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KTVU Learns Of New Problems That Could Add Costs And Delays To New Bay Bridge Span
KTVU-2 Oakland ^ | 12/4/9

Posted on 12/04/2009 11:33:20 PM PST by SmithL

OAKLAND -- KTVU News has learned a key section of that bridge has been delayed again and Caltrans now is bracing for a new cost over-run in the tens of millions of dollars.

The history of the new Bay Bridge has been a troubled one from the time the state decided to replace the old eastern span after the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake.

The original price tag of a little more than $1 billion has exploded into more than $6 billion along with numerous delays.

Now Channel 2 News has learned that next Wednesday, state and local transportation officials are set to announce a new round of potentially big delays and cost overruns.

Instead of opening all the westbound lanes to San Francisco on the new bridge by December 2012, engineers now say the opening will be delayed by at least six months. What's more, the delay will cost $50 to $100 million.

Officials involved with the bridge project told us the root of the problem lies on the docks of Shanghai, China.

Caltrans is relying on a Chinese manufacturer to fabricate the steel for the new bridge.

(Excerpt) Read more at ktvu.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: baybridge; chinese; outsourcing; yourtaxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 12/04/2009 11:33:21 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
The problem? The welds. Caltrans, which normally inspects about 20 per cent of a project's welds has found so many problems it now is inspecting 80 per cent before accepting the finished product.

One would think that this would be the producer's problem if there were properly written contracts.

2 posted on 12/04/2009 11:37:05 PM PST by glorgau
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To: SmithL
My Grandfather worked on both the Golden Gate and Bay Bridges as a riveter back in the day. I still have one of his tools--a super long crescent wrench with a long spike tail for poking out rivet bolts.

He was on the bridge (GG) the day several men fell to their death. Went out drinking to commiserate or whatever and grandma was beside herself because he didn't come home that night and she thought he among the dead... What a time...

3 posted on 12/04/2009 11:38:12 PM PST by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: abigkahuna
The original bridge took 3 years to build. It cost 1.18 billion in 2008 dollars (77 million in 1936) according to The Inflation Calculator
4 posted on 12/04/2009 11:45:40 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: SmithL

OMG!!! It’s close enough for government work, right??? (spit!)


5 posted on 12/04/2009 11:48:43 PM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: glorgau

Wondering how much they’re “saving” on cheap Chinese welders.


6 posted on 12/05/2009 4:32:16 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SmithL
In the annals of modern construction this may be the F’ed up project ever.
7 posted on 12/05/2009 4:35:52 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: SmithL

The ultimate bridge to nowhere.. SF


8 posted on 12/05/2009 9:41:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Not even close. That would be The Big Dig in Boston.


9 posted on 12/05/2009 12:06:25 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

At the very least it is the west Coast version of the big dig. Although the big dig was a major fiasco.


10 posted on 12/05/2009 1:30:56 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Major fiasco” would be an understatement. I believe the costs for it have run well beyond $20 billion (it was initially believed to cost only $2 billion or so). President Reagan vetoed that fiasco in the ‘80s as “too expensive”, but the Dems overrode his veto.


11 posted on 12/05/2009 1:54:07 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: SmithL


That meant on top of the $5.4 billion Caltrans said it knew it needed,
almost five times the original estimate, the legislature also put
aside almost $1 billion more.
That is considered an extraordinary amount for any project.

Not in The Bankrupt State of California.

Maybe five years ago I gave my cousin from Texas a tour of the UCLA
campus.
He was stunned by the amount of ongoing construction projects,
including (IIRC) The Nanotechnology Center.
I told him that normal economics don’t apply in California!


12 posted on 12/05/2009 2:27:36 PM PST by VOA (I)
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To: SmithL

The Bay Bridge goes to San Francisco and therefore a Bridge to Nowhere.

An earthquake will destroy the city and expenditures on the bridge is money wasted


13 posted on 12/05/2009 2:39:55 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: glorgau
One would think that this would be the producer's problem if there were properly written contracts.

Actually, it's Arnold's problem. One of the first things he did as governor was take Bechtel off the job to "save money." Then he forced them to GIVE 35,000 engineering hours worth of drawings to Kiewitt, which is partially owned by Arnold's good buddy Warren Buffet. Of course, in the changeover, there were delays sufficient to make up the difference but who cares? There's money to be made!

14 posted on 12/06/2009 9:24:26 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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