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To: Ben Ficklin

The real comparison is not sending the troops, but handcuffing them when they get there. There have already been instances where troops under ambush were denied artillery support because of new ROE that are make avoiding civilian casualties the top priority over our troops lives. And like Vietnam, the enemy has a border they can flee accross for sanctuary when things get too hot.

Most absurd, how are military intelligence supposed to get info when prisoners must be read Miranda rights and provided a lawyer, and our guys will be court marshalled if they punch one in the mouth during capture?

IMHO, Obama wants to lose.


6 posted on 12/06/2009 12:25:43 PM PST by Hugin (Sarah Palin: accept no substitutes!)
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To: Hugin
IMHO, Obama wants to lose.

Everything 0bama has done has:

A. weakened America
B. strengthened islam
C. attacked Israel

...or some combination of the above.

8 posted on 12/06/2009 12:31:37 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 319 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Hugin

You have it. The mission is everything.


10 posted on 12/06/2009 12:50:41 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Hugin
"handcuffing them when they get there"

I guess you mean the rules of engagement?

Those are the rules of engagement for COIN. If you want to follow the Petraeus/McCrystal COIN mission, those are the rules of engagement that you have to accept.

Otherwise, you need to follow Biden's counter-terrorism mission, which has a different set of ROE.

11 posted on 12/06/2009 1:09:17 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Hugin

“There have already been instances where troops under ambush were denied artillery support because of new ROE” Was it ROE or the tactics, techniques and procedures that put those Troops in such a positions of vulnerability being left tactically exposed without support?


13 posted on 12/06/2009 1:56:00 PM PST by anglian
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