Skip to comments.Huckabee is lying about cop killer's age and criminal record in Arkansas
Posted on 12/04/2009 11:06:29 AM PST by bigred08
Mike Huckabee is a liar. He granted clemency to a dangerous criminal, but wants us to believe everyone would have acted the same way. Huckabee's efforts to shift blame away from himself includes a total fabrication of Maurice Clemmons' extensive criminal history.
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Wow, heavy charges against Huckabee. I assume he will respond to these latest charges against him. It will be interesting to hear what Huckabee has to say.
Isn’t he a member of CFR? That tells me all I need to know about him.
Huckabee said the crimes were committed when the kid was 16, he was sentenced at 17. That doesn’t make him a liar.
If Huckabee would just come out and say that he made a mistake, then some credibility could be preserved.
Now, the man is exposed as a soft-on-crime liar.
Bummer, Huckleberry! Ya got bit by the TRUTH squad! Better put some ice on it... Oh, there’s not that much ice in the WORLD, is there??? Too bad, so sad. You’re one more statist RINO out of the way.
you need to go post this on TIR, if you haven’t already.
Lori will go postal!!
The one year age difference isn’t really the issue. It’s all the other things that Huckleberry lied about. The gun thing, the amount of felonies, etc. I am on pins and needles just waiting for a fake, good-ol’-boy, folksy cliche.
Other than exposing the truth, no.
Plus, if you actually read the entire article, you will see that this guy was very violent. Every time he was released from jail for a violent act, he went out and committed another violent act. He obviously did not learn from his mistakes. This shows that he was unable or unwilling to change.
Such reduced punishments should apply only in case of a really young child who clearly doesn't understand ,and I mean young like pre-school.And if a gun was used then that child never again be permitted to touch a gun.
And not worthy of commutation or clemency.
More from the article:
There were also three separate courtorom incidents in 1990 where Clemmons tried to use a weapon against a judge, threw a padlock at a bailiff, and tried to take a guard's pistol. A judge ordered Clemmons be placed in leg shackles because he felt Clemmons has threatened him. Clemmons also displayed very erratic behavior during the trial, mumbling loudly throughout the proceedings. He also made an obscene gesture toward one of the witnesses testifying against him.
The commutation by Huckabee of the sentence happened in 2000
Like that's a bad thing.
“I don't know a single person that can look me in the eye and tell me that if they had that same file in front of them they wouldn't believe that maybe 47 years was a more appropriate sentence for what he did as a minor.”
Forty-seven years might seem more appropriate if 47 years actually meant 47 years. It really meant 11 years, as it made him immediately eligible for parole and he was released a month later.
Huckabee obviously knew at the time that 108 years meant 25 to 108 years (he would have been eligible for parole in 2015 if Huckabee had not commuted his sentence) and “47 years” meant he would be released immediately, after only 11 years.
The guy driving the getaway car was also pardoned by Huckabee, cinvicted of a double murder during a holdup.
The guy driving the getaway car was also pardoned by Huckabee, convicted of a double murder during a holdup.
This reminds me of that Tom Cruise movie where they arrest people because they’ve seen the crimes they committed in the FUTURE!
The guilt is on the Criminal.
Otherwise, there should never be second chances!
I would say this shows a lack of good judgment and discernment on Huckabee’s part.
Huck is worse than the Duke. Horton only raped two women before he was arrested. Huck has freed two people who committed murder after their release. Wayne Dumond was the first. I can't believe Huck was ever a serious contender for the GOP nomination. The Dumond case alone simply puts the Horton parole in the shade.
“Less than two weeks later, Clemmons and an accomplice were arrested for two separate robberies on the same night. Clemmons robbed a woman in front of an Arkansas bar. Clemmons claimed he had a gun. The woman said, “Well, why don’t you just shoot?”. Clemmons punched her in the head and snatched her purse.
35 minutes later, Clemmons and his friend hit a man in the had and stole his $500 gold chain in front of a convenience store. They were also questioned about two other robberies and one attempted robbery that occurred the same night.”
Hmmm, sounds like a good guy to me, I say commute his sentence, what say you Governor?
Really, really. He IS an ordained minister AND he’s just been shown to be a liar. This is a COMMENTARY piece, as well as an informational, so the author is most surely entitled to chastise a liar who proclaims himself a minister of the Gospel.
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I’m not sure I saw any out and out lies in the article. However, a lot of what he said appears to be intentionally misleading, especially where he claims he commuted the sentence to 47 years (technically true, but effectively he ensured that Clemmons would be released very soon).
If instead of making excuses, Huckabee simply admitted he let his desire to show compassion cloud his judgment, causinig him to make a horrible mistake, that cost 4 lives, I’d be a lot more sympathetic. The deceptive, self-serving spin, and deflecting of blame makes me sick. It says a lot more to me about Huckabee’s character than the actual granting of clemency.
Always a safe assumption. ;)
I’m sure it was just stupidity, not because he’s a closet leftist.
Huckabee: All the proof u need that somehow a Bible-banger can also ABSOLUTELY be a total RINO.
I’ll vote for him for Cub Scout trooper leader and NOTHING else.
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Is there an outside chance you want to discourage people from visiting this site? Nice Try!! Next time try to confuse a less savy little old lady, because you're not foolin' me.
Yes, HuckaClemmons is a liar, “really”.
I agree about the bad judgement. Of course the next headline on the news will be “ Huckabee lets convict out of Prison on the Promise that he will kill at least 4 Police Officers within Ten Years” He did make a mistake. I wish I knew all the details, though, like why did the parole board recommend Clemmon’s release? How much pressure was put on Huckabee to grant clemency by the parole board? Why has no one kept Clemmons locked up the numerous times he’s been arrested since Huck granted him clemency.? Of course Huckabee is going to get all of the blame because he has the highest profile, and is a Christian, and his mistake probably bothers more than a lot of folks suspect. Probably the other people that are as responsible for this guys release as Huck ,or moreso, don’t give a rats ass.
Just more information to show us just how much of a peaceful fun loving guy Clemmons really was. How could Huckabee not want to let such a great guy back out on the streets? </sarcasm>
Just another Southern Talkin Slicky!
Being a Christian has nothing to do with it. As governor, the buck stopped at his desk. Dukakis took a drubbing over Horton, and all Horton did was rape two women after his release before being arrested. Huck is a repeat offender. He paroled Wayne Dumond, who killed two women after his release. Identity politics allowed Huck to remain a serious candidate despite the Dumond blunder:
The video's impact is not certain; Huckabee was already a long-shot candidate before the video was released, and continued to be very popular among social conservatives and southern Republicans generally, despite the fact that the South has most of the states with conservative criminal justice systems.Fortunately, unlike the Democrats, who made Dukakis their nominee, the GOP rejected Huck, who seems to have made a career of releasing people who murder after getting out of the joint.
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You want to take it otherwise, be my guest.
It’s worth adding something I heard on the Michael Medved Show yesterday.
Before Clemmons obtained his clemency, he was something less than a model prisoner. He was involved in acts of violence while in prison. Let’s place a heavy emphasis on the word “acts”.
Huckabee claimed to have read Clemmons’ entire record. I’d have to assume that record included his record while in prison. Maybe it didn’t.
But it stands to reason that huckabee should have taken a look at Clemmons’ conduct while in prison. At that point, he probably (or at least hopefully) would have said “This guy looks like a real POS. There won’t be any clemency order coming from me”.
And I’d also include the parole board as well. It was up to them to look at every aspect of Clemmons’ record BEFORE they considered clemency.
Would you've felt better about it if he was just another Northern Talkin Slicky instead?
Good people tend to see good in everyone. Huckabee probably should have just stayed a minister. The fact that he let too many prisoners out was probably based on trying to bring out the “good” in people .What he didn’t realise is that some folks just don’t have any good in them. The few people that think that he let those people go for some kind of personal gain are full of crap. There was nothing in it for him. Out of the 1000 or so that were let go I’ll be willing to bet that less than 50 ever voted after that. And there’s a good chance they voted democrat if they did.
Iam sure that due to Clemmon’s age, Huckabee was touched to see a life that young wasted. He made a mistake.
I do not support Huck for President. Personally I don’t think he has the leadership skills.
I wonder, though, if folks ought to be helping him over this instead of joining the MSM in attacking him. I don’t know......
The media probably would have spun it that way anyway. If Huck has no credibility now, the media still has less....
My impression is that the MSM isn't really attacking him - they're not using the kinds of loaded expressions you usually get when they're in persecution mode. There's also no full-court press* in which they investigate everything he's ever done, the way they went after Palin. They're treating this as an aberration - an unusual exception that shouldn't affect what they'd like to see as a general rule, paroles that are granted early and often. Conservatives are reading the news and slamming Huck for the facts in plain view - Huck has set free two people who killed after their release.
* I don't think, for instance, that the media have investigated whether the 1000 other people he paroled have since carried out felonies that - Willie Horton-style - did not involve killing people.
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No way. I use the latest Mozilla Firefox.
This is the nuttiest thing about the justice system. When one side reduces sentences to compensate for the other side, which increases sentences to compensate. At some point someone should realize that no one is accomplishing anything, except to make things more prone to error like the ones that occurred in this case after Huckabee's initial misguided clemency.
Just wanted to point out that the crimes committed by Clemons when he was a juvenile were robbery and assault. He hadn't murdered anyone until later.