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Graham says Obama has his back on climate bill (Kerry has "definite Republican votes") (barf!)
theenergycollective.com ^ | 2009-12-04

Posted on 12/05/2009 2:37:50 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Sen. Lindsey Graham may be under fire from conservatives back home in South Carolina. But the Republican got a personal assurance from President Obama yesterday that the White House is supporting his efforts to craft a sweeping Senate energy and global warming bill.

The president told me personally he was very open, that nuclear power would be part of the mix, that clean coal would be part of the mix, that he’s for offshore drilling in a responsible way,” Graham said today in describing his Oval Office meeting with Obama. “But we have to have a price on carbon, an emissions standard that’s real, that’s good for the environment and good for business. And I was very pleased.

Graham’s ties to the White House are pivotal for sponsors of an energy and climate bill as they search for more Republicans willing to work on a key feature of their domestic and international agenda. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) yesterday said he has “definite Republican votes” for the bill, though he would not name names or give exact numbers.

So E&E News PM (subs. req’d) reported last night. Again, those who think there is not going to be a bipartisan climate bill in the spring are not paying attention.

And it is going to be an economy-wide bill as Sen. Lieberman (I-CT) explains later in the piece:

Graham described Obama’s message after a Capitol Hill briefing that included 10 other senators and members of the U.S. Climate Action Partnership, a business and environmental lobbying group. Republicans Susan Collins of Maine and Judd Gregg of New Hampshire briefly stopped for the meeting that entailed leading corporate CEOs urging lawmakers to pass a sweeping bill to give them certainty about future environmental regulations.

“This country is in desperate need of a comprehensive energy and climate strategy,” Marvin Odum, president of Shell Oil Co., told reporters after the meeting. “And if we get that done, we can do this in a way that can increase American jobs, will increase our energy security, will improve our balance of trade, and will protect our environment.”

Graham said whether Obama can win more Senate Republicans depends on industry. “I think the message needs to come more from business people,” he said. “We need to get the business community more on board for acting now and more vocal about the consequences of inaction.”

Kerry, Graham and Lieberman are meeting tomorrow to discuss whether to produce an outline of their proposal during the two-week U.N. climate negotiations that start Monday in Copenhagen. But the three senators do not plan to release a full piece of legislation until early next year once they have won over additional co-sponsors.

When they do release their proposal, Lieberman insisted it would not venture into some of the alternative ideas that have recently gained traction on Capitol Hill, including a carbon tax or sector-specific limits only on power plants. “Personally, I don’t think there’s any chance of a carbon tax being this legislation,” Lieberman said.

Staff to Republican Sens. Richard Lugar of Indiana and George Voinovich of Ohio are researching the idea of greenhouse gas limits only for power plants, perhaps combined with other energy and environmental measures such as efficiency standards for buildings and stronger corporate average fuel economy standards for transportation.

But Lieberman said he remains focused on an economywide approach that covers major energy, transportation and manufacturing companies. “We are not” looking at the sector-specific approach, Lieberman said. “And I hope we don’t get to that because the most sensible way to start this is economywide.”

Precisely.


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This sort of perfidy on Graham's part is exactly why his mentor, the arch-RINO McCain, must not be re-elected in 2010.
1 posted on 12/05/2009 2:37:52 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

I just don’t know what to say.....


2 posted on 12/05/2009 2:38:49 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: rabscuttle385

And the beat goes on..................


3 posted on 12/05/2009 2:39:53 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: KoRn

I hope Senator Graham enjoys his final years as a senator.


4 posted on 12/05/2009 2:40:17 PM PST by liberlog
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To: rabscuttle385

Is it possible, remotely possible, that voters are going to wake up in a back way in 2010 and see that these stinking RINOs are nothing but ObamaButtBoys?


5 posted on 12/05/2009 2:40:25 PM PST by samtheman
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To: rabscuttle385
Someone needs to have a very CLOSE look whom is giving this creep money.
6 posted on 12/05/2009 2:40:51 PM PST by DAC21
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To: rabscuttle385

Another Specter in the making! Watch him switch parties as soon as he realizes he can’t win his GOP Senate primary.


7 posted on 12/05/2009 2:41:30 PM PST by rfp1234 (R.I.P. Scotty 7/2007-11/2009.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wonder what BO has promised Lindsey in order to get him to sell out America. The GOP needs to boot Graham and do it now. He’s hurting our country.


8 posted on 12/05/2009 2:42:04 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that hopey changey "diversity" thing workin' out for ya?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Don’t these idiots understand we don’t want either bill? It’s not enough to vote them out of office Take their pensions and health care and goodies and bar them from having to do with government ever again.


9 posted on 12/05/2009 2:42:15 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: rabscuttle385

We need to do some digging and find out just how much these idiots have invested in the carbon credit trading scam. That and how much taxpayer money they’ve invested in it.


10 posted on 12/05/2009 2:42:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m not sure which expression is more appropropriate; you judge.

“He lies!”

“It’s a cookbook!”


11 posted on 12/05/2009 2:43:36 PM PST by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is just a political calculation on Graham’s part.

He thinks if he goes along with it, he’ll get some pork for nuclear research (think Oak Ridge National Labs).

He’s just like Robert Byrd in that respect, except instead of bridges and government buildings with his name on it, he’ll get a big government nuclear research project with his name on it.


12 posted on 12/05/2009 2:45:35 PM PST by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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To: DAC21

George Soros has donated money to both Senators, Lindsey Graham and John McCain.


13 posted on 12/05/2009 2:47:06 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Gramnesty is a total MORON!!! He's apparently spent too much time with Democrats BEHIND him. Perhaps he'll someday figure out what they were doing while back there. Might help to explain the rectal bleeding!
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Hey, all you incredibly dumb and uninformed Americans, I’m Lindsey Graham. I’m a really, really, REALLY smart lawyer from South Carolina.

Because I am from South Carolina, some of you uninformed BIGOTS might call me a “cracker.”

Actually, that suits me just fine because that would make me a Graham Cracker. So if you don’t like my position (often bent over Algore’s or Harry Reid’s desk) on globull warming, immigration or those OTHER unimportant issues you can

BITE ME!


14 posted on 12/05/2009 2:49:24 PM PST by Dick Bachert (THE 2010 ELECTIONS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN OUR LIFETIMES! BE THERE!!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Wonder why anyone would listen to anything BHO says since you cannot believe anything that comes out of his mouth.


15 posted on 12/05/2009 2:51:34 PM PST by Ryman (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/babythomas2)
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To: rabscuttle385; xcamel

NOoooooooooo!!!!!!!

They want to save a bill built conceived by lies and extortion.
Global Climate Fraud must be dismantled in it’s entireity!!!!


16 posted on 12/05/2009 2:51:59 PM PST by thouworm
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To: rabscuttle385

I always have a hard time listening to Graham; I think having McCain’s pubes stuck between his teeth makes him mumble.


17 posted on 12/05/2009 2:52:05 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Whew!!! Never thought I would see the day when Grahamnesty actually bent over and grabbed his ankles; but there it is for all the world to see!! What is up with the good folks in South Carolina.......”the buckle on the Bible belt”?!!


18 posted on 12/05/2009 2:54:25 PM PST by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: Tucker39

Should we start a fund for Vaseline for Graham (just to make it easier for him)?


19 posted on 12/05/2009 2:55:42 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: rabscuttle385

Mini-MeCain has learned well from his mentor.


20 posted on 12/05/2009 2:56:48 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That’s the problem: When did or has the GOP ever had the balls to boot anyone in their ranks?


21 posted on 12/05/2009 2:57:02 PM PST by cranked
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To: rabscuttle385

Graham is an idiot.


22 posted on 12/05/2009 2:57:53 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! God save this great Republic!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Lindsey Graham, you’re not John Galt.


23 posted on 12/05/2009 3:01:29 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: rabscuttle385
Graham sees using the cap-and-trade bill as a vehicle to finally formulate a national energy policy that’s primarily designed to reduce American reliance on imported oil.

This story of strange bedfellows is more complicated that simple horse-trading.

It turns out that Graham thinks the planet is in peril due to global warming. As a Washington Post feature points out, Graham thinks it’s high time for the Republicans to stop pretending global warming is a hoax and admit that climate change is a real problem.

QUOTE from WaPo Link in article:

"Our goal is to create a vision that not only will help this planet — which I think is in peril — but will create millions of new jobs for Americans who need them, and help us become energy independent to make us safer," Graham told a crowded Capitol Hill news conference Wednesday.

Greener Working

24 posted on 12/05/2009 3:06:59 PM PST by thouworm
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To: rabscuttle385
What green companies has Graham invested in that he would be so obtuse as to continue as if the entire global warming issue hasn't been discredited?

Anyone who takes the lead on this bill, after what has been learned over the past week or two, must be suspect.

25 posted on 12/05/2009 3:10:56 PM PST by skeeter
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To: rabscuttle385

Typical RINO ho ...

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00009975&cycle=2010

Top 5 Contributors, 2005-2010, Campaign Cmte
Contributor Total Indivs PACs
Nelson, Mullins et al $79,491 $70,491 $9,000
Scana Corp $57,630 $51,130 $6,500
EnergySolutions LLC $35,800 $35,800 $0
Edens & Avant $31,900 $31,900 $0
Blue Cross/Blue Shield $31,450 $24,950 $6,500

http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2009/10/15/15climatewire-carper-suggests-bolstering-nrc-as-part-of-cl-83161.html

(snip)

Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.) is helping to negotiate a nuclear energy amendment that could help bring aboard swing votes who support the industry. Architects and backers of the nuclear effort include Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who are seeking more federal financial backing and other support.

(snip)

Nuclear Energy Institute spokesman John Keeley said the industry’s priorities include greater funding for loan guarantees. Congress has set aside $18.5 billion thus far for nuclear plant loan guarantees under a DOE financing program first authorized in the 2005 Energy Policy Act. But this would cover only a small number of new plants.

Four proposals remain in the running for DOE guarantees from this funding, according to several published reports. They are: UniStar Nuclear Energy/Constellation Energy Group’s proposed Calvert Cliffs plant in Maryland; NRG Energy Inc.’s South Texas Project; Southern Co.’s Vogtle plant in Georgia; and Scana Corp.’s Summer plant in South Carolina.


http://cbs11tv.com/national/Eric.Holder.attorney.2.919893.html

Jan 28, 2009
Senate Panel Approves Holder Nomination For AG

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he supports Holder’s view that the country needs to interrogate terrorism suspects based on American values.

“I am confident this new attorney general will have a balanced approach and I look forward to working with him. I know he’s made mistakes and so have I,” Graham said.

//

http://www.thestate.com/local/story/871483.html

Tuesday, Jul. 21, 2009
USC to get new business building
Funds will come from leasing current building to Department of Justice

An estimated 250 Justice Department employees working in different locations near Washington, D.C., will be relocated to Columbia over an unspecified period.

Graham said U.S. taxpayers will save $42 million by having Justice Department employees working in South Carolina, which has lower costs than Washington.

“It was almost too good to be true,” Graham said of the plan. “But it proved to be true.”

Graham, a Republican, praised U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Deputy Attorney General David Ogden, both of whom were appointed by President Obama, a Democrat.

“I can’t thank Eric Holder and David Ogden enough,” Graham said, adding they offered their support for a leasing plan that was initiated during the administration of George W. Bush.


26 posted on 12/05/2009 3:11:50 PM PST by maggief
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To: Jim Robinson
FR mentioned here
27 posted on 12/05/2009 3:12:03 PM PST by onyx
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To: DAC21

The sponsors of the ads in South Carolina lead to Center for American Progress which is, of course, Soros and the other billionaire progressives.


28 posted on 12/05/2009 3:12:25 PM PST by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: rabscuttle385
here's the KOS' take. Note that FR is mentioned, along with the democrat "push back."
29 posted on 12/05/2009 3:15:45 PM PST by onyx
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To: rabscuttle385

I had been wondering in the last few days if the East Anglia CRU scandal had given this guy an opportunity to back away from his uninformed position. I see he was too stupid to take advantage of this opportunity.


30 posted on 12/05/2009 3:18:40 PM PST by JLS
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To: rabscuttle385
Those who wonder why senators, governors etc are supporting this obvious farce need to do some digging.

From January 08

Arnold Schwarzenegger and Yvo de Boer to lead a list of prominent speakers at the CARBON FORUM AMERICA 2008 CONFERENCE and TRADE FAIR

Over 100 speakers will be featured during the 2 day Conference. They will include Senior Management from PG&E, Clifford Chance, EcoSecurities, Chevron, JP Morgan, Natsource and the World Bank. The majority of companies speaking during the workshop sessions will also be represented with exhibits on the trade show floor adjacent the Conference rooms at the Moscone Center. Conference delegates will consist of Bankers, Law Firms, Verifiers, Industrials, Investment Promotion Agencies, Technology Providers, Policy Makers as well as Students and Faculty.

Who's who

Californians, if you've wondered why your gov has gotten desperate to promote the global warming fraud my suggestion is that you do some digging and find out how much of your tax dollars have been invested in carbon trading scams.
31 posted on 12/05/2009 3:23:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: JLS

Personally I doubt he can back away. I suspect that he’s heavily invested in the carbon trading scam.


32 posted on 12/05/2009 3:25:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The fact we had better understand is that the GOP has been infiltrated to some extent as the Democrats have. Conservatism and progressivism are movements. We need to take over the GOP in the same manner the left took over the democratic party.


33 posted on 12/05/2009 3:25:35 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: rabscuttle385

This guy has been bribed. Otherwise, he would not be spitting in the eye of his constituency.


34 posted on 12/05/2009 3:27:41 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: maggief

nice find; that greases things up a bit;

pressure needs to be put on him to admit the AGW fraud (which he says he believes in as of Nov 11th [see post #24]-—before the emails were leaked).


35 posted on 12/05/2009 3:30:18 PM PST by thouworm
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To: rabscuttle385

36 posted on 12/05/2009 3:33:12 PM PST by 50mm (AARP is a steaming pile)
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To: rabscuttle385; FrPR; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Delacon; Thunder90; Entrepreneur; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

37 posted on 12/05/2009 3:38:02 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: rabscuttle385

It doesn’t suprirse me that Miss Lindsey had a cozy meeting with Ubama in the Oval Office.
I bet they share certain... interests.

Ooh boy... time to change the carpets again in 2013.


38 posted on 12/05/2009 3:38:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: thouworm

Clearly this scumbag Graham didn’t get the memo.
Hey, Miss Lindsey! “Global warming” has been exposed as a FRAUD!


39 posted on 12/05/2009 3:41:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: cripplecreek
We need to do some digging and find out just how much these idiots have invested in the carbon credit trading scam. That and how much taxpayer money they’ve invested in it.

BINGO

40 posted on 12/05/2009 3:45:10 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: 50mm

LOL ((((SHUDDER)))


41 posted on 12/05/2009 3:47:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’d recommend a blanket party been thrown for this POS but no one would back me for suggesting one...The wording just ain’t right here...maybe a Code Red??


42 posted on 12/05/2009 3:48:24 PM PST by IrishPennant (If you can accept losing, you can't win. ~ Vince Lombardi)
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To: rabscuttle385

We can’t let the MSM win this.

Best ClimateGate clips (show everybody you know):

http://www.BraveNewCommie.com


43 posted on 12/05/2009 3:50:47 PM PST by Islam=Murder (Hitler hated his Jewish side; Omoslem hates his white side.)
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To: rabscuttle385

And timber business interests also put a lot of stock in Clinton’s plan to set up a timber plan that would allow for actual logging...and it worked...until the the ecofreaks filed a lawsuit the first time a tree was threatened.


44 posted on 12/05/2009 3:59:45 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: Lancey Howard

His pork nose ought to be rubbed in the phony climate data til he bleeds and oinks to be released.

RINO is bad enough; now he has just admitted he is corrupt.


45 posted on 12/05/2009 4:20:53 PM PST by thouworm
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To: rabscuttle385; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; Clintonfatigued; ...
Graham:
“The president told me personally he was very open, that nuclear power would be part of the mix, that clean coal would be part of the mix, that he’s for offshore drilling in a responsible way,” Graham said today in describing his Oval Office meeting with Obama. “But we have to have a price on carbon, an emissions standard that’s real, that’s good for the environment and good for business. And I was very pleased.”

Hey Doofus: Between your incredible naivete and your worshipful attitude towards "The One," you just made a fatal mistake. You listened to -12nobama's words instead of watching what he does. -12nobama is interested in one thing and one thing only: turning America into a Marxist state. What part of that cannot you understand? Are you completely rejecting the Climategate situation?

Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."


Want on or off this ping list?
Just FReepmail me.


46 posted on 12/05/2009 4:26:15 PM PST by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: rabscuttle385
These dipsh_ts have the country in debt by tens of trillions of dollars and now they are going to "fix" the climate.

Heavens to murgatroid.

47 posted on 12/05/2009 4:26:31 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: cripplecreek; All

Makes me wonder if the Democrats have pictures of Graham

passing out Sprigley’s Rearmint Gum to underage boys.


48 posted on 12/05/2009 4:32:56 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: hal ogen

I’m sure he has a big supply of his own.


49 posted on 12/05/2009 4:45:50 PM PST by mimaw
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To: rabscuttle385

Can a few more counties in SC please censure this RINO liberal bastard Lindsey Graham? He is a laughingstock.


50 posted on 12/05/2009 5:01:23 PM PST by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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