Posted on 12/04/2009 11:19:01 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
LOL...not in the least. Simply that the needs of good order and discipline are critical to the military, and consequently some acts that civilians perceive as minor, inoffensive or trivial are taken much more seriously in the military, to the point that they do in fact, constitute criminal behavior.
LOL! I had the same sort of extreme satisfaction watching a CO of mine get relieved. Old Pig Face had it coming also.
On the other hand, I watched good sailors absolutely ruined for small stuff by someone who disliked them. Depended on the Division, Department, XO and CO. What someone in AS Div skated on, someone in M Div was keelhauled for.
Old Pig Face? I can only imagine. I seem to remember CO’s becoming d*ck’s with ears when I made Chief. Old Pig Face definitely brought a smile to my face. Thanks.
I’ve seen that too...IMHO, it’s not a flaw in the system, just the people working it. Civilians get rail-roaded in court too, but yeah....the military’s a small community and once you’re on somebody’s sh!t-list, it can be hard to get off it.
I wouldn’t say I was ruined, but it took me 10 years to make Chief and that’s where I stayed for the next ten. I think I took the Chief Petty Officer creed too much to heart. I’m looking at it now. It’s right above my monitor. “These privileges, these responsibilities, do not appear in print, they have no official standing, they cannot be referred to by name, number, or file. They exist because for over 200 years chiefs before you have freely accepted responsibility beyond the call of printed assignment, and have by their actions and by their performance demanded the respect of their seniors, as well as their juniors. I’ll never forget that day I put on those anchors.
Absolutely the people working it. Petty tyrants with a LOT of power. Thank goodness most senior military folks are good, honest and fair. The bad ones can make life hell though.
From my last 9 years I wouldn’t say most. 5 of the last 8 O’s I worked for meaning DIVO’s non LDO’s, DH’s and CO’s, not including XO’s were POS’s. Holy Cow too many acronyms. Earth to Me, come back to civilian life. : )
What’s up. You guys moved on to Tiger Woods and his daddy?
Even with all the BS, I do not regret the 12 years that I served. Although, there were times during my service that I thought I would regret it.
I’ve gotten past most of the lingo, with the exception of the verbal punctuation (cussing) when excited or angry.
Damn. I’m too F-up’D. That’s it. we’re done. Merry Christmas.
Only if they want to get shot.
I never heard it called that.
brownsfan? Me too. Since 1968. I feel for you. Yes they do deserve.
Concur.
Even if it doesn't, it's distracting, and that can be deadly on a warship. I want that young man's eyes glued to the radar screen, not watching some girl's chest.
In my 20 years in the Nav, that depended on who you were.
Rosi would not comment on the nature of the Williams' fraternization cases, but said that nine sailors received non-judicial punishment for fraternization. Five were male chief petty officers, he said, and four were female junior enlisted sailors: one first class petty officer, two second class petty officers and one third class petty officer.
Idiots. Old enough to know to keep their zippers up.
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