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To: Seizethecarp

I believe that retroactive citizenship would be more than just a long shot. It is a circumstance of Birth. Wong Kim Ark was quite clearly decided to be a citizen, but NOT a natural Born Citizen and the decision makes that very clear distinction.

If anything, Wong Kim Ark makes the distinction between citizen and Natural Born citizen very clear.

Read this article carefully, it is dated from 1884, during the term of another unconstitutional President,Chester Arthur.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19071886/Are-Persons-Born-Within-the-United-States-Ipso-Facto-Citizens-Thereof-George-D-Collins

It is very clear, Citizens born in the country, of a father who is an alien, are NOT natural Born citizens.


164 posted on 12/08/2009 2:02:54 PM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae
“It is very clear, Citizens born in the country, of a father who is an alien, are NOT natural Born citizens.”

You and I agree with that, and we probably agreed with 2nd Amendment gun rights before Heller.

But as with Heller, until SCOTUS agrees with us, we just have a nonenforceable opinion. So far even Heller is only law in the circuits that have adopted it as Heller has not yet been “incorporated” as applicable to all states by SCOTUS.

Heller actually gives me hope that the Supremes can step up and resolve a 200+ year-old dispute. If D’Onofrio’s quo warranto discovery reaches SCOTUS and Obama doesn't duck out by claiming that his mother was a legally single US citizen due to a bigamous marriage to his father, maybe we will finally have a ruling on whether a natural born citizen can be a dual citizen at birth.

165 posted on 12/08/2009 2:42:36 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Danae; BP2

Great thread....Dad has said from the git go that it was to be the right case, defendents, plaintiffs (standing) before the SCOTUS will rule....(Otherwise they will table the case waiting for the ‘perfect’ case.)

Have been showing the material to HHH, he says this may be the one. Do we have any of the legal papers so I can have him look through them?

Remember: One card out of place causes the entire house of cards to fall....Ask Tiger or Made=off, they know.


190 posted on 12/22/2009 6:12:08 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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