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Morning Joe Guest: ClimateGate Scientists Being 'Swiftboated'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/04/2009 5:02:48 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Fake but accurate rides again! The same lame defense Dan Rather used in Memogate has been trotted out on ClimateGate by Columbia Univ. Prof. Jeffrey Sachs.

Appearing on Morning Joe today, the author of Common Wealth [note play on words: your money is our money] alleged that the real victims in this scandal are . . . the number-fudging scientists. People are attempting to "Swiftboat" those poor CRU guys, sighed Sachs. For good measure, the good professor asserted that "what happened is not a very big deal."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; danrather; jeffreysachs; joescarborough

1 posted on 12/04/2009 5:02:50 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Columbia prof says ClimateGate scientists being “Swiftboated.” Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 12/04/2009 5:04:10 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Horusra; Delacon; Thunder90; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; ...
Everything the left touches becomes corrupted. Ignorant leftist academia here defending lying leftist "science".

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 12/04/2009 5:09:00 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: steelyourfaith

That is a true statement, Kerry was attacked with the truth and so are these “scientist”.


4 posted on 12/04/2009 5:11:12 AM PST by The Klingon
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The only problem is that John Kerry still has refused to release his medical records! Sachs seems to think that “Swiftboated” means some kind of organized distortion of the truth. It seems to me that there could well be another definition: “To have the truth about your actions exposed by those who were there.”


5 posted on 12/04/2009 5:15:06 AM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Has Climategate been mentioned before on the show -- I mean at least an accurate summary of what's involved? Or is the first thing viewers are seeing on it the defense (such as it is)? I think the MSM has used this MO before -- ignore the original story, but a week or two or three later give a lot of coverage to the denials!
6 posted on 12/04/2009 5:16:39 AM PST by maryz
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To: Liz; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; governsleastgovernsbest

I gave money to the Swift Boat Vets (Jim O Neill) in 2004, he is what made that election enjoyable. I loved watching Kerry get mad, or act mad, he was so robotic.

JEFFREY SACHS: This is pretty serious. Not what happened(the global warming numbers fraud) , but how it’s being responded to(the outing) . Because this is really trying to Swiftboat science (Al Gore).


7 posted on 12/04/2009 5:21:17 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Have you ever noticed that Republicans never get “Swiftboated”? Only Democrats and liberals.


8 posted on 12/04/2009 5:23:37 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The “scientist” says that we have had a decades long crisis in the environment. What in the world is the definition of a crisis for these loons?


9 posted on 12/04/2009 5:25:40 AM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Bahbah

Great point. At the rate the temperature is failing to rise, this “crisis” could go on for centuries!


10 posted on 12/04/2009 5:27:13 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Conservative criticism of the liberal media: www.finkelblog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I saw this interview this morning, and as usual, Joe performed the role of RINO stooge well. They all sat there and let this fool blather on...


11 posted on 12/04/2009 5:29:40 AM PST by Matt Hatter
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Swiftboated = TRUTH


12 posted on 12/04/2009 5:30:56 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Columbia prof says ClimateGate scientists being “Swiftboated.”

Indeed he is --just like Kerry his lies are being exposed
13 posted on 12/04/2009 5:31:59 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Matt Hatter

Joe probably never heard of it before, like Charles Gibson and the ACORN tapes a couple months back.


14 posted on 12/04/2009 5:32:43 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I saw Professor Sucks on Morning Joe. Sucks remains a true believer, if there ever was one.


15 posted on 12/04/2009 5:35:01 AM PST by hflynn (The One is really the Number Two)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So the lying sacks also served in Vietnam?


16 posted on 12/04/2009 5:43:49 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Convienent to forget the Swift Boater were telling the TRUTH


17 posted on 12/04/2009 5:44:23 AM PST by The Wizard (I support Madame President, the only President in America today)
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To: The Wizard

LOL! Exactly.

Swiftboating is truth telling.


18 posted on 12/04/2009 5:46:02 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Swiftboated? Great!!! That means other members of his group are exposing his lies and it will lead to his defeat!


19 posted on 12/04/2009 5:46:20 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Swiftboated?” You mean somebody is telling the ugly truth about a Liberal’s misdeeds? Heavens help us!


20 posted on 12/04/2009 5:49:28 AM PST by Little Ray (Cheney / Norris in 2012!)
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To: Little Ray

Count on the MSM to overlook the obvious.


21 posted on 12/04/2009 5:51:31 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
alleged that the real victims in this scandal are . . . the number-fudging scientists. People are attempting to "Swiftboat" those poor CRU guys, sighed Sachs.

Wow! I can remember when getting caught in a lie was a BAD thing.

Now it's just another reason to be 'offended'.

22 posted on 12/04/2009 5:53:19 AM PST by MamaTexan (Sooner or later, the federal government will realize that the Laws of Nature can be a real b$tch!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Springman; Bahbah
I only got to watch the 1st 15 mins. but Norah O'Donnell was a breath of fresh air on the show this morning. Joking around and such. Mika better watch her back.
23 posted on 12/04/2009 5:53:28 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Mark Levin calls it the “Morning Shmo”.

I guess that why Mark Levin is “The Great One” LOL.


24 posted on 12/04/2009 5:55:41 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Columbia Univ. Prof. Jeffrey Sachs.

Do we have an e-mail address and phone number for this thief and con-man?

25 posted on 12/04/2009 5:59:01 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
In a nutshell, the state of anthropogenic global warming (the real issue, not the catchall "climate change") is:

1) Climategate has revealed fraudulent science, sloppy science, and political maneuvering to subvert peer review and good scientific process.
2) Recent research has definitively discredited the computer models that indicate that increasing CO2 will result in severe, runaway warming.
3) The paleoclimate record shows that our current climate is not at all unusual.
4) The last few years have shown no warming, instead, slight to moderate cooling depending on what dataset you use.
5) Ocean and CO2 levels are rising at a slower than expected rate, consistent with (3) above.

Conclusion: There is NO "global warming crisis" to justify wrecking our economy, lowering our standard of living, and transferring countless billions of dollars to "poor" countries. We must not stand for a single penny of taxpayer money to be spent on this fraud, and further we must repeal the absurd "CO2 is pollution" legislation.

26 posted on 12/04/2009 6:00:58 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: sickoflibs
Sachs: what happened is not a very big deal.

Link: Researcher: NASA hiding climate data

Lots of FR threads on this.

27 posted on 12/04/2009 6:06:27 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Morning Joe Guest: ClimateGate Scientists Being 'Swiftboated'

Waterboard them too.

28 posted on 12/04/2009 6:06:57 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: The Klingon
That is a true statement, Kerry was attacked with the truth and so are these “scientist”.

Which is exactly why these individuals should not be called "scientists." Call them what they are, "charlatans."

29 posted on 12/04/2009 6:08:20 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: AppyPappy

That’s because conservatives and Republicans are often attacked with something other than the truth....

hh


30 posted on 12/04/2009 6:09:11 AM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Anybody who uses the term “Swiftboat” in discussing AGW is revealing a deeper political agenda. Makes it easier to dismiss what they are saying.


31 posted on 12/04/2009 6:10:11 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Mark Levin calls it the “Morning Shmo”.

The schm- prefix.

Joe->schmoe

Oedipus->schmoedipus

Doctor: Madam, your son has an Oedipus complex.

Boy's mother: Oedipus, Schmoedipus! What does it matter as long as he loves his mother!

32 posted on 12/04/2009 6:16:17 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Why bother? After all, it’s Columbia ;-)


33 posted on 12/04/2009 6:31:18 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: MamaTexan

Wow! I can remember when getting caught in a lie was a BAD thing.

so true - If you don’t want to get swiftboated, don’t lie.

My big problem with this is that the left has successfully shifted the focus to the emails and away from the altered data.

If corporate financial data were altered in this way the liberal congresscritters would be all over it like stink on poop. I wonder if some new compliance law will be written to make sure that this doesn’t happen again, ala SOX regulations that bean counters must document and follow to the letter.


34 posted on 12/04/2009 6:46:13 AM PST by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The same lame defense Dan Rather used in Memogate has been trotted out on ClimateGate by Columbia Univ. Prof. Jeffrey Sachs.

Jeffrey Sachs rants about the "religious right" and "separation of church and state":

"No Place for Piety" The New Scientist, November 8, 2003

He was upset because Bush wasn't funding "family planning" (i.e. abortion) worldwide.

35 posted on 12/04/2009 6:54:37 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"People are attempting to 'Swiftboat' those poor CRU guys", sighed Sachs.

???

I agree, people ARE trying to expose the lies of those science frauds.

36 posted on 12/04/2009 7:40:44 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You mean global warming is seared -- SEARED!! -- into their memory?

I didn't know that Mann, Jones, Briffa, and Hansen had been to Viet Nam or Cambodia.

Cheers!

37 posted on 12/04/2009 4:23:23 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Scotswife; The Wizard
Convienent to forget the Swift Boater were telling the TRUTH

LOL! Exactly.

Swiftboating is truth telling.

Exactly. An "Inconvenient" Truth.

And the "scientific" studies these clowns are producing are
"UNFIT FOR PUBLICATION".

Cheers!

38 posted on 12/04/2009 4:26:20 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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