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To: Red Steel
Then what?

Then it will be up to the birthers to prove that the witness committed fraud, which they won't be able to do.

But it won't come to that. At most, Obama will simply let the Congressman examine physical copy of the same COLB document that was photographed on Factcheck, and the Congressman will say he is satisfied.

In the very unlikely event the Congressman says he wants to see the long form, Obama will simply say the COLB is sufficient to prove his place of birth in any court of law (which it is), and that will be the end of it.

84 posted on 12/04/2009 6:11:41 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Then it will be up to the birthers to prove that the witness committed fraud, which they won't be able to do.

But it would be easy to prove Obama as a fraud that he could not spin his rear-end out of if he was not born in a Hawaiian hospital. What's that hospital's name? Queens or was that Kapi'olani? LoL!

But it won't come to that. At most, Obama will simply let the Congressman examine physical copy of the same COLB document that was photographed on Factcheck, and the Congressman will say he is satisfied.

Oh, that fraudulent document that Hawaii has refused to verify as authentic. That may fool the public who have an IQ less than 70.

In the very unlikely event the Congressman says he wants to see the long form, Obama will simply say the COLB is sufficient to prove his place of birth in any court of law (which it is), and that will be the end of it.

That Congressman would have an IQ less than 70 or would think that you do.

101 posted on 12/04/2009 6:33:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: curiosity
Obama will simply say the COLB is sufficient to prove his place of birth in any court of law (which it is), and that will be the end of it.

Won't get you a passport after 9/11. And any BC document would be traceable in records. You cannot just print a BC and take it to court. There lies Obama's problem.

103 posted on 12/04/2009 6:35:38 PM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: curiosity
In the very unlikely event the Congressman says he wants to see the long form, Obama will simply say the COLB is sufficient to prove his place of birth in any court of law (which it is), and that will be the end of it.

Not necessarily. Some state assistance programs in Hawaii require an original birth certificate (not a COLB) to prove eligibility.

112 posted on 12/04/2009 6:59:45 PM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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To: curiosity
Obama will simply say the COLB is sufficient to prove his place of birth in any court of law (which it is), and that will be the end of it.

Under the law in 1961, merely being born in Hawaii is not enough if the father is a foreign national able to confer citizenship of his home country, and the mother has not lived in the US long enough past the age of majority to confer US citizenship.

If the appropriate statute is applied, (that in effect at the time of his birth), the COLB would be prima facie evidence he is not a Natural Born Citizen, which is the Constitutional requirement.

The anchor baby concept did not come until later.

In addition, if he was made citizen of Indonesia while his mother was married to Soetoro, he might choose to become an American Citizen later, but that would not fulfil the Natural Born Citizen requirement, either.

Furthermore, and the reason for wanting to see his admissions records, he may have applied as a foreign (Indonesian) student in order to take advantage of programs offered for college admission.

Again, the pertinent documents are missing or have not been produced.

Keep in mind that passport records which may have indicated that Obama had claimed other than US citizenship may have been compromised, and that the person suspected of (illegally) researching them was found murdered.

The entire situation promotes more questions than answers, the answers could be readily made available by a specific individual who ran for office on "Transparency", as well as "Hope and Change", but those documents which could dispel the doubts have not been forthcoming?

Why?

Really, while most of us follow the issue, it is only a very small fraction of our day. We don't spend our time cripplingly obscessed with it, we follow other issues, work, play, have time with our families, but understand fully that this country is only headed deeper into a Constitutional crisis with every Socialist policy, every grant, every disbursement of taxpayer money, every dime of deficit which may have been signed off on by someone who cannot legally hold the office.

If you do not want to know what, despite the horrible consequences most of us forsee, is legal and legitimate policy out there (albeit deeply flawed) and what is, in effect, Constitutionally void, then you apparently either do not understand the scope of the potential crisis, or do not care.

162 posted on 12/05/2009 10:07:47 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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