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Are Sunspots Disappearing? (Global Cooling Alert)
Nasa ^ | 09.03.2009 | Matt Penn

Posted on 12/04/2009 9:41:40 AM PST by dila813

September 3, 2009: The sun is in the pits of the deepest solar minimum in nearly a century. Weeks and sometimes whole months go by without even a single tiny sunspot. The quiet has dragged out for more than two years, prompting some observers to wonder, are sunspots disappearing?

"Personally, I'm betting that sunspots are coming back," says researcher Matt Penn of the National Solar Observatory (NSO) in Tucson, Arizona. But, he allows, "there is some evidence that they won't."

Penn's colleague Bill Livingston of the NSO has been measuring the magnetic fields of sunspots for the past 17 years, and he has found a remarkable trend. Sunspot magnetism is on the decline:

(Excerpt) Read more at science.nasa.gov ...


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KEYWORDS: globalwarming; sunspots
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Wow, if this happens, we are going to want all the green house gases we can to prevent another Ice Age. Look at that trend chart.

"Sunspot magnetic fields are dropping by about 50 gauss per year," says WPenn. "If we extrapolate this trend into the future, sunspots could completely vanish around the year 2015."

1 posted on 12/04/2009 9:41:40 AM PST by dila813
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To: dila813

I’d say, we’re screwed.


2 posted on 12/04/2009 9:46:09 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: dila813
"Personally, I'm betting that sunspots are coming back," says researcher Matt Penn of the National Solar Observatory (NSO) in Tucson, Arizona. But, he allows, "there is some evidence that they won't."

My word.

Sunspots are cyclic. We know that. They come and they go. Sometimes their presence or their absence is especially notable. At the present time, their absence is extremely pronounced. Fine.

But evidence that they won't come back? Excuse me? Does this guy panic at 9PM, worried that dawn will never come? This guy is a solar researcher, and he talks like that??

3 posted on 12/04/2009 9:46:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: dila813

Bookmark


4 posted on 12/04/2009 9:47:58 AM PST by dragnet2
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But, he allows, “there is some evidence that they won’t.”

Well, my dimwitted friend, evidence hasn’t stopped you aholes from reaching your moronic conclusions yet...


5 posted on 12/04/2009 9:48:42 AM PST by jessduntno (Make the Democrats STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation...dump them out in 2010.)
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To: dila813

Global Cooling Alert!!!!

We need Government-Funded SUV’s!!!


6 posted on 12/04/2009 9:50:35 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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This is exactly what I have been saying for years, if the people screaming end of the world, global warming, ect had an ounce of honesty they would be the first people calling for increased use of SUV’s, and a major campaign to build thousands of coal fired power plants to fight the coming Ice Age.

But that will NEVER happen, because it was never about stopping global warming, it was just an attack on our modern way of life and capitalism and America in particular.

7 posted on 12/04/2009 9:51:57 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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My word.

Sunspots are cyclic. We know that. They come and they go. Sometimes their presence or their absence is especially notable. At the present time, their absence is extremely pronounced. Fine.

But evidence that they won't come back? Excuse me? Does this guy panic at 9PM, worried that dawn will never come? This guy is a solar researcher, and he talks like that??

Except that the rotation of the earth is far more predictable and understood than sunspots. I'm not necessarily agreeing with the author, but it's entirely possible that we could see 1000 years without any sunspots, whereas the rising of the sun as a result of the earth's rotation is definitely assured.

All a function of things we understand verses things we do not.

8 posted on 12/04/2009 9:53:08 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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This is caused by Man using too much spot remover.

OMG, WE HAVE TO BAN SPOT REMOVER NOW!!!

</my liberal moment>

9 posted on 12/04/2009 9:53:15 AM PST by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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Not to worry.

The UN, IPCC, CRU, and the rest of the cabal of global Nazis will simply turn their "Dangerous global warming" graphs upside down.

Then we'll be told that they need to save us from the trend of dangerous global cooling.

10 posted on 12/04/2009 9:53:16 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: dila813

could, might, maybe, perhaps,


11 posted on 12/04/2009 9:53:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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This is a very interesting article for two reasons:

#1, it demonstrates that there is a lot to be learned about climate change and it does indicate the possibility of cooling.

#2. Just as important you will note that we do not see hysterical wailing that the world is going to go back to the ice age with 5,000 ft. mountains of ice in IL and WI and that we are all going to die if we do not do something before dark tonight.

Instead you have the REAL scientists coll headed relation of the facts as he sees them and an admission that it is new ground that needs more examination and even that the research may be flawed.

Contrast that with the crazy rants of Al Gore and the rest of the GW crowd announcing that the world will end in years if not months.

These guys are to be respected whether right or not.


12 posted on 12/04/2009 9:54:23 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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After ClimateGate, any scientist should know how to gaurd the tongue. The news folks should find the skeptics who will blast this guy with the raw data (graph of the cycles).

But don't expect the media to come a running. They are still trying to hold back ClimateGate is hopes that Obama will take Global control at Copenhagen.

13 posted on 12/04/2009 9:55:41 AM PST by sr4402
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Wow, if this happens, we are going to want all the green house gases we can to prevent another Ice Age. Look at that trend chart.

Too soon to panic. Somebody could plot a trend line of daylight hours from late June to late July and the trend line would show that we'd be heading toward perpetual nighttime.

14 posted on 12/04/2009 9:56:57 AM PST by Wissa ("So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."-Padme Amidala)
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To: dila813

The thing is, this could be correlated with the natural cycle of sunspots themselves, as pointed out in the article. Nobody really knows since most of the data is from DURING that cycle.

2009 had had fewer sunspots than 2008, so the minimum may not have been reached.


15 posted on 12/04/2009 9:58:13 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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OMG. How could we have possibly cause sun spots to disappear.

Algore will probably postulate the problem with sunspots disappearing is it tends to mask the global warming that is occurring...


16 posted on 12/04/2009 10:01:17 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: netmilsmom

Somehow, someway, this has got to be BUSH’S FAULT!.....................


17 posted on 12/04/2009 10:01:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Al Gore is the Bernie Madoff of environmentalism. He belongs in jail. - Unknown Blogger)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

No, if we go into a period of cooling, the socialists will suddenly realize that doubling CO2 will only increase heat retention by 2%, thus coal burning won’t matter.


18 posted on 12/04/2009 10:03:34 AM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We may be in the beginnings of another “Maunder Minimum.” The lats time we had one, 1645-1715, we also had the “Little Ice Age.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum


19 posted on 12/04/2009 10:05:18 AM PST by Red Badger (Al Gore is the Bernie Madoff of environmentalism. He belongs in jail. - Unknown Blogger)
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To: dila813

Fire up those SUV’s, we aim to save the world.


20 posted on 12/04/2009 10:05:18 AM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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