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Do obese people deserve medical treatment? (smokers, drinkers, hang gliders, homosexuals)
Tucson Libertarian Examiner ^ | September 15, 2009 | Adam Maji

Posted on 12/05/2009 9:34:32 AM PST by Still Thinking

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To: VeniVidiVici
They’ll cover AIDS drugs but not anything obesity related.

Hey, fags are our future!


Oh wait .................

101 posted on 12/05/2009 10:23:42 PM PST by Eaker (Kaiden sez, "If you have a problem and If explosives are an option then explosives are THE answer.")
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To: Still Thinking

They cannot deprive the obese from healthcare.

ACORN will loose all it’s employees!


102 posted on 12/05/2009 10:32:01 PM PST by Eaker (Kaiden sez, "If you have a problem and If explosives are an option then explosives are THE answer.")
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To: Still Thinking

If they can afford it, I don’t see why not.


103 posted on 12/05/2009 10:35:34 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: cowtowney; Blue Collar Christian; GOP_Lady
It is true. My tax dollars are already used to pay for welfare and medical programs run by government bureaucracies. So now, my money is used to pay for the consequences of some one's irresponsible behavior along with those who are truly in need. Example, a woman who receives welfare who continues to get pregnant, do drugs, lives an unhealthy or destructive lifestyle, etc.

I am solidly against the original premise that I am responsible, ultimately, for paying for these programs to subsidize behaviors born from the lack of personal responsibility. Include in that, a government bureaucracy that completely restricts and controls peoples lifestyle choices. A government bureaucracy will decide how one lives....and ultimately who will live.

Getting back to the point of the article:

"The monstrosity of the welfare state is that the more virtuous and productive a person is, the more of his life and values he is forced to sacrifice, and the more unproductive and needy he is, the more he is rewarded for it. Like all forms of statism, medical socialism punishes virtue and rewards vice."

Because we already have this in one form or another, doesn't make it right. I don't understand why reasonable, freedom loving people don't get this. I say this, you should have the freedom to live in a manner that suits you as long as you are willing to pay the consequences on your own. Too bad common sense, wise choices and personal responsibility isn't used to govern people's lives.

Now it's increasingly the government and the use of my confiscated "values" to pay because it's "the fair thing to do." Horse feathers!

104 posted on 12/06/2009 12:41:40 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (The GOP faithful want me to believe I have only two voting options......"bad" and "worse")
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To: Jagdgewehr

I too, am disgusted that my tax dollars go to the treatment of lowlifes. I would rather keep those dollars and use them to help the particular lowlifes I come in contact with and then hold them accountable for what they do with that help. It takes more of my time, but I believe it is much more productive.

The Dems and like thinkers want to “help” these people with a payroll deduction and not invest any time in the community. Not only that, but they think it’s best to use your and my money to do their good deed.

They put our money where their mouth is, so to speak.

To turn the public trend of letting govt use our money to “help” the chronically dependent into true community action to better the lowlifes would require a REVIVAL! After the lowlifes refuse to take advantage of their last opportunity to turn their lives around, they then will have to resort to begging, and potentially die. I think this a better system than having bureaucrats decide that a motorcycle rider that broke his neck in a crash is not worth treating even though he paid into their insufficient system.

Getting rid of the current system that disgusts us is, IMHO, impossible. Stopping the advance of this crappy socialism is going to take one devil of a fight.


105 posted on 12/06/2009 5:06:50 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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“Getting rid of the current system that disgusts us is, IMHO, impossible.”

well, it’s going to be bankrupt soon, so we’ll see how that affects it


106 posted on 12/06/2009 5:08:35 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: mamelukesabre

Brilliant post. I am going to use this in my arguments with liberals.


107 posted on 12/06/2009 5:33:09 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: cowtowney

Sadly, you and I will be bankrupt along with the disgusting system.


108 posted on 12/06/2009 5:45:16 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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