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Official Request byCongressmen to See Obama's Birth Certificate-Straw Which Breaks This Camel's Back
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Posted on 12/04/2009 4:47:27 PM PST by cycle of discernment

OFFICIAL REQUEST BY CONGRESSMEN TO SEE OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE WILL BE THE STRAW WHICH BREAKS THIS CAMEL’S BACK

Political analysis by John Charlton

Obama's presidential campaign was hailed for its forceful imagery, but after 11 months the public has come to understand the undisputed facts about him, don't fit the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

(Dec. 4, 2009) — Georgia’s representative in the U.S. House, Nathan Deal announced in early November that he and 10 House colleagues were going to sign a joint letter, asking Obama to publicly reveal his birth certificate,.

The simple enough question was rebuffed and ridiculed by the Main Stream Media, and even the Savannah Morning News, as if a birth certificate was some sort of private journal or diary of past affairs.

The mere fact that the liberals and progressives ridiculed Nathan Deal — whose only interest is to quiet the nation — shows that they have no substantive reason to oppose the request. It further shows that they know that Obama cannot oblige Deal and his co-signatories, for in Democratic circles nothing is a secret.

What will Obama say to Nathan Deal? The answer must come soon. Deal said that he was to send his letter after Thanksgiving. Any delay on the part of Barack Hussein Obama to oblige Deal, will only further erode his political influence in Washington, D.C..

Obama has been effectively checkmated by the concerted effort of public support, publicized lawsuits on the eligibility question, publicity campaigns such as those of World Net Daily and Charles Kerchner to put the issue in the face of liberals on a constant basis, and blogs and bloggers the world over.

If Obama obliges him, then the online image of a Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) provided by his campaign will be proven a forgery, according to the consensus of opinion of citizens who have studied the images posted on the net and found some images of the allegedly same document, contain a HI State seal and some do not.

If Obama does refuses, however, it will only further confirm that he has something to hide.

Palins remark that it is a valid issue and Ogden’s resignation as Deputy U.S. Attorney General in the same week, following the sending of Nathan Deal’s letter, appear to be diagnostic signs that the political establishment understands the risks and imminent crisis about to break. The publicity garnered by the testimony of the U.S. Marine, who goes by the nik, Race Bannon, only further tilt the Obama regime towards political implosion.

Even the pulse of Obama’s political support on the net tells the tale: a lull and quiet among them posting comments at opposition blogs is noticeable. There remain only the violent, the perverse and the somewhat mad to carry on the cheers of “Change,” which were the mind numbing drum beat of the Obama for American campaign, just 14 months ago.

The political momentum of the nation now follows diverse roads to the same destination, and the resulting fireworks are going to be much brighter and invigorating than those of any Fourth of July in many a year!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; article2section1; bho44; birthcertficate; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; deal; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; nathandeal; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamacrimes; obamafamily; obamatruth; obamatruthfile; passport; usurper
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To: Electric Graffiti
Yes, the fact that Mark was discussing this really did raise my eyebrow.

I was shocked to hear a mainstream talk show host like Mark even acknowledge the issue, let alone discuss it for 5 minutes!!!!!!!!

151 posted on 12/05/2009 6:21:36 AM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: cycle of discernment

from link

Obama's presidential campaign was hailed for its forceful imagery, but after 11 months the public has come to understand the undisputed facts about him, don't fit the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

152 posted on 12/05/2009 6:43:02 AM PST by opentalk
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To: F15Eagle

Yes, and I think i read that Frank Marshall Davis even called the 14 year old girl he and wifey supposedly had the 3 way with, “Anne” or “Ann” in his book...have you heard that?

i’m starting to think this the true scenario..born in Hawaii before Hawaii was a state..older than he claims.


153 posted on 12/05/2009 6:50:33 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

THE MAN WHO DESPISES AMERICA


THE MODERN AMERICAN DECLARATION OF LIBERTY - WE MUST TAKE AMERICA BACK!

154 posted on 12/05/2009 7:23:07 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: x_plus_one
Birthers and other loons will never have the respect of the mainstream media. /s

I can think of few things that would dismay me more that having the respect of that crowd.

155 posted on 12/05/2009 7:57:40 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 318 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: cycle of discernment
“It further shows that they know that Obama cannot oblige Deal and his co-signatories, for in Democratic circles nothing is a secret. “

I remember a month before Jim McGreavy came out of the closet, a Jersey Dem told me the gov was gay. Out of the blue. It was weird. I didn't believe him.

So yes, they know whats going on. They know he cant produce a BC and not get impeached. As the economy wallows in the mud, more people will start to demand to know what is on his bc.

156 posted on 12/05/2009 8:08:06 AM PST by PA-RIVER (Don't blame me. I voted for the American guy.)
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To: null and void

I think the point is that he clearly has something that he is deliberately hiding from the American people. We deserve to know what it is.


157 posted on 12/05/2009 8:21:28 AM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: killermosquito

Yeah. And it ain’t a little foible. How bad would something about you need to be for you to spend over a $1,000,000 to cover it up?

My bet?

As well as not being an NBC, he’s a hermaphrodite...


158 posted on 12/05/2009 8:43:23 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 318 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: r9etb
“Nope, not this time. If there's nothing of interest about his BC, the only effect will be to make the people who shouted so loudly about it, look silly.”

I don't know. It just pisses me off that he can't even produce a basic document. Something so simple is so difficult for him. How freaking hard is it to produce a BC? Sheesh, what a moron for making the production of a BC into a mountain of national anxiety. Can you believe it? This moron has not produced a simple document that hundreds of millions of his fellow Americans can produce in a snap. But with this "Global Citizen", we have to have a tiresome, wasteful, national debate about such a simple requirement. What a freakazoid! His arrogance is infuriating bordering on intolerable.

159 posted on 12/05/2009 9:20:14 AM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: CedarDave
Not necessarily. Some state assistance programs in Hawaii require an original birth certificate (not a COLB) to prove eligibility.

Not true.

160 posted on 12/05/2009 9:21:36 AM PST by curiosity
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To: Chgogal
I don't know. It just pisses me off that he can't even produce a basic document.

It does me, too.... I just don't think that if he finally does produce a legitimate BC, the only people it will hurt will be the ones who are making such a fuss about it.

161 posted on 12/05/2009 9:31:08 AM PST by r9etb
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To: curiosity
Obama will simply say the COLB is sufficient to prove his place of birth in any court of law (which it is), and that will be the end of it.

Under the law in 1961, merely being born in Hawaii is not enough if the father is a foreign national able to confer citizenship of his home country, and the mother has not lived in the US long enough past the age of majority to confer US citizenship.

If the appropriate statute is applied, (that in effect at the time of his birth), the COLB would be prima facie evidence he is not a Natural Born Citizen, which is the Constitutional requirement.

The anchor baby concept did not come until later.

In addition, if he was made citizen of Indonesia while his mother was married to Soetoro, he might choose to become an American Citizen later, but that would not fulfil the Natural Born Citizen requirement, either.

Furthermore, and the reason for wanting to see his admissions records, he may have applied as a foreign (Indonesian) student in order to take advantage of programs offered for college admission.

Again, the pertinent documents are missing or have not been produced.

Keep in mind that passport records which may have indicated that Obama had claimed other than US citizenship may have been compromised, and that the person suspected of (illegally) researching them was found murdered.

The entire situation promotes more questions than answers, the answers could be readily made available by a specific individual who ran for office on "Transparency", as well as "Hope and Change", but those documents which could dispel the doubts have not been forthcoming?

Why?

Really, while most of us follow the issue, it is only a very small fraction of our day. We don't spend our time cripplingly obscessed with it, we follow other issues, work, play, have time with our families, but understand fully that this country is only headed deeper into a Constitutional crisis with every Socialist policy, every grant, every disbursement of taxpayer money, every dime of deficit which may have been signed off on by someone who cannot legally hold the office.

If you do not want to know what, despite the horrible consequences most of us forsee, is legal and legitimate policy out there (albeit deeply flawed) and what is, in effect, Constitutionally void, then you apparently either do not understand the scope of the potential crisis, or do not care.

162 posted on 12/05/2009 10:07:47 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
First the Global Warming Scam, and now this...

Don't forget the ACORNs dropping...and unaccounted for stimulus funds...

163 posted on 12/05/2009 10:18:18 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rabidralph; RaceBannon

LOL - only Marines have the guts to go where Angels (& mere mortals) fear to tread, heheh.


164 posted on 12/05/2009 10:42:18 AM PST by RebelTex (FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT! AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY!)
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To: cycle of discernment

This all leads to the question of how can Obama be an Article II “natural born Citizen” if he was at birth both a U.S. citizen (assuming he was born in the U.S.) and a British citizen which alone disqualifies him from having that status? But to make matters worse, Obama continues to be a British citizen at a time that he is currently the President of the United States. Can we reasonably conclude that the Founding Fathers, who had just fought a war with Great Britain and who did not want a foreigner to occupy the Office of President, would have allowed a British citizen born after 1789, who carries that status not only from birth but also to the time he occupies the Office, to be President of the United States and Commander in Chief of its Military? Another question is how can a would-be President and Commander in Chief of the Military with current dual citizenship obtain a security clearance which he should have to access classified U.S. government information needed by him to carry out the sensitive functions of that Office?


165 posted on 12/05/2009 11:28:17 AM PST by danamco
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Well, well, lookie here, Buck is back and in the pinging business!

Is your time of professed "silence" up now and will the Aporn cash checks resume again??

See post # 165 that answers all your faked previous posts!!!

166 posted on 12/05/2009 11:41:21 AM PST by danamco
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To: Frantzie

The pests have called up!!!


167 posted on 12/05/2009 11:42:33 AM PST by danamco
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To: cycle of discernment
OFFICIAL REQUEST BY CONGRESSMEN TO SEE OBAMA’S BIRTH

Kinda late for that, isn't it. Besides, it was probably pretty gross.

168 posted on 12/05/2009 11:42:48 AM PST by gitmo (FR vs DU: n4mage vs DUmage)
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To: El Sordo

See post # 165, that is what is relevant!!!


169 posted on 12/05/2009 11:48:30 AM PST by danamco
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To: Red Steel
And BTW, those guys you ping are trolls.

That is what he ALWAYS does!!!

170 posted on 12/05/2009 11:53:43 AM PST by danamco
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To: cycle of discernment

Hadn’t heard that - but something must be out of kilter - no sane reason to dodge this, this long.


171 posted on 12/05/2009 11:56:10 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
And I didn’t summon a cheering squad to disrupt discussion.

You have been outed as usual to call up your defense squad to shield you and disrupt, orders from APORN or the W.H basement!!!

172 posted on 12/05/2009 11:59:27 AM PST by danamco
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To: null and void

Bingo.

Yeah, like conservatives are going to win over the MSM that is openly covering for zer0.


173 posted on 12/05/2009 12:01:09 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: cycle of discernment
TO SEE OBAMA’S BIRTH

Eeeeew, gross!

174 posted on 12/05/2009 12:02:15 PM PST by humblegunner (™)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I’ve had more productive and extremely polite exchanges with libtards at other sites on this issue than with this group.

So WHY don't you just leave us alone and go back to your lib friends and be more productive there, we won't stop you from leaving us!!!

175 posted on 12/05/2009 12:03:41 PM PST by danamco
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To: Red Steel
Troll Ping.

Define "troll" and your ability to make that determination.

176 posted on 12/05/2009 12:04:14 PM PST by humblegunner (™)
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To: danamco; BuckeyeTexan
You have been outed as usual to call up your defense squad to shield you and disrupt, orders from APORN or the W.H basement!!!

You singlehandedly take idiocy to new and impressive levels.

Give yourself a cookie.

177 posted on 12/05/2009 12:06:56 PM PST by humblegunner (™)
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To: danamco

It takes you a little while to catch up, doesn’t it? Welcome aboard.


178 posted on 12/05/2009 12:08:20 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Why are you suddenly changing subject on this thread???


179 posted on 12/05/2009 12:18:52 PM PST by danamco
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To: Red Steel

That is a “start” for Mark, maybe he thinks he better be on Sarah’s team than continued to be silenced by the upper crust at Clear Channel/Premier???


180 posted on 12/05/2009 12:27:04 PM PST by danamco
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To: Sibre Fan
Cheney used the exact same words, in the exact same order, in 2009 as he did in 2005.

Not long ago, I seem to remember someone posting a link to a YouTube video, that there were some differences in the counting of electoral votes.

181 posted on 12/05/2009 12:39:01 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
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To: humblegunner
Define "troll" and your ability to make that determination.

So what does Buckeye Tx usually say when he pings that list? A 'whack-a-mole thread' ping. So who are the moles he whacks? The posters who believe Obama is lying about his citizenship status - that's who.

And the people on that troll ping list are the trolls who oppose us for questioning Obama's natural born citizenship status or to where he was born. It's a fair question to ask Obama. These same people on that list incessantly deny the question of Obama's legitimacy, attempt to mitigate the issue, and use derision to mock the issue and supportive posters.

Who are these posters who make it their job to troll threads that question Obama's natural born citizenship status and who question his birth place? They are most likely, Democrats, Obots, super Rinos, Socialists, Communists, and other people who think they will profit in some way in Obama's presidency.

So who are you humblegunner?

182 posted on 12/05/2009 12:39:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: IrishPennant; cycle of discernment; null and void; ExTexasRedhead

183 posted on 12/05/2009 12:44:46 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: danamco

Maybe Levin will bring up the issue more often. I think he will if Palin gets attacked some more by the left on the issue.


184 posted on 12/05/2009 12:45:45 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Who are these posters who make it their job to troll threads that question Obama's natural born citizenship status and who question his birth place?

I believe that for some it is quite literally a job.

What price your soul? They've settled on theirs.

185 posted on 12/05/2009 12:50:32 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 318 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Canedawg
The COLB posted on the www is from 2007.

The question is, why did BO have the need to request a copy of it 46 years after he was born? What did the BC that he must have previously used to apply for a passport, get a driver's license, etc. say?

186 posted on 12/05/2009 12:51:41 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
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To: null and void

NS is my choice. He probably does it for pennies or for free.


187 posted on 12/05/2009 12:55:39 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
I still would be curious to see the document when he legally changed his name from Soetoro to obama.

Bingo!

188 posted on 12/05/2009 1:01:20 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
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To: Red Steel
So who are the moles he whacks?

Mostly Orly Taitz. She's a lunatic.

And the people on that troll ping list are the trolls who oppose us

I think they mostly oppose Orly Taitz. She's a lunatic.

Who are these posters who make it their job to troll threads

I asked you to define "troll" and you have not. And Orly Taitz is a lunatic.

They are most likely, Democrats, Obots, super Rinos, Socialists, Communists, and other people who think they will profit in some way in Obama's presidency.

You assign many qualities to anyone who thinks Orly Taitz is a lunatic.

So who are you humblegunner?

One who recognizes Orly Taitz as a lunatic.

189 posted on 12/05/2009 1:02:14 PM PST by humblegunner (™)
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To: PhilDragoo

Why does Obama’s official myspace page have his age as having been born in 1957 instead of 1961? Why has it been left up?

Is this the real smoking gun..well and plus the fact that his actual father is Frank Marshall Davis, black american communist that dallied with the teenage daughter of his pot smoking pal and fellow communist Mr Dunham?

Why has this NOT been changed on that myspace page.... showing him born BEFORE Hawaii was a state in 1959?? very odd.


190 posted on 12/05/2009 1:04:40 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: Red Steel; humblegunner

Don’t flatter yourself, Red. “Whack-a-mole” is reserved for Orly Taitz and ONLY Orly Taitz.


191 posted on 12/05/2009 1:07:31 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Red Steel; smokingfrog

I was surprised to hear Levin mention the BC the other day, just as I was disappointed he hadnt mentioned it until this week.

He obviously brought it up in the context of Sarah posting about it, and he made his position clear: he thinks Obozo is a citizen but doesnt understand why he just doesnt produce the darn BC.

That is the most intelligent position for someone in Mark’s position to take. It is just speculative to say the BC says something when we havent seen it- just produce it and let the chips fall where they may.

I am more entertained to hear Jim Quinn state outright that “we have elected the enemy” and that obozo is a Kenyan, but Levin needs to tread a little more carefully, for obvious reasons.

The Left can not wait to take him down if he is wrong. They hate him so much they can’t even speak his name or review his book. It’s bizarre- they go after Rush and Hannity and Palin, but they are so afraid of TGO they don’t even speak his name.


192 posted on 12/05/2009 1:09:30 PM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: humblegunner
I think they mostly oppose Orly Taitz. She's a lunatic.

Hardly.

Attacking the eccentric Orly Taitz is really thinly veiled cover on the issue; a convenient cover to hide the true agenda.

193 posted on 12/05/2009 1:11:41 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: danamco
Why are you suddenly changing subject on this thread???

Have you spoken to your doctor about the voices you're hearing?

194 posted on 12/05/2009 1:19:10 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: no one in particular

Projection.


195 posted on 12/05/2009 1:19:41 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 318 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Red Steel
Attacking the eccentric Orly Taitz is really thinly veiled cover on the issue; a convenient cover to hide the true agenda.

Right. How about this:

The lunatic Taitz was hired by Obama to pursue the BC issue
in a bumbling incompetent way in order to put a clown's face on the whole thing.

There's your conspiracy, Sunshine.

196 posted on 12/05/2009 1:23:27 PM PST by humblegunner (™)
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To: humblegunner

Or maybe she’s just an eccentric who makes mistakes, Sunshine.


197 posted on 12/05/2009 1:27:20 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: humblegunner

So you agree that team 0bama hires people to hide his agenda and virtually everything about his past?


198 posted on 12/05/2009 1:27:54 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 318 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: x_plus_one

What kind of respect would YOU like to have from a corrupt MSM & SRM???


199 posted on 12/05/2009 1:41:32 PM PST by danamco
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To: wintertime

I agree, and here locally we have another blowhard Schnitt who has blocked e-mail access to anyone who brings up Barry’s eligibility issue and sealed records!!!


200 posted on 12/05/2009 1:44:00 PM PST by danamco
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