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Sea Is Swallowing Alaskan Town
CNN via AOL ^ | December 4, 2009 | John D. Sutter

Posted on 12/05/2009 6:10:37 AM PST by gusopol3

Shishmaref, Alaska (Dec. 3) -- When the arctic winds howl and angry waves pummel the shore of this Inupiat Eskimo village, Shelton and Clara Kokeok fear that their house, already at the edge of the Earth, finally may plunge into the gray sea below. "The land is going away," said Shelton Kokeok, 65, whose home is on the tip of a bluff that's been melting in part because of climate change. "I think it's going to vanish one of these days."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; scaretactics
Scare tactics anyone ?
1 posted on 12/05/2009 6:10:37 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

Movement of he Tectonic Plates makes coast rise and fall.
Erosion has been occurring since the earth existed.
Climate change is part of nature.

To conclude that man had anything to do is hogwash!


2 posted on 12/05/2009 6:13:27 AM PST by PALIN SMITH (Show them our respectable contempt!)
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To: gusopol3
Shelton Kokeok, 65, whose home is on the tip of a bluff that's been melting in part because of climate change.

Assuming he could prove the climate change, I wonder what percentage is due to that and what is due to other processes like natural erosion, sinking land etc.
3 posted on 12/05/2009 6:14:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: gusopol3

Heres an idea, MOVE THE Village.


4 posted on 12/05/2009 6:16:20 AM PST by omega4179 (0 is an embarrassment to us all.)
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To: cripplecreek

They had a lot of people at the New Jersey shore convinced that cool ocean temps this summer were due to melting of the polar ice cap.


5 posted on 12/05/2009 6:16:36 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3
You can build a barrier to protect the shore...But, before you do, you'll need to get a permit and submit several reports to the US Gov including EPA.

Or you could move your hut. I know...Will the USA Gov pay for your move??

6 posted on 12/05/2009 6:17:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: gusopol3

"I told you not to move the shack closer to the fishing spot!"

7 posted on 12/05/2009 6:17:42 AM PST by IbJensen (Merry Christmas to everyone, especially the ACLU)
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To: gusopol3

“Permafrost once helped anchor the town, but global warming is melting it, making the ground less stable.”

Uhhhh....seems to me that periods of THAW would be when permafrost is prolific (*NOT* during freeze, unless permafrost is some sort of magic vegetation that only grows when frozen, LOL)


8 posted on 12/05/2009 6:18:10 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: gusopol3
I've noticed a number of alarmist stories for about the last 4 weeks. In particular the AP has been pushing them.

The new claim is that this decade has seen record warming even though for years it's actually been cooling.

I think the so called scientists moved more of their their temperature gauges to airport runways and air conditioner exhausts in order to get the temp readings they want in time for Copenhagen.

9 posted on 12/05/2009 6:18:33 AM PST by NEPA (Give me liberty, not debt)
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To: PALIN SMITH
Movement of he Tectonic Plates makes coast rise and fall. Erosion has been occurring since the earth existed. Climate change is part of nature.

To conclude that man had anything to do is hogwash!

The Lame Stream Media are experts at washing hogs!

10 posted on 12/05/2009 6:19:01 AM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: IbJensen

This is a picture of the structure in question. Notice the piles of rocks to the right and the fact that the water in the front is not part of the ocean.


11 posted on 12/05/2009 6:19:08 AM PST by IbJensen (Merry Christmas to everyone, especially the ACLU)
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To: gusopol3

BULL! If there’s anything to it, it’s Plate Tectonics.


12 posted on 12/05/2009 6:20:48 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: gusopol3

“I think it’s going to vanish one of these days.”

Oh yes, it most certainly will...one of these days.
The Grand Canyon was once just a creek running along a plain.


13 posted on 12/05/2009 6:21:20 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (This is not a drill!)
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To: NEPA
All of those Global Warming stories have been queued up for months. The plan was to release several a day in the weeks just before Copenhagen. That would build a sense of immediacy so that the massive changes proposed at Copenhagen would be broadly accepted by the public.

But Global Warming is now known to be a fraud, so these long-queued stories are almost comical.

Beach Erosion is not the same thing as Global Warming -- though they want us to think so.

14 posted on 12/05/2009 6:21:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: gusopol3

He’s an idiot. The land isn’t going away. The sea is coming in.....


15 posted on 12/05/2009 6:24:09 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: gusopol3
I grew up near the Shell Island Resort, NC. I spent many a day by that inlet, fishing and playing. It has been changeable since the 60's that I remember. I've read something somewhere about building on shifting sands! Hatteras is just a little ways up the coast. This area is subject to constant change (without hope).


16 posted on 12/05/2009 6:29:31 AM PST by WVKayaker (www.wherezobama.org / Obama's Excellent Adventure ...)
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To: NEPA

This may be why the media were so acute to attribute “scare tactics” to Bush’s claim of WMD in Iraq, and subsequent concern every time “terrorism” is mentioned.They use them all the time and project their own methods onto everybody else.


17 posted on 12/05/2009 6:30:14 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

“Uhhhh....seems to me that periods of THAW would be when permafrost is prolific (*NOT* during freeze, unless permafrost is some sort of magic vegetation that only grows when frozen, LOL)”
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Hey Einstein, permafrost is NOT a plant. Permafrost is frozen ground!


18 posted on 12/05/2009 6:30:40 AM PST by awake-n-angry
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To: cripplecreek

They’ve had to move a lot of old lighthouses on the East Coast further inland because of erosion that has nothing to do with Global Warming. The Dutch and other sensible people don’t take erosion laying down, they build breakwaters and fight back. In this insane country the self styled environmentalists have demonized what everywhere and previously were known as simple civil engineering steps. We’d rather watch Cape Code cumble into the sea.


19 posted on 12/05/2009 6:30:45 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: gusopol3
We could use the advice of an expert in these matters. I hear the survival rate is 50%.


20 posted on 12/05/2009 6:31:24 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: WVKayaker

I remember when they rolled back the light house.


21 posted on 12/05/2009 6:31:45 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3
I've notice a bunch of these articles the past couple of weeks. It's likely there are going to be a lot more of these "the sky is falling due to eeevil global warming" as a lead up to the Copenhagan meeting.
22 posted on 12/05/2009 6:35:21 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: ClearCase_guy
*Donning tinfoil hats together*

:-)

23 posted on 12/05/2009 6:36:57 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: gusopol3

Gee, it couldnt possibly be that we had a cool summer this year.


24 posted on 12/05/2009 6:40:24 AM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: awake-n-angry; Vn_survivor_67-68
Ice Plant ~ a factory where they make ice, AND, something they plant along highways and steep lawns in California.

Probably not related to permafrost.

25 posted on 12/05/2009 6:41:41 AM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: gusopol3

As a game biologist for the Alaskan department of Fish and game, I lived on both Little Diomede Island and Shishmaref while working on walrus migrations and seal harvests. Shishmaref is one of the most lonely and barren little coastal communities. Barely elevated out of the sea the main village was located close to the water to facilitate their boating, hunting and fishing. At low tide the boats are stranded for hundreds of meters off the shoreline. The shore is open and exposed and was being rapidly eroded by storms for years. It doesn’t surprise me.


26 posted on 12/05/2009 6:43:37 AM PST by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: gusopol3
I remember Hurricane Hazel, in 1954, ·and lots more since!). Wrightsville Beach (NC) has had millions of yards of sand pumped from the Inland Waterway dredging, and the local sound, onto the beach for "re-nourishment". I hated dealing with the shells and crap then exposed. It took quite a while for the beach to purge the junk, but by then, it was rinse and repeat! They strung pipes from COE barges to the beach, making boat navigation nightmarish.

Your tax dollars at work!


27 posted on 12/05/2009 6:44:16 AM PST by WVKayaker (www.wherezobama.org / Obama's Excellent Adventure ...)
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To: gusopol3
on the tip of a bluff that's been melting

That looked like dirt to me and as far as I know, dirt doesn't melt........

I think its natural erosion similar to what causes cliff houses in California to fall into the ocean following bad storms.......

28 posted on 12/05/2009 6:47:26 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: gusopol3

http://www.co.saint-marys.md.us/recreate/museums/stclementsisland.asp

I live just up the Bay from this Island . In my youth it was much larger, when the first Catholic Mass in America was said there ,it was said that this Island was 400 acres. Now it is 40.

Another Island off it’s shore has been swallowed up, it wasnt Global Warming it was the natural tendecy of water to wash away the shore along the shoreline. My own property has the same problem, Thats what the rock and seawall are trying to defeat. Its called erosion. not Global Warming and it has been going on for thousands of years.


29 posted on 12/05/2009 6:51:50 AM PST by Venturer
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To: gusopol3

Sea levels have been rising at a constant 0.078 inches a year for the last 100 years with no significant change of rate during that 100 years.

This story is total BS.


30 posted on 12/05/2009 6:53:12 AM PST by DB
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To: gusopol3
"The land is going away," said Shelton Kokeok,

All we need to do, then, is to send money to the Great White Father and sacrifice a gaot.

31 posted on 12/05/2009 7:00:15 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: omega4179
Heres an idea, MOVE THE Village.
Heck - here's another idea - just move to California they'll take care of you and you can leave this lovely place behind:

"Its 600 residents endure temperatures that drop to minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter. Polar bear sightings are common. Water is scarce. There's no plumbing in most homes; ice is harvested from lakes in microwave-size blocks and melted in buckets. No roads connect Shishmaref to the outside world."

;-)

32 posted on 12/05/2009 7:01:22 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: gusopol3
The Castle Arrrrgh has been standing for over 550 years and hasn't had a problem with global warming yet. :-)


33 posted on 12/05/2009 7:10:42 AM PST by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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To: HIDEK6

Or maybe a goat.


34 posted on 12/05/2009 7:14:11 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: gusopol3

Is not this town on a barrier island?


35 posted on 12/05/2009 7:18:01 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: gusopol3

“...whose home is on the tip of a bluff that’s been melting in part because of climate change...”

Does land MELT??? Or is it because you’ve built on ICE?

Classic case of “doctor, it hurts when I do THIS... What should I do?”


36 posted on 12/05/2009 7:18:30 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: gusopol3

Is there an aerial view of Shelton Kokeok’s home? I wonder how much he was paid to make this claim - I seem to remember a similar story from several years ago.


37 posted on 12/05/2009 7:22:10 AM PST by yoe ( Fight organized crime: Re-elect no one...)
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To: PALIN SMITH
**Shelton Kokeok, 65, whose home is on the tip of a bluff that's been melting in part because of climate change. "I think it's going to vanish one of these days."**

Climate does change as nature works her wonders...so that is true...however it does not change the way the global warming nits would have you believe - even Governor Schwarzenegger is making a ridiculous claim....that news was part of a series on the history channel showing what would happen "IF" an earthquake caused a tsunami that would hit the SanFran shore......I shudder to think we elect and we pay these people.........

38 posted on 12/05/2009 7:31:56 AM PST by yoe ( Fight organized crime: Re-elect no one...)
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To: Venturer

Natural erosioin.


39 posted on 12/05/2009 7:49:01 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Tunehead54

Saw one of these “fine” citizens on Alaska Highhway Patrol, drunk as a hant and cussin everyone.

Betn they are all on the dole.


40 posted on 12/05/2009 8:00:02 AM PST by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: Tunehead54

Morris says the changes in Shishmaref — the melting sea ice, the disappearing seals and polar bears, the crumbling coastline — are beyond the village’s control

Polar bear sightings are common. HMMMMMMMMMM? Reads suspiciously like the have it both ways society. There’s another “little” issue in there as well, the supply of dried seal meat, by the house. How does that square with the disappearing seals Huh?


41 posted on 12/05/2009 8:00:11 AM PST by wita
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To: HIDEK6

“All we need to do, then, is to send money to the Great White Father and sacrifice a gaot.

That must have been in the pre Barak Hussein Obama era.

Probably better to send money and Larry Sinclair.


42 posted on 12/05/2009 8:34:36 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: muawiyah; awake-n-angry; Vn_survivor_67-68
Ice Plant:


Permafrost:


Frozen Tundra:



43 posted on 12/05/2009 9:14:23 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: gusopol3

Indeed the same thing happened in lake Michigan in 67&68 waves pummel the shore many homes lost or moved and it stopped,nothing new it’s called nature at work.


44 posted on 12/05/2009 9:56:01 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: wita
How does that square with the disappearing seals

Pretty well, when you think about it.

45 posted on 12/05/2009 10:27:13 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Doc Savage

And fon’t forget to add it is a ‘barrier island’ made of (gasp) sand.

The CoE ans already wasted millions of shore protection and other schemes.

And now, millins more to move the village.

Not near enough ghost towns in Alaska.


46 posted on 12/05/2009 10:34:56 AM PST by ASOC (To be content with little is hard, but to be content with much is impossible.)
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To: dusttoyou

No more than all the Bubbas taking the dole in Ta-has.


47 posted on 12/05/2009 10:38:07 AM PST by ASOC (To be content with little is hard, but to be content with much is impossible.)
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