard to end.

"White House aides actually made them remove the F-22-said they would not allow POTUS to be pictured with the F-22 in any way, shape, or form," one source close to the unit relayed.

Stephen Lee, a public affairs officer at Elmendorf, confirmed to The Cable that the F-22 was parked in the hangar and then was replaced by an F-15 at the White House's behest.

The airmen there took offense to the Obama aides' demand, sources told The Cable, seeing it as a slight to the folks who are operating the F-22 proudly every day. They also expressed bewilderment that the White House staff would even care so much as to make an issue out of the fact that the F-22 was placed in the hangar with the president.

A White House official, commenting on background basis, told The Cable that yes, there were discussions about which plane or planes would be in the hangar, but that they were not meant as an insult to the pilots and other personnel who work on the F-22. The official couldn't elaborate on why the White House aides felt it necessary to get involved in the matter in the first place.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecable.foreignpolicy.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: aerospace; bho44; bhodod; elmendorf; elmendorfafb; f22; moreobamaboobery; obama; photoops
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1 posted on 12/03/2009 10:07:16 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

I wonder if the next time he speaks we can demand to listen to an older president?


2 posted on 12/03/2009 10:08:52 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Keep your dog. Get rid of a Liberal.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

F-22 at Obama’s Elmendorf AFB Speech Removed by White House

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-13271.html

And some comments from F-16.net


3 posted on 12/03/2009 10:08:58 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: VeniVidiVici

ROTFLOL


4 posted on 12/03/2009 10:09:29 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
Like they wanted the Cross of Jesus Christ down (or covered at least) at Georgetown University.

These people don't fool me.

They are neither Christians, nor Defenders of Peace, Freedom and Democracy.

5 posted on 12/03/2009 10:10:11 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo ( Socialism cannot succeed if the PRODUCERS of society refuse, en-mass, to even fund it)
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To: Jet Jaguar

THE MAN WHO DESPISES AMERICA

6 posted on 12/03/2009 10:10:44 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jet Jaguar

Sheesh, just when you thought Ubama couldn’t be any worse of a scumbag...


7 posted on 12/03/2009 10:12:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Kathy in Alaska; Cindy; LucyT

Ping


8 posted on 12/03/2009 10:12:28 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Sparky1776; militant2; TaMoDee; freedumb2003

Not quite an F-16 ping.


9 posted on 12/03/2009 10:13:21 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: freekitty; unkus; flat; dk/coro; SkyPilot; sheik yerbouty; celtic gal; SouthTexas; SoldierDad; ...

This should make your day! NOT

What a national disgrace.


10 posted on 12/03/2009 10:13:44 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: Nachum; myknowledge

Ping.


11 posted on 12/03/2009 10:14:35 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: VeniVidiVici; Jet Jaguar

Speaking of older presidents, here’s what happened when President George Bush stopped by another Alaskan Air Force Base (Eielson) back in 2008:

The Value of Service

By Lt. Col. Mark Murphy
354th Maintenance Group deputy commander

EIELSON AIR FORCE BASE, Alaska — I learned a big lesson on service Aug. 4, 2008, when Eielson had the rare honor of hosting President Bush on a refueling stop as he traveled to Asia. It was an event Eielson will never forget — a hangar full of Airmen and Soldiers getting to see the Commander in Chief up close, and perhaps even shaking his hand. An incredible amount of effort goes into presidential travel because of all of the logistics, security, protocol, etc ... so it was remarkable to see Air Force One land at Eielson on time at precisely 4:30 p.m.—however, when he left less than two hours later, the President was 15 minutes behind schedule. That’s a big slip for something so tightly choreographed, but very few people know why it happened. Here’s why.

On Dec. 10, 2006, our son, Shawn, was a paratrooper deployed on the outskirts of Baghdad. He was supposed to spend the night in camp, but when a fellow soldier became ill Shawn volunteered to take his place on a nighttime patrol—in the convoy’s most exposed position as turret gunner in the lead Humvee. He was killed instantly with two other soldiers when an IED ripped through their vehicle.

I was thinking about that as my family and I sat in the audience listening to the President’s speech, looking at the turret on the up-armored Humvee the explosive ordnance disposal flight had put at the edge of the stage as a static display. When the speech was over and the President was working the crowd line, I felt a tap on my shoulder and turned to see a White House staff member. She asked me and my wife to come with her, because the President wanted to meet us.

Stunned, we grabbed our two sons that were with us and followed her back into a conference room. It was a shock to go from a crowded, noisy hangar, past all of those security people, to find ourselves suddenly alone in a quiet room.

The only thing we could hear was a cell phone vibrating, and noticed that it was coming from the jacket Senator Stevens left on a chair. We didn’t answer. A short time later, the Secret Service opened the door and President Bush walked in. I thought we might get to shake his hand as he went through. But instead, he walked up to my wife with his arms wide, pulled her in for a hug and a kiss, and said, “I wish I could heal the hole in your heart.” He then grabbed me for a hug, as well as each of our sons. Then he turned and said, “Everybody out.”

A few seconds later, the four of us were completely alone behind closed doors with the President of the United States and not a Secret Service agent in sight.

He said, “Come on, let’s sit down and talk.” He pulled up a chair at the side of the room, and we sat down next to him. He looked a little tired from his trip, and he noticed that his shoes were scuffed up from leaning over concrete barriers to shake hands and pose for photos. He slumped down the chair, completely relaxed, smiled, and suddenly was no longer the President - he was just a guy with a job, sitting around talking with us like a family member at a barbeque.

For the next 15 or 20 minutes, he talked with us about our son, Iraq, his family, faith, convictions, and shared his feelings about nearing the end of his presidency. He asked each of our teenaged sons what they wanted to do in life and counseled them to set goals, stick to their convictions, and not worry about being the “cool” guy. He said that he’d taken a lot of heat during his tenure and was under a lot of pressure to do what’s politically expedient, but was proud to say that he never sold his soul. Sometimes he laughed, and at others he teared up. He said that what he’ll miss most after leaving office will be his role as Commander in Chief.

One of the somber moments was when he thanked us for the opportunity to meet, because he feels a heavy responsibility knowing that our son died because of a decision he made. He was incredibly humble, full of warmth, and completely without pretense. We were seeing the man his family sees.

We couldn’t believe how long he was talking to us, but he seemed to be in no hurry whatsoever. In the end, he thanked us again for the visit and for the opportunity to get off his feet for a few minutes. He then said, “Let’s get some pictures.” The doors flew open, Secret Service and the White House photographer came in, and suddenly he was the President again. We posed for individual pictures as he gave each of us one of his coins, and then he posed for family pictures. A few more thank yous, a few more hugs, and he was gone. The remarkable thing about the whole event was that he didn’t have to see us at all. If he wanted to do more, he could’ve ! just given a quick handshake and said, “Thanks for your sacrifice.” But he didn’t - he put everything and everyone in his life on hold to meet privately with the family of a Private First Class who gave his life in the service of his country.

What an incredible lesson on service. If the President of the United States is willing to drop everything on his plate to visit with a family, surely the rest of us can do it. No one is above serving another person, and no one is so lofty that he or she can’t treat others with dignity and respect.

We often think of service in terms of sacrificing ourselves for someone in a position above us, but how often do we remember that serving someone below us can be much more important? If you’re in a leadership capacity, take a good look at how you’re treating your people, and remember that your role involves serving the people you rely on every day.


12 posted on 12/03/2009 10:15:04 PM PST by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: Jeff Head

I love this pic. I always picture a 3 way fight between Richardson, Clinton and zero.

I say it goes to wrestling fast and Hillary barely beats Richardson. Same weight class but meaner. Regardless, the wirey One cannot possibly hold up on the ground against anything bigger than 160 pounds.

Look at Obama’s physique. Scary huh? :) I think the school marm in white on the right could take him. Hell, even my little brother could take that panzi. That says a lot.


13 posted on 12/03/2009 10:15:16 PM PST by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: 21twelve

Thank you. I was at Osan AB, Korea when President GWB visited. We had a great time.


14 posted on 12/03/2009 10:18:06 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Another uninvited guest.


15 posted on 12/03/2009 10:19:11 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Daddy's First Christmas!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Would 0bama even have known the difference between an F-22 and an F-15???


16 posted on 12/03/2009 10:20:37 PM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: Jet Jaguar

For the last 17 years i grew used to hearing the F-15’s fly by where I work on the approaches back to Elmandorf, now with the F-22’s I rarely hear them anymore.The same for the nightly flyby of the three C 130’s over my house, now its mostly the C 17 which is a lot quieter.

I wish someone would just retouch the photos and stick the F-22 back in the photos.


17 posted on 12/03/2009 10:22:13 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Would spring please arrive early, My new motorcycle awaits to run free and wild.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

He should have been pictured in front of a model of the Hindenburg.


18 posted on 12/03/2009 10:22:20 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Jet Jaguar

bump


19 posted on 12/03/2009 10:22:52 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (Good Lord deliver us)
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To: Guyin4Os

I would tend to think so.

The F-15 was paid for.

The F-22, he could cancel, and send the money to ACORN and SEIU.


20 posted on 12/03/2009 10:22:59 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

If I were him, I'd have the Raptor behind me while I'm on the podium.

BTW, that must be a 19th FS "Fighting Gamecocks" F-15 Eagle.

21 posted on 12/03/2009 10:25:51 PM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

More than a few USAF folks called in to the local conservative radio show. One Airman said when those in his shop were asked about attending, they all said no. Other callers said they were “told” to be there.

I’m not sure there are ANY patriots in the White HOuse. And it would never do for any pictures to get out of the F-22 anywhere near himself. Of course it was an intentional slight.


22 posted on 12/03/2009 10:26:16 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (~ RIP Brian...heaven's gain...the Coast Guard lost a good one.~)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Were the airmen testing Obama or just teasing him?


23 posted on 12/03/2009 10:26:37 PM PST by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

He’s a very small and petty man.


24 posted on 12/03/2009 10:28:07 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: piasa

LOL!


25 posted on 12/03/2009 10:28:59 PM PST by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
"White House aides insisted F-22 be removed from Obama speech venue"

Here's an idea, REMOVE OBAMA...and leave the F-22 in place.
26 posted on 12/03/2009 10:29:16 PM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: 21twelve

Great story!!!


27 posted on 12/03/2009 10:30:38 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff,

Thanks for posting that photo; that single photo should tell all Americans everything they ever need to know about barack hussein obama.

That photo should be fixed in place at the top of every FR post to serve as a constant reminder of what we're dealing with for a pres-ent.

It tells us who he is, what he believes and where he is from. It also tells us where we are going under his leadership (using the term "leader" loosely).

We have been successfully invaded by this interloper, and a slow, progressive coup is in progress.

ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS - Fear is NOT and option.
28 posted on 12/03/2009 10:34:14 PM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: 21twelve

Great story. I hear he’s been visiting family’s since leaving office too. A decent man indeed.


29 posted on 12/03/2009 10:43:01 PM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Better be specific on that..you could end up with Carter.


30 posted on 12/03/2009 10:51:47 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: Jeff Head

I hope anyone who runs against this moron will use this and the bowing pictures in ads and posters against him..he has given both dems and repubs plenty of ammo.


31 posted on 12/03/2009 10:53:42 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: 21twelve

That one got me. W was the most unappreciated man on earth during most of his tenure, but he knew, and many of us knew, that he was doing exactly what had to be done. History will be a far kinder judge.

God Bless him, and Laura, How they deserve a long, peaceful retirement in Tx.


32 posted on 12/03/2009 11:03:14 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: celtic gal
At the rate this is going......All I can see is the honorable men and women of our US Armed Forces, any and all branches, when pulled into service to be background photo-op props for this joker/imposter, and while having to report for duty of course under the CIC no questions asked, may in those staged photos have to for the sake of their own sanity resort to a little passive-aggression, in the form of ever-so-subtle middle finger salutes, middle-finger nose picking, etc. etc. as per the crew of the USS Pueblo and our pilot heroes from Vietnam when captured by Asian communists.

File: "The Hawaiian Good Luck Sign"


33 posted on 12/03/2009 11:18:30 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo ( Socialism cannot succeed if the PRODUCERS of society refuse, en-mass, to even fund it)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Jet Jaguar; Jeff Head; Lancey Howard; Kathy in Alaska

34 posted on 12/03/2009 11:26:12 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

Well done.


35 posted on 12/03/2009 11:27:27 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar; SevenofNine

36 posted on 12/04/2009 12:06:22 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: Jet Jaguar

Buck Farack.


37 posted on 12/04/2009 12:07:56 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: monkapotamus; Kathy in Alaska

Well done. Thank you.


38 posted on 12/04/2009 12:09:37 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
He had no objections to being photographed with this POS:

39 posted on 12/04/2009 12:11:57 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Jet Jaguar; All

Sent link to Drudge.
We all should, people should know the shameful petty SOBs these loathsome people are and how they treat our military.


40 posted on 12/04/2009 12:25:10 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Bon mots
I am CONVINCED THAT is the one photo which telegraphed capitulation and weakness throughout Latin America and emboldened Manuel Zelaya to do his Unconstitutional Power Grab in Honduras in the summer--backed by Chavez of course. Look at the timeline. They read right through this Obama character and said "hey, this guy is a malecon, a pushover. We can do whatever we want now. Hey, Mel, I'll even print up the ballots for you in Venezuela."

The "bow" in Tokyo weakened us in Asia. This fellow and the people around him are bad news. Big time.

Pray for America.

41 posted on 12/04/2009 12:29:52 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo ( Socialism cannot succeed if the PRODUCERS of society refuse, en-mass, to even fund it)
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To: PhilDragoo
Japanese, swarms of them, were in LOVE with F-22 Raptors visiting Japan this summer! (Too bad our CinC isn't)(LINK)
42 posted on 12/04/2009 12:40:54 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo ( Socialism cannot succeed if the PRODUCERS of society refuse, en-mass, to even fund it)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The official couldn't elaborate on why the White House aides felt it necessary to get involved in the matter in the first place.

Because for these guys, just as was the case with Bill and Hill, image is everything.

43 posted on 12/04/2009 12:58:23 AM PST by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: EDINVA

“W was the most unappreciated man on earth during most of his tenure, but he knew, and many of us knew, that he was doing exactly what had to be done. History will be a far kinder judge.

God Bless him, and Laura, How they deserve a long, peaceful retirement in Tx.”

_______________________________________

You’re absolutely right. He is a good man and will be remembered as one of our best, and most important, given these times, presidents. God Bless him and Laura.

_____________________________________


44 posted on 12/04/2009 2:51:04 AM PST by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: 21twelve
http://www.eielson.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123111092
45 posted on 12/04/2009 5:47:45 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The official couldn't elaborate on why the White House aides felt it necessary to get involved in the matter in the first place.

That's the best line of the story. It's all about control -- full control of everything at all levels. They want to control everything from what kind of light bulb you use to how often you get a rectal exam, and who gives it. For them there is no distinction between controlling the little things that seem to mean little or the major things that mean a lot. Control must be absolute.

For Marxism to appear to work, they need full, absolute and total control.

46 posted on 12/04/2009 6:53:45 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (Get rid of the dirty moderates. Get rid of them,)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Air Show 09

Photo I took of an F-22 and P-38 during an airshow this past summer.

47 posted on 12/04/2009 8:09:00 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Words fail me. Just when you thought it could not get worse-——Thank God President George W Bush was my commander in chief.


48 posted on 12/04/2009 8:48:56 AM PST by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: monkapotamus

HOW RUDE Monk that funny photoshop remind of Charles Brown Snoopy fighting Red Baron ROFL


49 posted on 12/04/2009 10:06:28 AM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: VeniVidiVici

TOO FUNNY yeah like take down potrait of former US President like Reagan Ford Bush 41 and 43 because they are OLD and WHITE ROFL


50 posted on 12/04/2009 10:07:31 AM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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