Posted on 12/04/2009 4:47:27 PM PST by cycle of discernment
OFFICIAL REQUEST BY CONGRESSMEN TO SEE OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE WILL BE THE STRAW WHICH BREAKS THIS CAMEL’S BACK
Political analysis by John Charlton
Obama's presidential campaign was hailed for its forceful imagery, but after 11 months the public has come to understand the undisputed facts about him, don't fit the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.
(Dec. 4, 2009) — Georgia’s representative in the U.S. House, Nathan Deal announced in early November that he and 10 House colleagues were going to sign a joint letter, asking Obama to publicly reveal his birth certificate,.
The simple enough question was rebuffed and ridiculed by the Main Stream Media, and even the Savannah Morning News, as if a birth certificate was some sort of private journal or diary of past affairs.
The mere fact that the liberals and progressives ridiculed Nathan Deal — whose only interest is to quiet the nation — shows that they have no substantive reason to oppose the request. It further shows that they know that Obama cannot oblige Deal and his co-signatories, for in Democratic circles nothing is a secret.
What will Obama say to Nathan Deal? The answer must come soon. Deal said that he was to send his letter after Thanksgiving. Any delay on the part of Barack Hussein Obama to oblige Deal, will only further erode his political influence in Washington, D.C..
Obama has been effectively checkmated by the concerted effort of public support, publicized lawsuits on the eligibility question, publicity campaigns such as those of World Net Daily and Charles Kerchner to put the issue in the face of liberals on a constant basis, and blogs and bloggers the world over.
If Obama obliges him, then the online image of a Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) provided by his campaign will be proven a forgery, according to the consensus of opinion of citizens who have studied the images posted on the net and found some images of the allegedly same document, contain a HI State seal and some do not.
If Obama does refuses, however, it will only further confirm that he has something to hide.
Palins remark that it is a valid issue and Ogden’s resignation as Deputy U.S. Attorney General in the same week, following the sending of Nathan Deal’s letter, appear to be diagnostic signs that the political establishment understands the risks and imminent crisis about to break. The publicity garnered by the testimony of the U.S. Marine, who goes by the nik, Race Bannon, only further tilt the Obama regime towards political implosion.
Even the pulse of Obama’s political support on the net tells the tale: a lull and quiet among them posting comments at opposition blogs is noticeable. There remain only the violent, the perverse and the somewhat mad to carry on the cheers of “Change,” which were the mind numbing drum beat of the Obama for American campaign, just 14 months ago.
The political momentum of the nation now follows diverse roads to the same destination, and the resulting fireworks are going to be much brighter and invigorating than those of any Fourth of July in many a year!
A handful of newspaper articles do not constitute legal documentation. So long as the state of Hawaii does not dispute Obama’s claim that he was born there, this stuff is meaningless.
I am sure he could, but don’t need to, is getting the pay check from the basement of the W.H. via Aporn as an Alinsky stooge!!!
You are absolutely right, I have not denied that!
But here is the dirty little secret you ought to know, that your usurper in the W.H. TODAY still is a British citizen, yes, as he himself proclaim a World citizen, because of the BNA he is also a E.U. citizen, hello!!!
Must we have kippers for breakfast?
As to your startling news, it's not dirty, not exactly correct, and the truth actually in it is not a secret to anyone paying attention.
“The Rocky Mountain News did in fact run an online article asserting that Barack Obama holds both American and Kenyan citizenship. The article was incorrect, and the paper removed the item from the article and ran a correction. The paper's editor, John Temple, formally apologized for the error in an Aug. 15, 2007, column. Neither the correction nor the apology has prevented the column from circulating across the Internet as part of the latest set of baseless rumors that Obama is ineligible to run for president.
There was a grain of truth to what the Rocky Mountain News reported, though understanding why requires a brief history lesson.
When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children:
British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.
In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.
Obama’s British citizenship was short-lived. On Dec. 12, 1963, Kenya formally gained its independence from the United Kingdom. Chapter VI, Section 87 of the Kenyan Constitution specifies that:
1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963...
2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall, if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1), become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963.
As a citizen of the UKC who was born in Kenya, Obama’s father automatically received Kenyan citizenship via subsection (1). So given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UKC status at birth and given that Obama’s father became a Kenyan citizen via subsection (1), it follows that Obama did in fact have Kenyan citizenship after 1963. So The Rocky Mountain News was at least partially correct.
But the paper failed to note that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 23, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1984."
But if you do wind up saving me from kippers for breakfast, I suppose I would be grateful.
We deal with liberal posters who cannot think logical, or they are without personal integrity by being selfish becuase Obama wants to bring about material wealth transfers, which they want to benefit.
Case in point. Obama and his supporters have been caught in hundreds of lies if not thousands over the last two years that can be confirmed.
Logic: Obama lies all the time probably everyday, therefore, he should not be believed in anything he says. This same logical should and are applied to Obama’s origins. Obama says he was born in Hawaii but evidence and Obama’s behavior say otherwise. However, the troll posters here say Obama was born in Hawaii without equivocation or deny the issue has any meaning - a complete logical disconnect.
As Mr. Spock would say: “Fascinating.”
You pick and choose which “facts” you want to believe about Obama.
Is Obama telling the truth or is it another lie he is perpetrating on the public?
Trying to figure out Obama’s origins is without a doubt a reasonable question.
At this point, no matter what he produces, the Birthers are going to pronounce it a forgery or find some new ridiculous conspiracy line to parrot. Heck, some of you even want his baptism records. Birthers believe this because they want Obama out as President so bad that rationality no longer matters.
There's evidence that Obama's Hawaiian COLB is a forgery; that COLB printout is not good enough. His typed long form birth certificate would help alleviate this controversy. And if Obama's COLB was not a forgery, why has he not submitted it to any court as proof? In fact, he has done everything in his power to the contrary. If Obama received his birth certificate because a witness said Obama was born in the state would paint him into another lie, and would make Fukino's past statement supporting Obama very dubious.
At this point, no matter what he produces, the Birthers are going to pronounce it a forgery or find some new ridiculous conspiracy line to parrot. Heck, some of you even want his baptism records. Birthers believe this because they want Obama out as President so bad that rationality no longer matters.
After-Birthers swallow his BS without question. Last year After-Birthers were saying Obama would whip out the proof that he was born in Hawaii which would 'smear' conservatives propelling him to new heights in popularity. I'm still waiting... In the mean time, Obama's poll numbers are falling faster than Jesse Jackson going after a new cooperate shakedown. Obama's poll numbers will be in the 30s by early next year.
There is no evidence, just the wild speculations of people who haven't even seen the real thing. States issue COLBs all the time. I got one for a form three months ago.
“And if Obama’s COLB was not a forgery, why has he not submitted it to any court as proof?”
As so many others have noted, no court has asked him to do this. Do you show up in court to provide documents you haven't been asked for? Especially if you believe you posted a perfectly legal document answering this question some time ago.
“If Obama received his birth certificate because a witness said Obama was born in the state would paint him into another lie, and would make Fukino’s past statement supporting Obama very dubious.”
Whatever it says, the state of Hawaii isn't disputing it because they are satisifed with the conclusion in their database that is printed out upon request, namely that he was born in Hawaii. Absent a time machine, that's going to be hard to meaningfully dispute.
“After-Birthers swallow his BS without question. Last year After-Birthers were saying Obama would whip out the proof that he was born in Hawaii which would ‘smear’ conservatives propelling him to new heights in popularity.”
I never said that. I do think all this carrying on makes conservatives look foolish. If Obama ever thinks about this at all, he probably just thinks something like this: “Wow. I got a COLB and posted it for everyone to see, now they want my grade school and baptism records. What a bunch of loons.”
“Obama’s poll numbers will be in the 30s by early next year.”
That may or may not be true. It's got nothing to do with his birth certificate.
I know.
As so many others have noted, no court has asked him to do this. Do you show up in court to provide documents you haven't been asked for? Especially if you believe you posted a perfectly legal document answering this question some time ago.
No speculation that Obama has not submitted it as proof to any court. The courts have not let the merits of the case go forward and who are hiding behind the appearance of the standing. Leo Donofrio may break the deadlock litigating for the put out of work Chrysler dealerships as they do have standing, which the court will have a hard time avoiding the case.
Anyone can post a document online and say it's an official document doesn't mean it is. Hawaii has refused to comment on Obama's online COLB. Authenticity is best confirmed by the issuing authority and not because supporters vouch for it.
You: That may or may not be true. It's got nothing to do with his birth certificate.
After-Birthers thought or still think it would effect Obama's poll number if he "discredited conservatives" by showing unequivocal proof about his birth in Hawaii. As of now, he has not proven it.
I never said you did. It appears you identify yourself as an After-birther. What Obama thinks about is how do I fool them today and tomorrow. The real loon occupies the White House.
Yeah I noticed that. You almost completely write off the State of Washington, add to that the academia - well just FLUSH IT!! I mean, the guy/gal is beyond PATHETIC. But you have to give them some credit for stamina. Something along the lines of “Grover” from Sesame Street. “I might be small but I’m wirey”!! LOL Sheesh CO
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1984."
You should be too OLD of side-stepping, but as usual you do, like "your" ballet dancer Rahm Emanuel!!
You forget that after loosing Kenyan citizenship he became a British Commonwealth citizen forever including World citizen from his membership of E.U. Please read it all from Apuzzo's site: http://puzo1.blogspot.com/
No tap-dancing please!!!
What an absurd waste of time and oxygen.
Members of Congress have every right to challenge a President-Elect on this issue. That right is in the Constitution.
When the day, and the venue, to issue this challenge arose these Members were silent. Then, they voted "aye" on a resolution to confirm the election of Barack Hussein Obama as President.
Now, they should shut up. There moment came, and went, on January 6, 2009.
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