Skip to comments.Cars, quo warranto, and Obama (Donofrio update)
Posted on 12/05/2009 10:43:07 AM PST by Danae
With so many lawsuits filed every day in America, one more might seem irrelevant. There is one however that should be watched, but will most likely escape notice. For a little while at any rate
Neil Cavuto welcomed former Chrysler dealer James Anderer to his show on Fox Business News Daily to talk about a case that has been filed by a group of dealers who lost their businesses in the Washington D.C. District Court. Lead Plaintiff Anderer mentioned a team of legal experts while describing the case to Cavuto, and an anonymous source has named Leo Donofrio and Steve Pidgeon as having been retained by a group of Chrysler dealers who lost their franchise in the Chrysler bankruptcy sale. They have been retained to bring two actions:
1. A motion to reconsider the Court's approval of the dealer rejections. 2. A quo warranto in the D.C. District Court pertaining to Obama and his administration.
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
What do we know about DC district court justices?
the D.C. District Court....hmmm, now that’s a bit of problem. I would put more faith in Miss Tickly and Leo’s Hawaii requests.
“Abstract (short form) BCs with a raised seal from all states except California and Texas are acceptable with the State Department as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for passport purposes.
Pretty sure if you can use it for a passport, you can play little league with it as well.”
I just sent my son his birth certificate — long form — to obtain a passport.
It may be because the short form did not have a raised seal. I have other short forms certificates of family members without a raised seal.
Went to find the requirements for a passport.
“*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth.
Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.”
Sorry didn't see you found the link before me. I like your scenario.
Yes. Those would be short forms from California and Texas which, for whatever reason, are not acceptable.
In many states if you lose your original BC and request a new one, a computer-generated "short form" certified with a raised seal is all you'll receive. It is in a format the looks just like the famous "Factcheck" BC. And you can use this BC to get a passport as I did.
“And you are the expert to challenge anything Danae says?”
I believe Obama is hiding something on his birth certificate, otherwise he would not be spending millions of dollars on legal fees to keep it hidden.
I am a Free Republic poster with the right to post my opinions. I am allowed to disagree with Danae. That’s what makes this site great.
Look at post # 26 in the link I just sent you.....
It’s a genuine computer generated document from a few years agon if genuine at all. It proves nothing about where he was born.
That’s not what he had on his blog when it was up. Nor is it what he has said in radio interviews.
What do they quote that could not have been taken from a COLB?
If they had been serious they would have used the words **original long form birth certificate**!!!! ( note singular)
Fukino did not! She instead referred to “vital records” ( note the plural. These could be anything at all. They could even have been amended records submitted by Obama himself!
PULEEZ! This is getting old. You really should know better.
But...I DO agree with you about his father. Nothing would please me more than to have the Supreme Court make a decision on this.
“The Obots here on FR will be tied and twisted in knots trying to debunk and explain this one away saying that these car dealers have no standing and that they were not Injured in any way by Obamas under handed actions...”
Yep. Actually, I think this case is very important. Was waiting for the dealers to file it. Heard about it a few weeks ago.
Well, there’s the “blogging and twittering” judge who attacked John Hemenway and then had to back off. Perhaps Leo should contact John Hemenway.
Leo’s been quiet of late in the blogosphere, but he’s long talked of this being the big one. I hope he’s right. Best wishes to Leo and the Constitution.
I have to be honest, I am putting more weight on this. The D.C. District court and the Dealers issues is one which already has standing on appeals. Its the perfect vehicle. The Hawaii DoH might well get called into the fray by Obama, because he will have to prove his Citizenship status. He will need to produce all his records for that, and it will be something that he won’t be able to squirm out of.
He did post it on his blog. They have documents that date from within days of Obama’s birth.
Its still not relevant, the fact his father is British Kenyan IS.
I have been wrong in the past and will be I am sure, in the future, I just try not to keep repeating them, and I can’t learn from em unless I admit to em.
Yes but the fact that they have documents they later backtracked on he reported. In addition the fact that they have documents tells you nothing about what they are, what they say or what they prove, if anything. Given the terrotorial laws and regulations in effect at the time, the fact that there may be documents tells us nothing.
I learned a lot from that exchange.
Now it'll be interesting to see if Holder brings the quo warranto, or because of the conflict of interest appoints a special prosecutor.
Leo is da man!
When was James Anderer on Cavuto’s Fox show talking about this ?
Its not even lukewarm.
It's a forgery.
Did you read this?
I highly doubt that.
In the last 24 hours I was told.
The fact that they have anything tells us a lot. It means that most likely his COLB is real, though he may still have been born off Hawaii. It doesn’t matter. We have Obama by the short hairs with the British Dad. THAT is what matters.
Me too. Mostly that I am an idiot LOL
More will be revealed I am sure... :) Its bigger than you think. Standing is no longer an issue, and a vehicle with Appeals status has been found.
He has to be quiet or so he said some time ago. He posted that at his site I think a couple months ago.
I support your tight to disagree with me too. And I don’t take offense either. It’s about finding the truth. I think Obama has spent millions to keep people looking at what it appears he is hiding. I think it is a deliberate distraction just like a Magician would use. While you are looking at the moving hand, you don’t see what the other is doing... in this case, that other hand is the fact his dad wasn’t a citizen and Obama was born British Kenyan and American and therefore never was a Natural Born citizen. I can prove that as well. Its happened before. I am working on that story now. I can’t post it yet. I am working on getting it published.
The territorial laws in effect in 1961 were extremely loose as to how a birth document could be applied for. The birth documentation may be very relevant. You don’t know until they are seen how relevant they may be. As far as his father not being a U.S. citizen, so far in only one case has a plaintiff been found to have standing, and it was dimissed on other grounds going to the merits of the case as presented for failure to state a claim. It deserves watching.
God no, you are not! It is funny in retrospect. LOL
See ya’ on another thread.
“Neil Cavuto welcomed former Chrysler dealer James Anderer to his show on Fox Business News Daily “
“In the last 24 hours I was told.”
I take it from your answer you did not watch the video ?
If you find some recent video from Anderer , let me know, the most recent one I found was from Aug.
Having talked to Steve & Leo in the past, I would be surprised if those two teamed up on a case.
This all leads to the question of how can Obama be an Article II natural born Citizen if he was at birth both a U.S. citizen (assuming he was born in the U.S.) and a British citizen which alone disqualifies him from having that status? But to make matters worse, Obama continues to be a British citizen at a time that he is currently the President of the United States. Can we reasonably conclude that the Founding Fathers, who had just fought a war with Great Britain and who did not want a foreigner to occupy the Office of President, would have allowed a British citizen born after 1789, who carries that status not only from birth but also to the time he occupies the Office, to be President of the United States and Commander in Chief of its Military? Another question is how can a would-be President and Commander in Chief of the Military with current dual citizenship obtain a security clearance which he should have to access classified U.S. government information needed by him to carry out the sensitive functions of that Office?
Hawaii DoH replied to Leo Donofrio that he was denied access to documents dating on or about Aug, 1961, which statutorily admits that they do have them. Otherwise they would have replied, the documents do not exist.
First did Barry not write to the hospital telling them that he was born there?
Second were there not some questions that the records had been altered??
Apuzzo explains very clearly that the illegal alien and usurper at present is still a British subject according to the BNA!
Also in the 60, 70 & 80thies???
Didn’t you have a “fling” with Polarik about this???
That's not quite right. British law could have it that he was not a British national at birth, and he still would not be a natural born citizen, because he did not have citizen parents, plural.
I think that was the defense Bob Bauer, now replacing Greg as the W.H. attorney???
While that may be true, one need only be a citizen to play (in most) little leagues, or to get a passport. Natural born citizen is more than just citizen, and the short form may or may not provide sufficient information to prove that. Add to the fact that Hawaiian ones at leas are easily forged, and you really need to see the original long form certificate, which also had more information, such as parent's birthplaces , to be sure of natural born status.
On another thread Buckhead has already pinged the lemmings and believe it or not, he is exiting about Leo Donofrio, hmmmm!!!
I meant Buckeye!!!
An interesting 12/02/09 FR post by syc1959 titled “Prove it to yourself the Obama BC is forged So easy ANYONE can do it” is linked below.
I find it hard to believe that the supreme court will continue to punt this down the road. I guess they think it may cause civil war, which is exactly why they should have taken it up before the election. This P.C. crap is going to get us killed or living under tyranny...